September 2012 - OE - lists.wedgeblade.net

the new ICA
by Terry Bergdall 08 Oct '12

08 Oct '12

The subject line, "the old Order passing away," has been grabbing my attention for several days now as I open my email. While that is certainly a statement of fact in regard to our EI/OE/ICA community, it is far from being the whole story. During the past academic year, September-May 2012, ICA-USA had 200+ university students engaged in preparation field work for the city-wide share fair, "Accelerate 77." Then, for ten weeks during the summer, we were rocked daily with 40 interns passionately "bending history" as they completed the work. Their presence has been living proof of our 50th Anniversary slogan, "Midway in a Century of Care." The following link will give you a glimpse at what I'm talking about. You'll see Seva Gandhi, a full-time staff person of ICA-USA and a current member of the ICA-International Board of Directors, and Dylan Amlin, one of the summer interns, being interviewed about the "Sharing Approaches That Work" event on September 15: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNtJle4YfH0&feature=bf_prev&list=UUdS0glKdGe… All is good, all is received, that past is approved, the future is open. Take care, Terry

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An Amazing Two Days at ICA Chicago-Telling Our Story & The Global Archives
by Herman Greene 04 Oct '12

04 Oct '12

I spent what for me were an amazing two days in Chicago last Thursday and Friday. I went because Jack and Judy Gilles were working on the Global Archives and were going to leave this morning, September 30. It was the only time I could get to see them. I am finding a yearning to tell our story and bring some of it forward. More particularly I miss working with people who were formed out of the same fire as I was. I work with activists, truly "Those Who Care," but something is missing for me. It's primarily an interior aspect-that "die on the march" aspect, that "live the mystery" aspect, that "the past is approved and the future is open (to be created)" aspect, that "we can get anything down that is necessary" aspect, that "we can drop everything and focus . . . and sacrifice" aspect," that "we can leave all our possessions behind" if need be aspect. One could argue that the Marines also create this kind of interior steel and discipline, but it is different. (Actually the Marines might excel in honor of country and even willingness to die, but it is still different.) I have only experienced this in the Order. I know this has made me much of what I am and I have a yearning to pass it on to others, especially as I realize my own age, 67, and see so many colleagues passing away. So while a part of me thinks its silly for grownups to be filing all the town meeting 76 event folders (and all the work that goes into that), another part of me also claws back to recover that past . . . for the future. What we were as the Order has passed away (I mean in terms of being able to re-create it as it was again), and all of those magnificent moments and events we created have passed away. Yet there is an echo in the hallway that will not stop. I will go into this more later, but what past it is that I want to pass on is difficult to grasp. Is it the Order, RSI, EI, ICA, EI and ICA, all before Joe died (or in my case before 1975 when I left the Order), all up to today including the recent history of ICA? I have some ideas, but they are not important for this email. All that's important now is that I was drawn back to Chicago to discuss, primarily with Jack, how the spirit transformation part of who we were then (and inside are now) can be transmitted to the future as we who experienced this grow older and older and pass away. The "we" I am talking about is those of us who carry a memory back of 50-55 years (other may have a different time span) when it seems to me the really creative breakthroughs occurred. I'm at the younger end of those who experienced that as adults (I was 21 when I joined the Order in 1967). Now some may have joined in 1972 or later and still have "gotten it," but what I am talking about is something that was gotten or it was not, back then. So we are a dying cohort and the question has arisen for me whether there is something we still need to do together? My answer is I think that if there is something that we still need to do together it is to transmit that legacy as a living legacy for present and future generations. Part of this is transmitting facts, part the interior narrative, but most of all it is transmitting the timeless spiritual reality we came to know and which has shaped our lives but this is not easy because it is not a simple thing. It's much more than just coming out of an RS-1, or any other short even, inspired I had many important moments of understanding this past week in Chicago and felt tremendous gratitude for what Marge Philbrook and colleagues have done on the archives, and for the work Jack has done in thinking through how this can be a living legacy. I In brief Jack and those who workshopped with him, realized that its not just a matter of preserving the past by putting facts in file cabinets and waiting for someone to want it, but it is giving people a way of understanding what's in the collection (Jack uses the term "curation" like a museum curator) and applying that material to the cutting edge issues of our time. What I especially appreciated though was the attached chart in three formats, because it gave me a way to grasp the entirety of what it is that we were/are/may need in some fashion to pass on. In a certain sense the attached chart overwhelms me because I thought there were a few key things like "contextual ethics" and the RS-1 dynamic and a few other things that might "really need to be" passed on . . . just a few key things. But now I see it was "all of it"-a giant spiritual event and happening that unfolded over many years and took many forms all of which were a single event. To recreate this would require thousands of people in summer assemblies and a new order and that is not going to happen. Yet I think there is something we can do and need to do and which no one else can do. So, in conclusion, I believe there is something we still need to do together and that is to pass on a living legacy. By distinguishing legacy from living legacy I meant this: "Legacy" is preserving the past for its own sake. "Living legacy" is recovering the past so that it might continue to transform the future. The attached Accessions chart is just a beginning. I know that Jack would like to receive your suggestions. More soon, Herman _____________________________________________ Herman Greene 2516 Winningham Drive Chapel Hill, NC 27516 919-929-4116 (h) 919-624-0579 (c) 919-942-4358 (f) Skype: hgreene-nc hfgreene(a)mindspring.com

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Re: [Oe List ...] OE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 29
by David Flowers 03 Oct '12

03 Oct '12

Randy refers to Walter Brueggemann, an Old Testament scholar, with regard to scarcity and abundance - here's a link to a video of him speaking on exactly that topic as the bottom line narrative of the Bible. http://www.marquette.edu/cps/BuildingaBetterMilwaukeeBrueggemann.shtml On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 12:27 PM, <oe-request(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: > Send OE mailing list submissions to > oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > oe-request(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > oe-owner(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of OE digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: My report on Rio+20 (Charles Hahn) > 2. The Three Moods in Christian Worship (R Williams) > 3. [Dialogue] The Three Moods in Christian Worship (George Holcombe) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 20:08:44 -0500 > From: Charles Hahn <cfhahn30(a)gmail.com> > To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] My report on Rio+20 > Message-ID: > <CACA= > 4B7gLM6Oybr+omB3TJWdG_8OKUgPjFfraFMHmct7J8HnXg(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Herman, I have been out of town, and just now reading your Rio+20 piece. > It is such a hopeful piece. Much work to do, but hope filled. Thanks so > much. > Charles Hahn > > On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Herman Greene <hfgreene(a)mindspring.com > >wrote: > > > ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** > > > > Here?s the report I wrote on **Rio**+20:**** > > > > ** ** > > > > ** ** > > > > *NOTES FROM RIO+20: WHY IT DIDN?T FAIL* > > > > *By Herman F. Greene* > > > > I was in Rio from June 13-22 for the UN Conference on Sustainable > > Development (**Rio**+20) and events preceding it. The prevailing > > sentiment is that **Rio**+20 was a failure. Scott Simon of NPR described > > it as the biggest UN conference ever and perhaps one of its biggest duds. > > *The New York Times *quoted a representative of CARE as saying it was > > ?nothing more than a political charade,? and a representative of > Greenpeace > > as declaring it ?a failure of epic proportions.? When the official > outcome > > document from **Rio**+20, titled ?The Future We Want,? is not rejected > > outright, tepid assessments are generally given such as ?it partially > > salvaged prior commitments, but offered little new.?**** > > > > ** ** > > > > Evaluating **Rio**+20 as a failure has consequences. For some, the > > ?failure? of **Rio**+20 underscores the weakness or the UN processes as a > > whole. Because blame for the alleged failure has largely been placed on > > ?governments,? the faith of some in the ability of governmental and > > intergovernmental organizations to address major problems has fallen. In > > the ****United States****, where the event was seldom reported, summary > > reports of failure may lead some to say, ?I didn?t know about it and it > > wasn?t important anyway.?**** > > > > ** ** > > > > My view of the conference is, however, different. I had to educate myself > > to understand the UN sustainable development process, of which **Rio**+20 > > is only the latest chapter in a 40-year long and continuing history. I > > began to engage directly in this process in October 2011 in order to > > promote formation of an International Ethics Panel on Ecological > > Civilization (IEPEC), a panel first proposed by Professor **Ryoichi > > Yamamoto** at a September 2011 conference in ****Tokyo****. Returning > > from that conference, I learned Rio+20 was the place to take this idea as > > many NGOs and some governments were emphasizing the need for new ethical > > structures in UN governance in connection with one of Rio+20?s two major > > themes, ?Institutional Framework for Sustainable Development.?**** > > > > ** ** > > > > In the course of attending three preparatory events in **New York** and > > the final **Rio**+20 conference, I have learned the UN?s sustainable > > development process is not primarily about the environment. It is about > how > > the peoples of the world, as a whole, can improve their lives and the > forms > > of development that are most appropriate for achieving this. Environment > > comes in because it must: after all Earth is the living planet and > resource > > base on which humans depend both physically and culturally. Economics > > enters because our current understanding of social development is > dominated > > by it and by certain established conventions, such as GDP, > neo-liberalism, > > globalization, and industrialization, all of which were questioned in the > > Rio+20 debates, especially in relation to the conference?s other major > > theme, ?The Green Economy in the Context of Poverty Eradication and > > Sustainable Development.**** > > > > ** ** > > > > I have learned that equity and security, in unfamiliar ways, are at the > > heart of every sustainable development debate. Small island states ask if > > it is equitable that they should be flooded due to global warming and > > rising seas attributable to the actions of others. The President of > Ecuador > > raises the question how much should his country be paid to leave > > rainforests intact in order to produce oxygen for the world. The ?Green > > Economy,? is viewed by many in the Global South (the term commonly used > in > > place of the ?**Third World**?) as a further expansion of global > > capitalism, the commodification of nature and a threat to indigenous > > people. Security becomes a question for many of whether they will have > > enough food to eat in a world, soon to be populated by 9 billion people, > > facing erosion of land, desertification and land grabs by both foreign > > governments and corporations. Subsistence farmers wonder why they must > > enter the monetary economy to become ?sustainable? or ?be lifted out of > > poverty,? and why their occupation of land for centuries does not > > constitute ?title.?**** > > > > ** ** > > > > I have learned that civil society, largely composed of nonprofit > > organizations (also called nongovernmental organizations or NGOs) and > given > > quite limited official status, by holding to ideals of the future, > > commenting on intergovernmental negotiations and making their voices > heard, > > are collectively a major force in the UN sustainable development process. > > Yet I have also learned that, now more than ever, government is the > > indispensable actor in bringing about the future we want.**** > > > > ** ** > > > > With this growing knowledge, I have come to understand **Rio**+20 as not > > being a failure. The language of outcome documents in UN conferences such > > as **Rio**+20 are arrived at by consensus. Thus, the outcome document of > * > > *Rio**+20 reflected where there was and was not a global consensus on > > future commitments. The current financial crisis (and related national > and > > regional politics) hung like a shadow over the proceedings. While > progress > > on new commitments would have been preferable, the central issue in the > > proceedings became whether governments would preserve the basic > principles > > of sustainable development adopted at the First Earth Summit in Rio in > > 1992, principles such as social equity, gender equality, common but > > differentiated responsibilities (requiring greater responsibility for > > developed countries), human rights (including, heretofore unrecognized > > rights to clean, drinkable water, basic sanitation, food security, a > > minimum standard of living, and a social protection floor), the polluter > > pays, the precautionary principle and the right to development (the right > > of all peoples to develop their own resources for their own needs, > > interests, and cultures). The reaffirmation of these principles became > the > > limited success of the governmental portion of **Rio**+20.**** > > > > ** ** > > > > The greater achievements came in the civil society portion. More than > > 30,000 civil society representatives participated in the official Rio+20 > > conference and 100,000 more in the concurrent People?s ****Summit**** and > > protest marches. There were also large concurrent business and > professional > > gatherings in **Rio**, such as Business Action for Sustainable > > Development Business Day and the World Congress on Justice, Governance > and > > Law for Environmental Sustainability. Knowing of the limitations of the > > official outcome document, activists released 14 People?s Sustainability > > Treaties and a People?s Sustainability Manifesto. President Rousseff of > ** > > Brazil** was justified in calling **Rio**+20 the most participatory > > conference in history and ?a global expression of democracy.?**** > > > > ** ** > > > > People who gathered in **Rio** knew the official results of the > > conference would be limited. They came nevertheless to network and to set > > the stage for the next phase of the UN sustainable development process, > the > > shaping of the post 2015-development agenda in which the present > Millennium > > Development Goals will be integrated into broader and more ambitious > > sustainable development goals. Those from civil society left to form a > > global citizens? movement to take action now for sustainable development > > and to develop the political will for global policy change. **Rio**+20 > > was not an end, rather it was a new beginning. **** > > > > ** ** > > > > Herman**** > > > > *_____________________________________________***** > > > > **Herman Greene****** > > > > ********************2516 Winningham Drive************************ > > > > ********************************Chapel Hill************, > ********NC******* > > * ********27516************** > > > > 919-929-4116 (h)**** > > > > 919-624-0579 (c)**** > > > > 919-942-4358 (f)**** > > > > Skype: hgreene-nc**** > > > > hfgreene(a)mindspring.com **** > > > > ** ** > > ** > > > > _______________________________________________ > > OE mailing list > > OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > > http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net > > > > >

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NASA software developer moves on ...
by Tim Wegner 01 Oct '12

01 Oct '12

Yesterday I turned in my badges at the United Space Alliance. My NASA career started when Susan and I were re-assigned from Egypt to Houston. The only thing I knew about the Space Shuttle was what I had read in Time magazines bought on the streets in Cairo. When we arrived at the Houston House, Susan stayed "in house" and I was assigned to work. Larry Henschen helped me arrange an interview with McDonnell Douglas, a NASA contractor. I had never programmed a computer and had no qualification other than a Master's degree in mathematics and an "all-but-thesis" not-quite-a-PhD. In retrospect, those were great credentials, since the state of computer programming when I was in college was using punch cards. When I was working programming NASA's first Unix computers, I remember thinking "I wish I had studied Unix in college" - then realizing that Unix didn't exist when I was in college! But the principles and laws of mathematics and physics I learned in the late 60's have stood up very well. My career has been spent in the abstract world of mathematical models of gravity, drag, solar pressure, and accelerations - space, the final frontier. Hard to beat that. I missed the first four shuttle flights but arrived in time for STS-5. My first project was an analysis of the shuttle drag model. My supervisors weren't watching closely, so I learned FORTRAN on a UNISYS mainframe and implemented my results in a program called HOPE. (There was another program called LOVE, but not one called FAITH.) Shortly thereafter I was re-assigned as a programmer, and remained a software developer (and software project manager) for my whole career, which extended more then a year past the last Shuttle flight in July 2011. I ended up working for various NASA contractors for a bit over 30 years. Shortly after I started at NASA, Larry Henschen and I were instrumental in helping Lynn Oden, another Houston House order member, in also getting a job. For a few years Lynn and I commutred together. Lynn retired a few years ago, having had a fine career as a Shuttle Navigation Flight Controller. Susan and I never "left" the Houston House; it melted away around us as the Order transitioned away from corporate living. Conna Wilkinson was the last one to leave when she moved back to Oklahoma. So Susan and I turned out the lights of the Houston House and got an apartment, and later bought a house. I am grateful today for all the experiences we had assigned to San Franscisco, San Jose, Melbourne, Adelaide, Bayad, and finally Houston. Susan and I arrived in Houston with no assets but no debts in our mid-thirties, and are now both retired. We still have no debts, but now we have a few assets. I amazed that that was possible! I am still working with a small group of your colleagues keeping the wedgeblade.net glue connecting our far flung community alive. Retirement is, of course, just another "assignment" to new challenges. Tim Wegner

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Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] The old Order passing away
by jonzondo＠juno.com 01 Oct '12

01 Oct '12

My mother, her parents, and her 2 sisters were in the Philippines when WWII broke out. They hid in the jungles there for over 2 years. sometimes they were betrayed and had to leave their hideouts with very little warning. the were also befriended by many. Hence the title of my Grandfather's book, "Betrayed and Befriended" by James F. McKinley. Yes, they were rescued by the Narwhal, a submarine, and were all taken to Australia. After WWII, they returned to the Philippines where my grandparents continued their missionary work with United Church of Christ. I think that Debra and I have extra copies in storage. I will try to find out how many we still have... I still have one in my room. It is heartening and joyful to hear these stories about my mother. I did not know her the way that others did. She did not tell stories about herself very often (except for historical ones)... so some of her actions are only known by those that received them. We are setting up her memorial service on Sunday October 21st in The Woodlands, TX at the Presbyterian Church. Thank you to everyone for your reflections. Again, they are appreciated. Love, Jon Mark, son of Ellery ---------- Original Message ---------- From: LAURELCG(a)aol.com To: oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] The old Order passing away Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 00:39:12 -0400 (EDT) In the San Francisco House, 1970-71, Ellery acquired some bamboo poles and taught the kids a Philippino game kind of like jump rope, but jumping between the poles as they were clapped together in rhythm. She was very good at it. I believe she and her parents didn't get evacuated for 2 or 3 years after the war broke out. They were hidden from the occupying Japanese army by local folks in the crawl space under the house until smuggled out on a submarine and taken to Ayers Rock (?) in Australia. Maybe Jon can elaborate. I believe her father wrote a book about it. I feel privileged to have been acquainted with these two heroines. Jann McGuire In a message dated 9/26/2012 8:02:44 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, dpat23(a)msn.com writes:I remember Ellery's talking about having lived in the Philippines as a high school girl. (Her dad was a missionary and they were evacuated when WWII broke out.) When she was assigned to Manila, she thought the Tagalog language she had been fluent in would come back to her fairly easily. She was very frustrated to find that it was gone and not coming back. About 6 months in to her assignment, she had been doing development in Manila and was exhausted. She got on the bus to go home and wanted nothing much more than a good nap. But the women just behind her would not let that happen. They kept yammering away about the most stupid and trivial things: their kids and their squabbles, the troubles in their marriages, and other nonsense. Ellery was furious; why couldn't these women shut up and let her sleep? Suddenly, she realized that the women were speaking Tagalog and she was understanding every word. She was so tired that she had lost all her inhibitions and the Tagalog that lay just beneath her conscious mind came out. So from then on, she both understood and spoke Tagalog fluently.She had a great time telling this story on herself.Pat From: sunwalker(a)comcast.net To: dialogue(a)lists.wedgeblade.net; oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 11:49:46 -0600 Subject: [Dialogue] The old Order passing away First, a reflection on Ellery – as a young and inexperienced Global Prior, Ellery was one of the ones who was gracious enough to let me learn from my mistakes without rancor and yet with continued nourishing support. Just her face was a human support mechanism. She spiritually nourished me and we rarely even spoke. And with mortality on my mind as so many saints are called home, knowing you have gone with God, I will let go a bit of the anticipation of my own return. For Carol, while there are many, many memories: one that popped to the top was the time we were at the IERD in Delhi and had boarded the VERY tiny elevator on the top floor (about the 22nd as I recall) of the hotel where we were housed. We pushed the button for the ground floor and about a third of the way down, the elevator shuddered to a stop and the door opened…on a brick wall. Well, I was a little claustrophobic and unaware that Carol was extremely claustrophobic. That hour waiting to be rescued (it could have been 15 minutes, but seemed like SEVERAL hours) was revealing of the wondrous woman of steel (Superman move over) who kept us breathing and laughing to avoid injuring ourselves in the mad panic of fear that sets in when you MUST get OUT and you cannot. Clearly our circumstances were not our problem. While in “Heaven,” do a few cartwheels for me, my dear, as I know we both would enjoy them. 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Re: [Oe List ...] NASA software developer - Jaime's tribute
by LAURELCG＠aol.com 30 Sep '12

30 Sep '12

Thank you, Jaime.Your teaching journey is amazing. Which state did you not touch on? Jann In a message dated 9/29/2012 8:55:22 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, svesjaime(a)aol.com writes: To colleagues related to NASA and its work, here's a "testimonial" that was in the Opinion column of the Saipan Tribune a week Tuesday.

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An Amazing Two Days at ICA Chicago-Telling Our Story & The Global Archives
by Herman Greene 30 Sep '12

30 Sep '12

In the below I meant a memory that goes back 40-45 years, not 50-55 years and I have corrected it. _____ From: Herman Greene [mailto:hfgreene@mindspring.com] Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 6:40 PM To: 'Order Ecumenical Community' Subject: An Amazing Two Days at ICA Chicago-Telling Our Story & The Global Archives I spent what for me were an amazing two days in Chicago last Thursday and Friday. I went because Jack and Judy Gilles were working on the Global Archives and were going to leave this morning, September 30. It was the only time I could get to see them. I am finding a yearning to tell our story and bring some of it forward. More particularly I miss working with people who were formed out of the same fire as I was. I work with activists, truly "Those Who Care," but something is missing for me. It's primarily an interior aspect-that "die on the march" aspect, that "live the mystery" aspect, that "the past is approved and the future is open (to be created)" aspect, that "we can get anything down that is necessary" aspect, that "we can drop everything and focus . . . and sacrifice" aspect," that "we can leave all our possessions behind" if need be aspect. One could argue that the Marines also create this kind of interior steel and discipline, but it is different. (Actually the Marines might excel in honor of country and even willingness to die, but it is still different.) I have only experienced this in the Order. I know this has made me much of what I am and I have a yearning to pass it on to others, especially as I realize my own age, 67, and see so many colleagues passing away. So while a part of me thinks its silly for grownups to be filing all the town meeting 76 event folders (and all the work that goes into that), another part of me also claws back to recover that past . . . for the future. What we were as the Order has passed away (I mean in terms of being able to re-create it as it was again), and all of those magnificent moments and events we created have passed away. Yet there is an echo in the hallway that will not stop. I will go into this more later, but what past it is that I want to pass on is difficult to grasp. Is it the Order, RSI, EI, ICA, EI and ICA, all before Joe died (or in my case before 1975 when I left the Order), all up to today including the recent history of ICA? I have some ideas, but they are not important for this email. All that's important now is that I was drawn back to Chicago to discuss, primarily with Jack, how the spirit transformation part of who we were then (and inside are now) can be transmitted to the future as we who experienced this grow older and older and pass away. The "we" I am talking about is those of us who carry a memory back of 40-45 years (other may have a different time span) when it seems to me the really creative breakthroughs occurred. I'm at the younger end of those who experienced that as adults (I was 21 when I joined the Order in 1967). Now some may have joined in 1972 or later and still have "gotten it," but what I am talking about is something that was gotten or it was not, back then. So we are a dying cohort and the question has arisen for me whether there is something we still need to do together? My answer is I think that if there is something that we still need to do together it is to transmit that legacy as a living legacy for present and future generations. Part of this is transmitting facts, part the interior narrative, but most of all it is transmitting the timeless spiritual reality we came to know and which has shaped our lives but this is not easy because it is not a simple thing. It's much more than just coming out of an RS-1, or any other short even, inspired I had many important moments of understanding this past week in Chicago and felt tremendous gratitude for what Marge Philbrook and colleagues have done on the archives, and for the work Jack has done in thinking through how this can be a living legacy. I In brief Jack and those who workshopped with him, realized that its not just a matter of preserving the past by putting facts in file cabinets and waiting for someone to want it, but it is giving people a way of understanding what's in the collection (Jack uses the term "curation" like a museum curator) and applying that material to the cutting edge issues of our time. What I especially appreciated though was the attached chart in three formats, because it gave me a way to grasp the entirety of what it is that we were/are/may need in some fashion to pass on. In a certain sense the attached chart overwhelms me because I thought there were a few key things like "contextual ethics" and the RS-1 dynamic and a few other things that might "really need to be" passed on . . . just a few key things. But now I see it was "all of it"-a giant spiritual event and happening that unfolded over many years and took many forms all of which were a single event. To recreate this would require thousands of people in summer assemblies and a new order and that is not going to happen. Yet I think there is something we can do and need to do and which no one else can do. So, in conclusion, I believe there is something we still need to do together and that is to pass on a living legacy. By distinguishing legacy from living legacy I meant this: "Legacy" is preserving the past for its own sake. "Living legacy" is recovering the past so that it might continue to transform the future. The attached Accessions chart is just a beginning. I know that Jack would like to receive your suggestions. More soon, Herman _____________________________________________ Herman Greene 2516 Winningham Drive Chapel Hill, NC 27516 919-929-4116 (h) 919-624-0579 (c) 919-942-4358 (f) Skype: hgreene-nc hfgreene(a)mindspring.com

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Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] Carlos Romulo
by LAURELCG＠aol.com 30 Sep '12

30 Sep '12

You're right, Jaime. I'm sure it was Carlos Romulo. Here's a story from wikipedia: . In 1948 in Paris, France, at the third UN General Assembly, he strongly disagreed with a proposal made by the _Soviet_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet) delegation headed by _Andrei Vishinsky_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrei_Vishinsky) , who challenged his credentials by insulting him with this quote: "You are just a little man from a little country." In return, Romulo replied, "It is the duty of the little Davids of this world to fling the pebbles of truth in the eyes of the blustering Goliaths and force them to behave!", leaving Vishinsky with nothing left to do but sit down. He also had a comeback about being a dime among nickels. Twice between 1952 and 1954, he expanded my world in a wonderful way It's amazing to me now that such a great man was on the high school assembly circuit. That couldn't happen now. They're too busy testing. Thanks, Jann In a message dated 9/29/2012 7:24:32 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, svesjaime(a)aol.com writes: Jann, that might have been Carlos Romulo, a squirt of a dynamo who Truman called "the President of the World". He was the first President of the UN General Assembly. He wore elevated shoes and apocryphal stories abound of him literally standing on copies of the Encyclopedia Britanica! He was a diplomat extraordinaire! j'aime la vie

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Re: [Oe List ...] Endeavor flight over California /NASA connections...
by LAURELCG＠aol.com 30 Sep '12

30 Sep '12

Ruth, It was great to hear your stories of classroom connections to the space program. We've lived in such exciting times. I heard the 747 rumble overhead, but missed seeing it. Guess it flew up the east side of the central valley to Sacramento, over to the Golden Gate and then down the coast. As for the next generation, my son Barry is going to interview for a job with NASA next week, as a machinist making parts for the telescope on Mauna Kea. He works for a Navy contractor at Pearl Harbor now, where they're worried about Pentagon budget cuts. Working at 14,000 feet appeals to him, I think. I've really enjoyed the string that Tim's retirement announcement started. Thank you, Tim and blessings on your future journey. In Love, Jann McGuire In a message dated 9/29/2012 7:31:03 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, tddynewf(a)cruzio.com writes: A few days ago on September 21st we had the fly over of the Endeavor piggybacked on its 747 on the way to Los Angeles. I missed seeeing it flying right over this area, but many of my friends saw it, and lots of pictures were posted of it flying over Santa Cruz and the Monterey Bay.

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Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] The old Order passing away
by Jaime R Vergara 29 Sep '12

29 Sep '12

Jann, that might have been Carlos Romulo, a squirt of a dynamo who Truman called "the President of the World". He was the first President of the UN General Assembly. He wore elevated shoes and apocryphal stories abound of him literally standing on copies of the Encyclopedia Britanica! He was a diplomat extraordinaire! j'aime la vie -----Original Message----- From: LAURELCG <LAURELCG(a)aol.com> To: oe <oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> Sent: Sun, Sep 30, 2012 9:15 am Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] The old Order passing away The name Romulo sent a flood of memories rushing in of Ambassador Romulo (what was his first name - also started with R, I think) speaking at 2 assemblies at my high school - Midland (TX) H.S. He was an extremely inspirational speaker, and expanded my context exponentially. Jann In a message dated 9/27/2012 10:20:56 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, susan(a)gmdtech.com writes: Jon, if you do have a copy I could borrow, this time I would definitely make photocopies before returning it. Would love to have a copy and share it with Ginger Hansen Holmes, who, as I mentioned, was born in Mindanao. Her mom was a gorgeous Mestiza. Ginger (Virginia) was about 3 or 4 years old when the Japanese invaded the Philippines. She lives nearby and we are both life members (and I am former president) of the Association of Philippine American Women (APAW), founded in 1947 by Mrs. Romulo (wife of the first Ambassador of the Republic of the Philippines to the U.S.) and her friend Trini Legarda. Ginger’s husband, Kent, is in the process of completing a book about my uncle, Wendell Fertig, who led the guerrillas on Mindanao. I know they’d love to see your grandfather’s book—it would likely give Kent some details about Mindanao in WWII that he doesn’t have, despite all his research. Susan _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net

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