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by Jack Gilles 25 Sep '13

25 Sep '13

Dear Colleagues, Just to let you all know. We arrived safe and sound at 5pm our time. Flights (Kalispell, Seattle, LA, PV). went well, house is clean, got a lady to care starting tomorrow at 8 am -1pm, every day for the next two weeks, except Sunday. She is an American, perfect English, a dream come true! More later. Very tired, but all unpacked. To bed when sun goes down. More in a day or so. Grace & Peace, Jack & Judy

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9/19/13, Spong: SYRIA, POISON GAS, MISSILE STRIKES AND PEACE?
by Ellie Stock 23 Sep '13

23 Sep '13

HOMEPAGE MY PROFILE ESSAY ARCHIVE MESSAGE BOARDS CALENDAR SYRIA, POISON GAS, MISSILE STRIKES AND PEACE? It has been both an emotional and a political roller-coaster. The television newscasters and the print media informed us that a political debate was underway as to whether or not the armed might of this country should be used to punish the Syrian government for violating the universal condemnation against chemical warfare that has governed the world since the horror of gas in the trenches in World War I. Pictures were released of small children, who had been the victims of sarin gas. The pictures were chilling. I enquired of a medical expert about the effects of sarin gas on the human body. He shuddered even to talk about it. His sentences were short and declarative. “It is deadly.” “There is no protection.” “Suffering is intense.” “Death is inevitable.” For almost one hundred years, despite brutal wars, both worldwide and local, with weapon enhancements like atomic power and cruise missiles, the prohibition against chemical warfare has still been generally adhered to by the nations of the world until this moment. Now the Syrian government has breeched this taboo, in an action widely believed to have been ordered by its president, Bashar al-Assad. I did not disagree with the official statement of facts and yet the debate itself struck me as deeply irrational. Condemning one tactic of war as inhumane, while condoning the war itself, strikes me as a strange line of reasoning. The nuclear bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in the last days of World War II killed about 100,000 civilians in each city. There were, however, no photographs except that of a mushroom cloud. We did not see victims in the last stages of life because the bomb vaporized them. Estimates are that the poison gas attacks in Syria killed over 1400 hundred people. Well over 100,000 people, however, had been killed previously in this cruel civil war. It seems to me that all of them are equally dead. One wonders if the means by which they died is of any great significance to the victims. Nevertheless political leaders at home and abroad engaged this debate quite publicly. The “war hawk” part of the Republican Party, led by Senators John McCain of Arizona and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina quickly endorsed the call for a military response. Neither has ever seen a war they did not favor. Politics being what they are, however, neither could resist using their endorsement to slam the President for not engaging this war much earlier and on the side of the rebels. They were soon joined by House Speaker, John Boehner, but how many Republican votes he can control in his caucus is always a question, not just on this issue, but on any other. The Libertarian wing of Republican Party, led by Senator Rand Paul, was vehemently opposed to any military intervention. They are far too isolationist in their foreign policy ideas to embrace anything that might lead to another unpopular and expensive war. War is also an activity of “big government,” which they oppose. They were joined in this opposition by the “hate Obama” wing of this party which seems to infect in varying degrees all Republicans. These political operatives act on the premise that if President Obama is for it, even if it is an idea that was originally a Republican proposal, they are against it. That is a strange way to be an opposition party, but that is what ideologically driven American politics has degenerated into being. Those on the Democratic side of the aisle did not do much better. The tensions within this party are equally real. In the last twenty-five years this nation has been led into three Middle Eastern wars: Iraq I, Afghanistan and Iraq II. All three resulted from foreign policy decisions made by Republican presidents. None of these wars was conclusive. All were expensive. There is no doubt that the unbudgeted costs of these three wars contributed both to the out-of-bounds deficit we still seek to get under control and to the economic collapse that occurred in 2008. There is, therefore, little stomach among leading Democrats for another military action in another Middle Eastern country. Many in this nation have discovered the unintended consequences of war decisions far too often to be interested in going down that road yet once again. Middle Eastern civil wars with deep religious overtones, we have observed, do not lend themselves to military solutions anyway. This decision to begin retaliatory military procedures against Syria, however, came from a Democratic president, perhaps more importantly, from a president who has spent his first term in office unwinding the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Could the Democrats ignore this call from their own elected leader? This president surprisingly then decided to do what few other presidents have done. Before ordering this strike he asked Congress to authorize his action. It was high risk to ask this almost dysfunctional body of legislators to do much of anything, making the president clearly vulnerable. The polls showed that the American public did not favor a new military engagement in the Middle East and the Congress began to reflect that popular will. The Obama administration, sensing defeat, tried to minimize the “punitive” response. It would be a “surgical strike,” they said. “It will be designed not to destroy the Assad regime, but only to destroy his capacity to use chemical weapons.” Our purpose is only to “degrade,” that became the new code word, “his ability to wage war.” Perhaps these words helped acceptance to grow, but that is unlikely. These distinctions were also non-sensical. If these attacks were to “degrade” Assad’s ability to wage war, does that not lead to his removal from power at the hands of the rebels? Is it not the stated public policy of the government of the United States to remove Assad from power? Who then are we fooling? Are we ready to embrace the rebels as our choice for the future of Syria? Is there any evidence that the rebels want our endorsement? Is the devil we know worse than the devil we do not know? How many Muslim terrorists, members of Hezbollah or the Taliban have infiltrated the ranks of the rebel forces? The issues are not clear. If the president of the United States asks Congress to authorize a military strike and Congress were to refuse, is not permanent damage inflicted on the office of the presidency itself? Would any future president ever again ask for congressional approval for a military initiative? Would that not open this country up to a president who would then seem to have the unilateral power to begin a war that no one wanted? So the debate raged and good options began to disappear. Irrationality seemed to reign supreme. Then a new initiative appeared from a surprising source that, on the surface at least, seemed better than any other alternative. There was not only a rush to embrace that initiative, but also a rush to claim credit for it, despite the lack of comfort that surrounded it. Suddenly the only way out of the Syrian debacle required that we trust Russia’s Vladimir Putin, who now seemed to occupy center stage. Through the op-ed page of the New York Times Putin was allowed to speak to the American people. That was more than some politicians could manage. Mr. Putin also ridiculed the popular political claim to “American Exceptionalism.” One well known Republican Senator told the world that he “wanted to throw up” as he read the Putin piece. There were, however, no other options on the table around which anyone could rally. Leaders thus held their noses and sought to use this offer to move the process along. At week’s end a tentative agreement was reached. If it holds there are many benefits. If it fails there are huge downside risks. Syria’s chemical warfare arsenal was to be turned over to an international body and destroyed. A powerful message would thus be sent to rogue governments from North Korea to Somalia that the civilized world was watching and was ready to act. Such an agreement would surely encourage the new government in Iran to seek better relations with the world. This agreement, if successful, might actually open the door to a negotiated settlement to the entire Syrian civil war. If that were successful, then perhaps the door would be ajar for a much larger Middle Eastern peace proposal that would create a permanent settlement between Israel and the Palestinians, a settlement than many people regard as the key to Middle-Eastern peace. International relations do turn on breakthrough moments. Perhaps this Syrian settlement will prove to be one of those moments. Time alone will tell us whether this is so. If it is, then we will have seen a new alternative to both power politics and to the “balance of terror” that has kept the world’s fragile peace since the end of World War II. That would be an exceptional result. Perhaps “American Exceptionalism” is not something we are, as we like to pretend, but something we are called to be, in this case peacemakers. That would be a new idea. Perhaps real leadership could then emerge both at home and abroad, based not on political posturing, but on solving real problems in the service of all the people at home and abroad. For now let us dare to hope. If this initiative fails or turns out to be little more than the stalling tactic that many fear it is, then we would have to turn to “Plan B.” The only trouble is that there does not appear to be a “Plan B!” John Shelby Spong Read the essay online here. Question & Answer Mike Rand from Dorset, UK, writes: Question: I work for the Dorset police here in Dorset, England. I do not come from a Christian family although I did attend a Methodist Sunday School as a boy. I have been searching to try and make sense of the Christian message and many of the complex questions that the Bible throws up. I have read a number of your books and I have to say that they are the first publications that make any sense to me. The question of the death of Jesus being a method of atonement from original sin has always been a major block to faith for me. I have in the past completed the Church of England’s Alpha courses, but the answers given by well-meaning clergy have never made any sense to me. The literalist view of the Bible in this modern day and age doesn’t aid understanding. I am halfway through your latest publication relating to the Fourth Gospel. I feel for the first time a sense of enlightenment with the view that the life of Jesus was to show us the vision of what we can be and to assist as a gateway into the mystical union with God. This at least gives a real purpose to Jesus’ life and work. My question is where can I, and others like me, go from here. I have yet to find a church organization that isn’t governed by restrictive creeds and regulations? If we do find a new faith and belief, where and what should the next stage be to becoming all that we are meant to be? Is it enough just to believe in a private and individual way? Do we need to find a group of like-minded people with similar views or is it sufficient just to go it alone? I am coming up to London with a good friend of mine in October to hear you lecture in Streatham. I am really looking forward to seeing you. Any advice you can give me on my “where next” question would be gratefully received. Answer: Dear Mike, Thank you for your letter. I have great respect for those who serve as policemen in England. I have a nephew, who is a Special Forces policeman in Devizes, which is very near you. I shall look forward to meeting you at the October lecture in Streatham. Maybe I can get him to come and introduce him to you. Many parts of the established Church of England are in fact moribund. Someone observed that rigor mortis would be too lively a word to describe many of its congregations. This Church, out of which my Episcopal Church has come and to which we are still related, sings from a hymnal entitled “Hymns Ancient and Modern,” but “modern” barely gets to the 19th century. It is burdened with the structures of yesterday, with patronage and with a hierarchy so bound to the establishment that its leaders do not realize how out of date it is. Traditionally this Church was divided into three groups that were affectionately designated “high and crazy, broad and hazy and low and lazy.” The high and crazy group is more catholic than the Pope. They chant the mass, use incense on every occasion and employ a variety of worship traditions to make sure the 13th century liturgical forms will not be disturbed. Like their Roman Catholic cousins, this “high and crazy” group does not generally care for women priests. The “low and lazy” group is made up of the evangelicals who still seem to believe that God wrote the Bible and therefore that it must be inerrant. They offer salvation and the bliss of heaven only to “true believers,” i.e. those who agree with them. They publish what is surely the worst church paper I have ever read called “The Church of England Newspaper.” They seem to me to reserve their passion for church fights to the task of saving the Church of England from the pollution of both homosexuals and women, because they think the Bible defines gay people as evil or “deviant” and women as subservient. The Alpha course is a product of this “low and lazy” way of thinking in the Church of England. The “broad and hazy” group used to be the ones who gave the Church of England its flavor and its entertainment value. This group takes religion somewhat less than seriously, but they don’t reject it because it is part of what it means to be English. They also want an institution in which their babies can be “christened,” their children married and themselves buried, not so much because these things are inherently of great value, but because that is the proper way to do things, the English way. As secularism rises, this broad group has, however, essentially given up religion so that all of England’s fierce religious disputes are now between the “high crazies” and the “low lazies.” Both of them tend to bore thinking people. In England there is a group called the Progressive Christian Network, originally headed by the Rev. Hugh Dawes, one of the most creative priests I’ve ever known. It is now headed by the Rev. John Churcher, an outstanding and brilliant Methodist clergyman. They sponsor and support study groups in all parts of the UK. A constituent part of the Progressive Christian Network is the progressive wing of the United Reformed Church of England, a merger originally between English Congregationalists and English Presbyterians. This Church has produced some great leaders, including Fred Kaan, whom I regard as perhaps the greatest Christian hymn writer of the 20th century. This Church has also sponsored national conferences called “Free to Believe,” where they have encouraged lay people to wrestle with the real questions that Christians living in the 21st century need to face if Christianity is to live and be relevant. So my advice to you is to seek contact with a group associated with the Progressive Christian Network of the UK and begin to work with one of its groups. Perhaps some members of that organization, reading this response to your question, will get in touch with you directly or through this column if they prefer. I look forward to meeting you in October and thank you for your letter. You are the kind of person toward whom my whole life’s work is directed. Live well! John Shelby Spong Announcements Find community where you live as well as connect with others around the world! Visit our Global Network Directory today and find other "Believers in exhile!" Join the progressive Christian movement and add your name to the directory. Just go to "My Account," then "Sign Up" and click: "show me in directory." Bishop Spong will be in the United Kingdom in October- view the Calendar for his speaking schedule!

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John Epps' new book: "The Theology of Surprise"
by Lynda Cock 23 Sep '13

23 Sep '13

George Walters of Resurgence Publishing requested that we post this notice on the OE and Dialogue list serves: Order John Epps' new book: "The Theology of Surprise" at <http://www.resurgencepublishing.com/> www.resurgencepublishing.com. In this book John shares with us 50 years of his experience and wisdom in his "encounters with Life's Mysteries" and critical thinking about such topics as "The Theology of Development" from JWM and others. Recently Perkins Theological Seminary accepted for the Perkins Library copies of John's book and all of those he has shared in editing (Bending History Series). They also accepted Brother Joe and the Symposium publications and the books of Bill Holmes and Bishop Mathews. The "Wesley Nexus" has recently published a review of John's new book as well. On any Android device, you can download the new RPC App from the Google Play store "rpc.mobile" and order from your phone or tablet. Bulk Orders: On the website and RPC mobile There is an offer there for bulk orders for study books (qty of 10) when ordered directly through Resurgence Publishing with credit card payment options (or send a check). Single Orders: You can also click the "Amazon" or "Barnes and Noble" Icons on our website for single orders less than 10 copies.Or you can order from a dozen different sources by searching on your Google or Bing "John Epps "The Theology of Surprise"". On the New RPC website and mobile app, you will also enjoy a photo history and all the videos now published on YouTube from the 2009 Symposium at Wesley Seminary, Washington DC. (To view the photos, scroll down to the grey band at the bottom of the home page. Select RPC Conferencing on the right side above the You Tube symbol. Congratulations to John Epps on his new book. Lynda and John Cock)

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Thank you
by Marilyn Crocker 19 Sep '13

19 Sep '13

Hi Bill, I'm sending this to say thank you for your note of apology and clarification. I realize I reacted, rather than responded, to the rough draft version sent by mistake - I had not read your longer piece, clearly edited by Bev. These days I fear my humor gene is somewhat stunted, especially when I am fatigued, as I was last evening. I totally missed your tongue-in-cheek tone. As you and Bev know, Joe and I experienced ourselves deeply blessed by the loving care you and Bev gave to Jon and Ben during Summer '72, and never doubted you - hence the shocking disconnect I felt with your words. Anyway, I hope we both are wiser for this little "snafu" in the greater universe of sharing memories of the beloved community. Grace, peace and love, Marilyn

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Salmon: Reply with apology (again) [2/2]
by William Salmon 19 Sep '13

19 Sep '13

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Salmon: Reply with apology (again) [1/2]
by William Salmon 19 Sep '13

19 Sep '13

Colleagues-- Well, there we have it. My apology was mis-sent the first time. Boy, can I ever screw up even the best intentions. Again, to all concerned please accept my apologies. Inner Peace, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: William Salmon To: Order Ecumenical Community Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 6:31 AM Subject: Salmon: Reply with apology Joe and Marilyn-- Please accept my apology. What was written was supposed to be a sense of irony and fun. Actually, the message was accidentally sent prior to Beverly reading it as evidenced by the mistakes and incomplete sentence because I needed to check with her; Joe becomes John--what's that all about? Why it left my machine is still not fully understood. Forgive me. You and your sons are precious in our memories and we both are pleased to be counted as friends and colleagues and to have been asked to care for them. We are proud of their accomplishments and yours too. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: Marilyn Crocker To: 'Order Ecumenical Community' Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 10:27 PM Subject: [Oe List ...] Please reflect first..;. Hey there, Bill and Bev, I just caught up with what you wrote about memories re: 5thCity. I cannot comment on the earlier stories, but I can when we, as an Order, decided to make the turn to the world and launch the Summer '72 program at the new Kemper building. I'm questioning what you described below is not at all the case. When our twins (born in Singapore) and by 1972 were two years old when Joe and I were assigned as staff for Summer '72. Joe and I were so delighted that you and Bev were their "guardians" for the summer. We experienced that they thrived while in the 5th city pre-school, and with you and Bev as "Papa Bill" and "Mama Bev." At least that was what you and Bev reported to us in August of 1972. I cannot imagine why you would not only misrepresent where we (their parents) were - not at all in India, but in the West Side of Chicago - but would also demean our sons by suggesting that you would mark their foreheads - admitting to something that I now see as akin to child molestation - especially when I , their Mom, collected them from pre-school most days. What you have written below is shameful, Bill . Please, from now on ask yourself, "Who might I malign by expostulating in such a fashion?" Your colleague, Marilyn Later, Marilyn and John Crocker were sent for the summer to India and we were put in charge of fairly new twins. Geez, they were identical and weighed in lik Later, Marilyn and John Crocker were sent for the summer to India and we were put in charge of fairly new twins. Geez, they were identical and weighed in like football linemen. Carrying them up the stairs to the Crocker's apartment was a living chore. In order to keep them identified, I marked their initials on their foreheads with permanent markers--of course, this is what made them so diddly dern smart. Look at them know. The next time you see them, look closely at their foreheads. e football linemen. Carrying them up the stairs to the Crocker's apartment was a living chore. In order to keep them identified, I marked their initials on their foreheads with permanent markers--of course, this is what made them so diddly dern smart. Look at them know. The next time you see them, look closely at their foreheads. My other story about the basement is the first weekend of our internment. Beverly was assigned to paint the old gym, and I was assigned to Baby Care. I learn all about diaper songs, and feeding songs, and whatever else was necessary. Joe and I had From: oe-bounces(a)lists.wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of William Salmon Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 6:02 PM To: Order Ecumenical Community Subject: [Oe List ...] Salmon:A couple of stories Paula--The print shop I remember was down the street very near the The boiler room in the basement brings another memory or two. When preparing myself for an internship in June of 1972, I traveled to Chicago on recruiting trips for Kansas Wesleyan University. Before that job was over, I recruited one young 5th Citizen college student who came and made a educational name for herself. Unfortunately, I have trouble remembering names. Sometimes I forget that I'm married to Betty Sue, that is another story. I planned to stay over the weekend at the seminary, and I arrived in the early evening to park on the street in my school car--a brand new Chevy Impala. I entered the building through the Guard Shack to a follow wearing a gun. Others were busy charting! Since it was Friday evening, everyone was eating everywhere, including on the floor upon the dirtiest carpet I ever saw. The food was good though--especially the bread pudding. Later, they took me to my room in the basement in what was the coal bin. They gave me two clear sheets and a pillow (I think that is what they called it). There being no light, it was iffy in getting everything put together. Reveille was the traditional gong and spiritual phrase. My first meeting was with an old friend from Kansas--a pastor (not Philbrook) who later left the Order to serve a church in the Chicago suburbs. Damn him! He crushed my bubble big time, and then later he ran out on me. He asked me what I was doing, and I gave him my report of working for Kansas Wesleyan and beginning the Kansas Lake Ministry at 4 Kansas lakes. He looked through me and said, "Too bad you are not doing enough!" "What do you mean," I stammered? "Is what you are doing global and replicable?" That sold me right there. The rest of the weekend is lost to memory except for the Sunday afternoon Sacramental meal. I remember some colleague saying a pray on some subject, and Joseph interrupted him by saying, (in effect), "Don't listen to him, God. He doesn't know what he is talking about." After that my only concern was if my car survived or not. It did! Do Guardian Angels exist? Naw, just raw luck. My other story about the basement is the first weekend of our internment. Beverly was assigned to paint the old gym, and I was assigned to Baby Care. I learn all about diaper songs, and feeding songs, and whatever else was necessary. Later, Marilyn and John Crocker were sent for the summer to India and we were put in charge of fairly new twins. Geez, they were identical and weighed in like football linemen. Carrying them up the stairs to the Crocker's apartment was a living chore. In order to keep them identified, I marked their initials on their foreheads with permanent markers--of course, this is what made them so diddly dern smart. Look at them know. The next time you see them, look closely at their foreheads. Ah, I have so many other stories to tell, and I'll get to it soon. One is the greeting we received in the seminary hall while our son, Wesley, was getting mugged by the children in the courtyard. Another, is why they told us that all that we brought with us would be left overnight in the middle of the street. Whatever was left over was what we really would need for the duration. It really is a shame that was more myth than reality. I'll save that one for later, including the one about Richard Epson--a real honest-to-goodness colleague who caught the vision of the print-shop significance. Inner Peace, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: Paula Philbrook To: Order Ecumenical Community Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 8:51 AM Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Salmon: Question Richard Epson was 70's I remember him working on the Town Meeting program. Are you talking the print shop in the basement boiler room on the campus or down the street on 5th Avenue? I do not remember when we moved down the street but it was before 1969? On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 8:29 AM, James Wiegel <jfwiegel(a)yahoo.com> wrote: Did Michael Ware work in the printshop one quarter?? Jim Wiegel "The bad news is you're falling through the air, nothing to hang on to, no parachute. The good news is there's no ground." - Chögyam Trungpa Rinpoche 401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353-2401 +1 623-363-3277 skype: jfredwiegel jfwiegel(a)yahoo.com www.partnersinparticipation.com Upcoming public course opportunities: ToP Facilitation Methods, Sept 17-18, 2013 ToP Strategic Planning, Nov 5-6, 2013 The AZ Community of Practice meets the 1st Friday of each month 1-4 pm Facilitation Mastery : Our Mastering the Technology of Participation program is available in Phoenix in 2012-3. Current program began on Nov 14-16, 2012 See short video http://partnersinparticipation.com/?page_id=55 and website for further details. AICP Planners: 14.5 CM for all ToP courses On Sep 17, 2013, at 18:57, "William Salmon" <wsalmon(a)cox.net> wrote: Randy-- I know Bob Shropshire well, and the name Richard Epson (?) rings a bell softly. He was 5.7 and about 150 #. He had a great spirit about him. Can anyone help me out. I'll take this name under consideration. Thanks! Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: R Williams To: wsalmon(a)cox.net Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Salmon: Question Bill, The two who come to mind that it could have been are Bob Shropshire or maybe Richard Epson. Not real sure about that I have the second name right. Randy "A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they know they shall never sit." --Greek Proverb From: William Salmon <wsalmon(a)cox.net> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 3:44 PM Subject: [Oe List ...] Salmon: Question Beret-- If someone can tell me the name of a young black young adult (Order?) who worked in the Print Shop in the mid-1960's, I have a nice story to share. In addition, I'll send two or three others. Help, anyone? Bill Salmon ----- Original Message ----- From: Beret Griffith (Google Drive) To: Oe(a)wedgeblade.net Cc: dialogue(a)lists.wedgeblade.net Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 4:47 PM Subject: [Oe List ...] Archive History-Version 9.doc (Oe(a)wedgeblade.net) I've shared an item with you. Colleagues, Greetings from The Global Archives. Marge Philbrook has been the inspiration for documenting the history of The Global Archives.Your recollections of the archives are welcome and will be included. Anyone with memories of the print shops? We would like to add your stories and recollections, in addition to hearing about anyones experiences in the archives. Archive History-Version 9.doc Google Drive: create, share, and keep all your stuff in one place. _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net No virus found in this message. 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Salmon: Reply with apology [1/2]
by William Salmon 19 Sep '13

19 Sep '13

Joe and Marilyn-- Please accept my apology. What was written was supposed to be a sense of irony and fun. Actually, the message was accidentally sent prior to Beverly reading it as evidenced by the mistakes and incomplete sentence because I needed to check with her. Why it left my machine is still not fully understood. Forgive me. I suppose this is what I get for growing older. You and your sons are precious in our memories and we both are pleased to be counted as colleagues and to have been asked to care for them. We are proud of their accomplishments. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: Marilyn Crocker To: 'Order Ecumenical Community' Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 10:27 PM Subject: [Oe List ...] Please reflect first..;. Hey there, Bill and Bev, I just caught up with what you wrote about memories re: 5thCity. I cannot comment on the earlier stories, but I can when we, as an Order, decided to make the turn to the world and launch the Summer '72 program at the new Kemper building. I'm questioning what you described below is not at all the case. When our twins (born in Singapore) and by 1972 were two years old when Joe and I were assigned as staff for Summer '72. Joe and I were so delighted that you and Bev were their "guardians" for the summer. We experienced that they thrived while in the 5th city pre-school, and with you and Bev as "Papa Bill" and "Mama Bev." At least that was what you and Bev reported to us in August of 1972. I cannot imagine why you would not only misrepresent where we (their parents) were - not at all in India, but in the West Side of Chicago - but would also demean our sons by suggesting that you would mark their foreheads - admitting to something that I now see as akin to child molestation - especially when I , their Mom, collected them from pre-school most days. What you have written below is shameful, Bill . Please, from now on ask yourself, "Who might I malign by expostulating in such a fashion?" Your colleague, Marilyn Later, Marilyn and John Crocker were sent for the summer to India and we were put in charge of fairly new twins. Geez, they were identical and weighed in lik Later, Marilyn and John Crocker were sent for the summer to India and we were put in charge of fairly new twins. Geez, they were identical and weighed in like football linemen. Carrying them up the stairs to the Crocker's apartment was a living chore. In order to keep them identified, I marked their initials on their foreheads with permanent markers--of course, this is what made them so diddly dern smart. Look at them know. The next time you see them, look closely at their foreheads. e football linemen. Carrying them up the stairs to the Crocker's apartment was a living chore. In order to keep them identified, I marked their initials on their foreheads with permanent markers--of course, this is what made them so diddly dern smart. Look at them know. The next time you see them, look closely at their foreheads. My other story about the basement is the first weekend of our internment. Beverly was assigned to paint the old gym, and I was assigned to Baby Care. I learn all about diaper songs, and feeding songs, and whatever else was necessary. Joe and I had From: oe-bounces(a)lists.wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of William Salmon Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 6:02 PM To: Order Ecumenical Community Subject: [Oe List ...] Salmon:A couple of stories Paula--The print shop I remember was down the street very near the The boiler room in the basement brings another memory or two. When preparing myself for an internship in June of 1972, I traveled to Chicago on recruiting trips for Kansas Wesleyan University. Before that job was over, I recruited one young 5th Citizen college student who came and made a educational name for herself. Unfortunately, I have trouble remembering names. Sometimes I forget that I'm married to Betty Sue, that is another story. I planned to stay over the weekend at the seminary, and I arrived in the early evening to park on the street in my school car--a brand new Chevy Impala. I entered the building through the Guard Shack to a follow wearing a gun. Others were busy charting! Since it was Friday evening, everyone was eating everywhere, including on the floor upon the dirtiest carpet I ever saw. The food was good though--especially the bread pudding. Later, they took me to my room in the basement in what was the coal bin. They gave me two clear sheets and a pillow (I think that is what they called it). There being no light, it was iffy in getting everything put together. Reveille was the traditional gong and spiritual phrase. My first meeting was with an old friend from Kansas--a pastor (not Philbrook) who later left the Order to serve a church in the Chicago suburbs. Damn him! He crushed my bubble big time, and then later he ran out on me. He asked me what I was doing, and I gave him my report of working for Kansas Wesleyan and beginning the Kansas Lake Ministry at 4 Kansas lakes. He looked through me and said, "Too bad you are not doing enough!" "What do you mean," I stammered? "Is what you are doing global and replicable?" That sold me right there. The rest of the weekend is lost to memory except for the Sunday afternoon Sacramental meal. I remember some colleague saying a pray on some subject, and Joseph interrupted him by saying, (in effect), "Don't listen to him, God. He doesn't know what he is talking about." After that my only concern was if my car survived or not. It did! Do Guardian Angels exist? Naw, just raw luck. My other story about the basement is the first weekend of our internment. Beverly was assigned to paint the old gym, and I was assigned to Baby Care. I learn all about diaper songs, and feeding songs, and whatever else was necessary. Later, Marilyn and John Crocker were sent for the summer to India and we were put in charge of fairly new twins. Geez, they were identical and weighed in like football linemen. Carrying them up the stairs to the Crocker's apartment was a living chore. In order to keep them identified, I marked their initials on their foreheads with permanent markers--of course, this is what made them so diddly dern smart. Look at them know. The next time you see them, look closely at their foreheads. Ah, I have so many other stories to tell, and I'll get to it soon. One is the greeting we received in the seminary hall while our son, Wesley, was getting mugged by the children in the courtyard. Another, is why they told us that all that we brought with us would be left overnight in the middle of the street. Whatever was left over was what we really would need for the duration. It really is a shame that was more myth than reality. I'll save that one for later, including the one about Richard Epson--a real honest-to-goodness colleague who caught the vision of the print-shop significance. Inner Peace, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: Paula Philbrook To: Order Ecumenical Community Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 8:51 AM Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Salmon: Question Richard Epson was 70's I remember him working on the Town Meeting program. Are you talking the print shop in the basement boiler room on the campus or down the street on 5th Avenue? I do not remember when we moved down the street but it was before 1969? On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 8:29 AM, James Wiegel <jfwiegel(a)yahoo.com> wrote: Did Michael Ware work in the printshop one quarter?? Jim Wiegel "The bad news is you're falling through the air, nothing to hang on to, no parachute. The good news is there's no ground." - Chögyam Trungpa Rinpoche 401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353-2401 +1 623-363-3277 skype: jfredwiegel jfwiegel(a)yahoo.com www.partnersinparticipation.com Upcoming public course opportunities: ToP Facilitation Methods, Sept 17-18, 2013 ToP Strategic Planning, Nov 5-6, 2013 The AZ Community of Practice meets the 1st Friday of each month 1-4 pm Facilitation Mastery : Our Mastering the Technology of Participation program is available in Phoenix in 2012-3. Current program began on Nov 14-16, 2012 See short video http://partnersinparticipation.com/?page_id=55 and website for further details. AICP Planners: 14.5 CM for all ToP courses On Sep 17, 2013, at 18:57, "William Salmon" <wsalmon(a)cox.net> wrote: Randy-- I know Bob Shropshire well, and the name Richard Epson (?) rings a bell softly. He was 5.7 and about 150 #. He had a great spirit about him. Can anyone help me out. I'll take this name under consideration. Thanks! Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: R Williams To: wsalmon(a)cox.net Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Salmon: Question Bill, The two who come to mind that it could have been are Bob Shropshire or maybe Richard Epson. Not real sure about that I have the second name right. Randy "A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they know they shall never sit." --Greek Proverb From: William Salmon <wsalmon(a)cox.net> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 3:44 PM Subject: [Oe List ...] Salmon: Question Beret-- If someone can tell me the name of a young black young adult (Order?) who worked in the Print Shop in the mid-1960's, I have a nice story to share. In addition, I'll send two or three others. Help, anyone? Bill Salmon ----- Original Message ----- From: Beret Griffith (Google Drive) To: Oe(a)wedgeblade.net Cc: dialogue(a)lists.wedgeblade.net Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 4:47 PM Subject: [Oe List ...] Archive History-Version 9.doc (Oe(a)wedgeblade.net) I've shared an item with you. Colleagues, Greetings from The Global Archives. Marge Philbrook has been the inspiration for documenting the history of The Global Archives.Your recollections of the archives are welcome and will be included. Anyone with memories of the print shops? We would like to add your stories and recollections, in addition to hearing about anyones experiences in the archives. Archive History-Version 9.doc Google Drive: create, share, and keep all your stuff in one place. _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net No virus found in this message. 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To Tim from Jaime
by Jaime R Vergara 19 Sep '13

19 Sep '13

Tim, this email has been compromised too many times. I will soon cancel it. Might you change my e*mail to wangzhimu2031(a)aol.com? Thanks. Jaime R Vergara j'aime la vie Yesterday, appreciate; tomorrow, anticipate; today, participate. In all, Celebrate!

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Salmon: Reply with apology [2/2]
by William Salmon 19 Sep '13

19 Sep '13

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Please reflect first..;.
by Marilyn Crocker 18 Sep '13

18 Sep '13

Hey there, Bill and Bev, I just caught up with what you wrote about memories re: 5thCity. I cannot comment on the earlier stories, but I can when we, as an Order, decided to make the turn to the world and launch the Summer 72 program at the new Kemper building. Im questioning what you described below is not at all the case. When our twins (born in Singapore) and by 1972 were two years old when Joe and I were assigned as staff for Summer 72. Joe and I were so delighted that you and Bev were their guardians for the summer. We experienced that they thrived while in the 5th city pre-school, and with you and Bev as Papa Bill and Mama Bev. At least that was what you and Bev reported to us in August of 1972. I cannot imagine why you would not only misrepresent where we (their parents) were not at all in India, but in the West Side of Chicago but would also demean our sons by suggesting that you would mark their foreheads admitting to something that I now see as akin to child molestation especially when I , their Mom, collected them from pre-school most days. What you have written below is shameful, Bill . Please, from now on ask yourself, Who might I malign by expostulating in such a fashion? Your colleague, Marilyn Later, Marilyn and John Crocker were sent for the summer to India and we were put in charge of fairly new twins. Geez, they were identical and weighed in lik Later, Marilyn and John Crocker were sent for the summer to India and we were put in charge of fairly new twins. Geez, they were identical and weighed in like football linemen. Carrying them up the stairs to the Crocker's apartment was a living chore. In order to keep them identified, I marked their initials on their foreheads with permanent markers--of course, this is what made them so diddly dern smart. Look at them know. The next time you see them, look closely at their foreheads. e football linemen. Carrying them up the stairs to the Crocker's apartment was a living chore. In order to keep them identified, I marked their initials on their foreheads with permanent markers--of course, this is what made them so diddly dern smart. Look at them know. The next time you see them, look closely at their foreheads. My other story about the basement is the first weekend of our internment. Beverly was assigned to paint the old gym, and I was assigned to Baby Care. I learn all about diaper songs, and feeding songs, and whatever else was necessary. Joe and I had From: oe-bounces(a)lists.wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of William Salmon Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 6:02 PM To: Order Ecumenical Community Subject: [Oe List ...] Salmon:A couple of stories Paula--The print shop I remember was down the street very near the The boiler room in the basement brings another memory or two. When preparing myself for an internship in June of 1972, I traveled to Chicago on recruiting trips for Kansas Wesleyan University. Before that job was over, I recruited one young 5th Citizen college student who came and made a educational name for herself. Unfortunately, I have trouble remembering names. Sometimes I forget that I'm married to Betty Sue, that is another story. I planned to stay over the weekend at the seminary, and I arrived in the early evening to park on the street in my school car--a brand new Chevy Impala. I entered the building through the Guard Shack to a follow wearing a gun. Others were busy charting! Since it was Friday evening, everyone was eating everywhere, including on the floor upon the dirtiest carpet I ever saw. The food was good though--especially the bread pudding. Later, they took me to my room in the basement in what was the coal bin. They gave me two clear sheets and a pillow (I think that is what they called it). There being no light, it was iffy in getting everything put together. Reveille was the traditional gong and spiritual phrase. My first meeting was with an old friend from Kansas--a pastor (not Philbrook) who later left the Order to serve a church in the Chicago suburbs. Damn him! He crushed my bubble big time, and then later he ran out on me. He asked me what I was doing, and I gave him my report of working for Kansas Wesleyan and beginning the Kansas Lake Ministry at 4 Kansas lakes. He looked through me and said, "Too bad you are not doing enough!" "What do you mean," I stammered? "Is what you are doing global and replicable?" That sold me right there. The rest of the weekend is lost to memory except for the Sunday afternoon Sacramental meal. I remember some colleague saying a pray on some subject, and Joseph interrupted him by saying, (in effect), "Don't listen to him, God. He doesn't know what he is talking about." After that my only concern was if my car survived or not. It did! Do Guardian Angels exist? Naw, just raw luck. My other story about the basement is the first weekend of our internment. Beverly was assigned to paint the old gym, and I was assigned to Baby Care. I learn all about diaper songs, and feeding songs, and whatever else was necessary. Later, Marilyn and John Crocker were sent for the summer to India and we were put in charge of fairly new twins. Geez, they were identical and weighed in like football linemen. Carrying them up the stairs to the Crocker's apartment was a living chore. In order to keep them identified, I marked their initials on their foreheads with permanent markers--of course, this is what made them so diddly dern smart. Look at them know. The next time you see them, look closely at their foreheads. Ah, I have so many other stories to tell, and I'll get to it soon. One is the greeting we received in the seminary hall while our son, Wesley, was getting mugged by the children in the courtyard. Another, is why they told us that all that we brought with us would be left overnight in the middle of the street. Whatever was left over was what we really would need for the duration. It really is a shame that was more myth than reality. I'll save that one for later, including the one about Richard Epson--a real honest-to-goodness colleague who caught the vision of the print-shop significance. Inner Peace, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: <mailto:paula.philbrook@gmail.com> Paula Philbrook To: <mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> Order Ecumenical Community Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 8:51 AM Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Salmon: Question Richard Epson was 70's I remember him working on the Town Meeting program. Are you talking the print shop in the basement boiler room on the campus or down the street on 5th Avenue? I do not remember when we moved down the street but it was before 1969? On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 8:29 AM, James Wiegel <jfwiegel(a)yahoo.com> wrote: Did Michael Ware work in the printshop one quarter?? Jim Wiegel The bad news is youre falling through the air, nothing to hang on to, no parachute. The good news is theres no ground. - Chögyam Trungpa Rinpoche 401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353-2401 +1 623-363-3277 <tel:%2B1%20623-363-3277> skype: jfredwiegel jfwiegel(a)yahoo.com www.partnersinparticipation.com Upcoming public course opportunities: ToP Facilitation Methods, Sept 17-18, 2013 ToP Strategic Planning, Nov 5-6, 2013 The AZ Community of Practice meets the 1st Friday of each month 1-4 pm Facilitation Mastery : Our Mastering the Technology of Participation program is available in Phoenix in 2012-3. Current program began on Nov 14-16, 2012 See short video http://partnersinparticipation.com/?page_id=55 and website for further details. AICP Planners: 14.5 CM for all ToP courses On Sep 17, 2013, at 18:57, "William Salmon" <wsalmon(a)cox.net> wrote: Randy-- I know Bob Shropshire well, and the name Richard Epson (?) rings a bell softly. He was 5.7 and about 150 #. He had a great spirit about him. Can anyone help me out. I'll take this name under consideration. Thanks! Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: <mailto:rcwmbw@yahoo.com> R Williams To: <mailto:wsalmon@cox.net> wsalmon(a)cox.net Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Salmon: Question Bill, The two who come to mind that it could have been are Bob Shropshire or maybe Richard Epson. Not real sure about that I have the second name right. Randy "A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they know they shall never sit." --Greek Proverb From: William Salmon < <mailto:wsalmon@cox.net> wsalmon(a)cox.net> To: Order Ecumenical Community < <mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 3:44 PM Subject: [Oe List ...] Salmon: Question Beret-- If someone can tell me the name of a young black young adult (Order?) who worked in the Print Shop in the mid-1960's, I have a nice story to share. In addition, I'll send two or three others. Help, anyone? Bill Salmon ----- Original Message ----- From: <mailto:beretgriffith@gmail.com> Beret Griffith (Google Drive) To: <mailto:Oe@wedgeblade.net> Oe(a)wedgeblade.net Cc: <mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> dialogue(a)lists.wedgeblade.net Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 4:47 PM Subject: [Oe List ...] Archive History-Version 9.doc ( <mailto:Oe@wedgeblade.net> Oe(a)wedgeblade.net) I've shared an item with you. Colleagues, Greetings from The Global Archives. Marge Philbrook has been the inspiration for documenting the history of The Global Archives.Your recollections of the archives are welcome and will be included. Anyone with memories of the print shops? We would like to add your stories and recollections, in addition to hearing about anyones experiences in the archives. <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1f3iDOBwKD9H4k54g3aj_0in78L7eKOr66Kxbe2F S-4o/edit?usp=sharing&invite=CNOF_YoC> Archive History-Version 9.doc Google Drive: create, share, and keep all your stuff in one place. <https://drive.google.com/> _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net <https://drive.google.com/> No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com/ Version: 2013.0.3408 / Virus Database: 3222/6672 - Release Date: 09/16/13 <https://drive.google.com/> _______________________________________________OE mailing listOE@lists.wedgeblade.nethttp://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedge blade.net <https://drive.google.com/> No virus found in this message. 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