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Memories
by Lawrence Philbrook 09 Jun '12

09 Jun '12

Several years ago I was able to go to New Zealand and share with our colleagues their at a Maori Marai, the opening ritual was a song and story to communicate your connection to each other, to the land, the sea and the mountain. For me it was especially powerful since I have spent so much of my life with colleagues from Australia and New Zealand and the opportunity to sing with them and to them. I am sorry I have not spoken to the earlier deaths it has felt like so many, I feel unable to articulate how much each person has meant to me in my life. Each will be missed and each represents songs and stories that echo through my life and our lives. As for Frank, my first memory of Frank was when I was 10 and he and Aimee were with the children on the west side for breakfast or dinner Aimee was joy and light and Frank was large and serious, and a little frightening to me. In 1972, Frank taught with me on the last RSI i remember teaching. I was 18 and in Washington DC I think. He was the first teacher and I was probably third. I do not remember anything about the course except spending the evening with Frank in a bar talking about the life I was choosing. Robert Shropshire i knew only briefly in the sense of time, he had a gift of sharing and transforming. In my academy we were assigned to work together to prepare and then he was my teacher. He had a way of communicating that was at one humorous and piercing to the core of the issue. I will miss them both and they will both be with me forever. With love and respect, Larry Lawrence Philbrook, Certified ToP Facilitator Director, Institute of Cultural Affairs Taiwan www.icatw.com Tel: 8862-2871-3150 Fax: 8862-2871-2870 Skype: icalarry President ICA International/ Member Global Leadership Team ICAI Office c/o ICA Canada, 655 Queen Street East Toronto, ON. M4M 1G4 Canada www.ica-international.org

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Hack job.
by R Williams 08 Jun '12

08 Jun '12

Just wanted to let everyone know my email has been hacked. I will never send anything with (no subject) in the subject line. Sorry for the inconvenience. "Listen to what is emerging from yourself to the course of being in the world; not to be supported by it, but to bring it to reality as it desires." -Martin Buber (adapted)

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by R Williams 08 Jun '12

08 Jun '12

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by R Williams 08 Jun '12

08 Jun '12

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Re: [Oe List ...] Being Black in the Order Ecumenical
by Jayandem2＠aol.com 08 Jun '12

08 Jun '12

I just got back to reading this listserve. Judith usually lets me know what is going on with it. (She is doing much better, but is still in a rehab starting to walk) I was able to sort out all the "Being Black..." emails and read them in chronological order - all 61 of them. What a profound experience, following our journey. Thanks to all who responded. Grace and Peace, Mike Tippett

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Re: [Oe List ...] Being Black in the Order Ecumenical
by W. J. 07 Jun '12

07 Jun '12

I was surprised that the question about what it was like to be black in the O:E really was not addressed by black colleagues. Instead it became a conversation in which white people TALKED about black people, remembering their names and unique contributions. We didn't really articulate how critical black order members were/are to bailing us all out of our unconscious cultural reductionisms. I write, of course, as one of the "pinkies" who showed up in 5th City after the 1968 riots. It was absolutely essential that black colleagues in the community and in the Order gave their permission for us crazy white people to stay in 5th City. They claimed us as colleagues, they put up with us, they protected us, and they confronted us with our unconscious embodiment of white male privilege and racism. They grounded us in the experience of suffering in the community and joined with us in working to transcend the internalized racist stereotypes we were all struggling with. I suspect people of color in the Order had an often unacknowledged burden to bear in dealing with white male dominance. It wasn't just that people of color were just as totally on top of everything as the white male leadership was (in other words, comfortable operating with the rational gifts of the white Ur). More importantly, coming from another profound experience of humanness, these colleagues often surprised us in their freedom from being stuck in "white man's consciousness", so to speak. I'm trying to get beyond being yet another white person talking about black people. Several years ago I had the privilege of working with Lela Mosley, Ruth Carter, and Verdell Trice in getting the 5th City film released on DVD. Lela was at the end of her days, in and out of the hospital, and on oxygen, but she could sometimes talk with me on the phone. We were going over a list of deceased 5th Citizens whose contributions would be honored on the DVD. I would say, "What about So-and-so? Is she dead yet?" And Lela would say, "No, she's still kicking!" We would laugh. And it was kind of funny, you know, just to be standing in the Awe of all those people who had decided to give their lives in that geography. Not that they were black or white, economically advantaged or not. OR: In the Order. Or not. You get that? No difference (despite the difference). I tell you we will be highly privileged to join that company of 5th City Pioneers some day. Joe Mathews said that what he was most proud of was being a 5th Citizen. Not of being the Dean of this crummy outfit called the Order. But (I would say) of standing his ground and being his "be" with the profound humanness we discovered and celebrated in 5th City. And if I can have just a tiny taste of that in my privileged white man's life, and if I was able to add just the smallest bit to the 'miracles' that we all participated in creating together, I think that would be enough for me. Marshall Jones

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6/07/12, Spong: "Think Different-Accept Uncertainty" Part XI: Beginning a Probe of the Miracles Attributed to Jesus
by Ellie Stock 07 Jun '12

07 Jun '12

HOMEPAGE MY PROFILE ESSAY ARCHIVE MESSAGE BOARDS CALENDAR "Think Different-Accept Uncertainty" Part XI: Beginning a Probe of the Miracles Attributed to Jesus Deconstruction is always easier to do than reconstruction, but it is not nearly so important. It is never enough to say who or what Christ is not, but we must move on to say who or what Christ is. The task is complicated, however, by the very fact that the Jesus story, as related in the gospels, has been literalized for so long that breaking through the literal window to establish some new possibilities is quite difficult. This is especially true when we realize that the old mindset, no matter how dated or nonsensical it is, is nonetheless reasserted in the hymns we sing, in the prayers we pray in our liturgies and in the sermons we hear in church every Sunday. All of these activities assume a pre-modern frame of reference that most educated men and women today simply can no longer affirm. So I have to approach this task piecemeal, week by week, in order to lay the groundwork for a radically different perspective. There is no silver bullet of understanding that can be fired to create in us this new point of view. So, today I will begin a unit in the series “Think Different-Accept Uncertainty” that will look at the miracle stories in the gospel narratives. Did the miracles really happen? If they did, do they still happen? If they did once, but no longer happen why did they cease? As one person tried to explain, “Perhaps ‘the age of miracles’ is over.” To which I need to respond, “Perhaps there never was an ‘age of miracles’ and the things we once called miracles are now understood in a very different way.” Those are the possibilities. I begin this unit by probing the level of reality that still remains among my readers in regard to the miracles recorded in the New Testament. I ask each of you to do a test just with yourself, aimed at discovering whether or not you really believe that miracles can or did happen? Here are the questions: Can a star really wander through the sky so slowly that wise men can keep up with it? Can that star really stop in its journey, first over the palace of King Herod for the wise men to get additional directions and then over the house in Bethlehem where the baby Jesus lives with his mother? Can a virgin conceive? Are there really angels that can break through the midnight sky to sing, presumably in Aramaic, the only language that the shepherds understood, about the birth of Jesus? Could these angels really send these shepherds in search of this child, armed with only two clues: he would be “wrapped in swaddling clothes” and he would be “lying in a manger?” Do you think that anyone can literally walk on water? Do you believe that anyone can feed a multitude of 5,000 men, plus women and children, with five loaves and two fish? Can one curse a fig tree and cause that tree to wither down to its roots and die? Can one still a storm by speaking to it and commanding it to cease its fury? Can one raise from the dead a man named Lazarus, who has not only been dead for four days, but who has also already been buried? Can a blind man be made to see by the laying on of hands or the anointing of the eyes with clay? Why did this procedure not work in one gospel episode until there were two applications? Is it any harder to bring sight to a blind man if he was born blind? Can the mentally ill or those suffering from epilepsy be cured by casting out the demons that cause them to be other than “normal”? Can the mute be enabled to hear and to speak if the healer can only get Satan to stop binding the tongue of the victim? Can a withered hand be restored to fullness of operation or a man crippled for 38 years be enabled to walk by another’s command? Can water be turned into wine to keep a wedding party going? Why was it necessary, as the Bible states, to create on that occasion 150 gallons of wine? All of these are questions that arise from actual stories that are included in the gospels and all of them are attributed to Jesus. Did any of them literally happen? If you are convinced that all of them happened, can you explain how those feats were accomplished? If they did not literally happen, what does that do to our understanding of Jesus? Is the concept of God as an invasive, supernatural force necessary to the maintenance and certainty of the Christian story? Does Christianity really live or die, as many claim, on the one supreme, supernatural event that all the gospels record as the climax of their narratives, namely, that a man dead from sundown on Friday, is restored to physical life by Sunday morning in such a way that he could walk out of his tomb and invite his followers to handle his flesh and even to finger his wounds? Many people cannot imagine Christianity surviving without these things being literally true. Many other people cannot imagine any of these things ever being literally true. That is the dilemma facing Christianity today. Believers become more and more literal and fundamentalist, while those who cannot and do not believe any of these things can find no place in the life of the church for them and have no desire to continue as part of a worshiping community that pretends that these things really happened. So how can we understand miracles and how can we understand the role they played in the original telling the Christian story? That will be our task in this series over the next few weeks. First, some biblical observations. There is no unanimity in the New Testament about most of these miracle accounts. For example, there are only two miraculous events that all four gospels record. Gospel unanimity exists only on the resurrection of Jesus and the expansion of the loaves and fishes to feed the multitude. Yet when one looks at the texts of each of the gospels the details surrounding both of these narratives vary enormously. In regard to the resurrection, Mark, the earliest gospel to be written, has a messenger instruct the women at the tomb to tell the disciples that the risen Christ will meet them in Galilee. None of the women ever sees Jesus in this first gospel and Mark records no account of Jesus ever meeting with the disciples in Galilee. So in Mark no one ever actually sees the risen Christ. In Matthew the women are said to have seen the risen Christ quite literally in the garden on Easter morning and the disciples, or at least eleven of them, were said to have seen him on a mountain top in Galilee. In Luke the women do not see him at the tomb on Easter morning and no disciple ever sees him in Galilee. Then Luke says that two disciples, but not members of the twelve, see him in Emmaus, but he disappears into thin air. Later the twelve do see but only in Jerusalem. When we turn to John we read that Mary Magdalene alone sees the risen Christ at dawn on the first Easter and then the disciples, minus Judas and Thomas, see him in the upper room in Jerusalem at the time of the evening meal. In both instances, this gospel tells us that they conversed with him. A week later, John writes that the disciples see him again this time with Thomas. Finally, months later, John says seven of the disciples see him in Galilee, but not on top of a mountain as Matthew claimed, but beside the Sea of Galilee. There is no consistency in the details of these sightings. In regard to the stories of the miraculous feeding of the multitude, Mark and Matthew give us two versions. The first one has 5,000 people fed with five loaves and two fish, the second has 4,000 people fed with seven loaves and a few fish. Each feeding takes place on a different side of the lake. Luke and John reduce the feedings to one. There is, thus, no gospel unanimity in this episode either. Then to complicate the picture still further, Luke alone has Jesus raise a widow’s only son from the dead. John alone has Jesus turn water into wine. The witness of the gospels to the reality of miracles is thus far more confused and ambivalent than most Christians realize and more than most of them can believe when it is spelled out for them. We add to that complex analysis the fact that as far as we are able to discover or to read no miracle was ever associated with Jesus before the 8th decade when Mark’s gospel came to be written in the early seventies. Paul, who wrote between 51 and 64, never mentions a miracle in association with Jesus. The Q document and the Gospel of Thomas, which some, but not all, scholars believe might be pre-Marcan sources, do not mention a miracle being associated with Jesus. The Virgin Birth does not enter the Christian tradition until the 9th decade of the Christian era or some 55-60 years after his death. The physical resuscitation of the deceased body of Jesus as the way resurrection is to be understood does not enter the tradition until the 10th decade or some 60-70 years after his crucifixion. These are the factual data about the miracles of the New Testament. It is not the stable picture that believers claim and that skeptics reject. It is also not a simple study. This is enough, however, to raise the subject to our consciousness, to allow it to play upon our minds and our imaginations, to stimulate our interest. I also hope it is enough to bring you back to this column in succeeding weeks when we begin to unravel this material. So stay tuned! Same time, same place! ~John Shelby Spong Read the essay online here. Bishop Spong's Summer Session at the Pacific School of Religion! Re-Claiming the Bible in a Post-Christian World Instructor: John Shelby Spong Dates and Times: One week: July 16-20, 9am - 1pm Description: Can the Bible, written 2000-3000 years ago, speak in any meaningful way to the 21st century? If it cannot, then is Christianity at an end? If it can, will Christianity look anything like what we have known in the past? Since creeds and doctrines are all constructed on the basis of what was believed to be "Biblical Truth," can any of the current formularies stand? Since liturgy is based on biblical definitions of sin, salvation and God, none of which make much sense to 21st century people, can Christianity tolerate the revolution that it faces? This class will be taught by one who has been a priest and bishop for 56 years with one foot in the institutional church and the other in the academic world of new insights. It is specifically designed for clergy and questing lay people. Course Credits & Cost: 1.5 credits - $990; audit - $495; 2.0 CEUs - $350 Course Number: BS-2117 (credit); BS-0003 (CEUs) Required Text: John Shelby Spong, Re-Claiming the Bible for a Non-Religious World, 2011 HarperCollins, San Francisco. Purchase here. Syllabus: Re-Claiming the Bible in a Post-Christian World Register Question & Answer Gretchen from Seattle, Washington, writes: Question: The scholar philosopher, Thomas Aquinas, defined God as the “Uncaused Cause” and “the Prime Mover.” I keep wondering what came before the Big Bang – what do you think? Answer: Dear Gretchen, When I get this kind of question, I wonder first, what makes anyone think that another person in any walk of life has the capacity to answer it! Second, I wonder why anyone would think that even if this question were answerable that it made any difference. Who do you suppose was present to record the beginning of history before the “Big Bang?” How did that person communicate his or her findings? In what language was this narrative recorded? To which other person was the story passed on so that the record was kept alive? I suppose it is flattering for me to think that you attribute such a capacity to me. For the record, however, let me say that the “Big Bang” is now estimated to have occurred somewhere between 13.7 and 13.8 billion years ago. Life made it first appearance on this planet earth about 3.8 billion years ago. Human-like creatures did not arrive on this planet until about four million years ago and self-conscious, fully human life may be no older than 100,000 to 250,000 years. To go beyond these few known facts about the origins of the universe is little more than idle speculation. Astro-physicists now believe they can get within the first minute after the “Big Bang,” but no one can venture beyond the Big Bang, since both time and space result from that moment also. I am reminded, however, of a story, apocryphal I’m sure, told about St. Augustine, the Bishop of Hippo, in Northern Africa (and probably about other particularly wise men and women). Someone is supposed to have asked him what God was doing before God created the world. His answer was that God was creating hell for people who ask questions like that! Enjoy the present and do not worry about how you got here. You will be a happier person because of it. ~John Shelby Spong Announcements Read what Bishop Spong has to say about A Joyful Path Progressive Christian Spiritual Curriculum for Young Hearts and Minds: "The great need in the Christian church is for a Sunday school curriculum for children that does not equate faith with having a pre-modern mind. The Center for Progressive Christianity has produced just that. Teachers can now teach children in Sunday school without crossing their fingers. I endorse it wholeheartedly." 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Fwd: Sarah's Poetry Book
by Sarah H. Buss 06 Jun '12

06 Jun '12

Cost yet to confirm but probably about $12 plus tax (in Tx), shipping, and handling. 184 pages. See below. Sarah Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > From: Sarah Buss <shbuss(a)mac.com> > Date: June 5, 2012 2:10:55 PM CDT > To: "Sarah H. Buss" <shbuss(a)mac.com> > Subject: Sarah's Poetry Book > > To Friends, > > Finally I have a poetry book in the works. It will be a private, limited edition at this stage. If you are interested in a copy, send the following information to my email address shb.poetry(a)gmail.com by 11:00AM, June 11 so that I can include you in the count: > > Name > Address > Telephone Number > Email Address > > I will be in touch but I have physical limitations so it may be awkward and inefficient at times. If you have a question, phone rather than email. You can phone me mid-morning or late afternoon CST. I can receive but cannot respond to emails. > > Thanks for your interest and understanding, > > Sarah > 512-899-2500

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Re: [Oe List ...] Undocumented immigrants
by KarenBueno＠aol.com 05 Jun '12

05 Jun '12

Thanks, Jack. We have been working here in Denver for the last hear and a half to begin a JFON clinic. We plan to hold our first clinic in May, 2013. I'm glad to hear that you are acquainted with that program. Karen Bueno In a message dated 6/5/2012 6:56:07 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, ballardica(a)gmail.com writes: Hi Jan. The United Methodist Church has been working for many years through the "Justice For Our Neighbors" (JFON) program which provides free high quality legal aid to undocumented immigrants, when possible, advocacy and education programs. Here is the link to their website: _www.gbgm-umc.org/umcor/work/immigration/jfon_ (http://www.gbgm-umc.org/umcor/work/immigration/jfon) . There should be plenty of information at this website for your workshop. I volunteer with JFON in the Baltimore-Washington Conference. If you have more questions after visiting the website don't hesitate to contact me (_ballardica(a)gmail.com_ (mailto:ballardica@gmail.com) ). Good Luck, Grace & Peace, Jack Ballard -----Original Message----- From: oe-bounces(a)lists.wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net]On Behalf Of KarenBueno(a)aol.com Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 6:05 PM To: oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net; dialogue(a)lists.wedgeblade.net Subject: [Oe List ...] Undocumented immigrants What are you all thinking about undocumented immigrants these days? I have been given the opportunity to lead 15 minutes of a workshop on immigration for some 500 lay people of Rocky Mountain United Methodist Annual Conference in Denver next week. Many will be those in the ranks of "just send 'em all back" persuasion. Any pertinent points I should be sure to speak about? Karen Bueno Here's a new item: June 5, 2012 - Press release Undocumented Youth Risk Arrest in Denver to Demand Executive Order at Obama Office 'Coming out' action in Denver DENVER – Undocumented immigrant youth walking from San Francisco to Washington, D.C. will protest outside of the Obama campaign office today on 9th Avenue. They will ask that his administration stop the deportations of DREAM Act-eligible youth by signing an executive order. “With Deportations on the rise and Secure Communities recently implemented in the state of Colorado, We cannot just sit back and wait!” said Veronica Gomez, an undocumented student with Campaign for an American Dream (CAD), which is walking across the country to raise awareness about immigrant rights. “The immigrant community in Colorado needs to know that we have a voice in this country, that we are not criminals, and we deserve a pathway to legalization.” CAD, along with the group Colorado, Organize, Resist, Escalate (COORE) will deliver a letter to the Obama Campaign office followed by a “Coming out of the Shadows” rally where undocumented immigrants will publicly declare their status. “If they want the Latino vote in Colorado, they must show the community what they are doing for us. We are asking them to stop the deportation of all DREAM eligible youth!” said Javier Hernandez, an undocumented immigrant living in Colorado and member of COORE. Despite the memo authored by Immigration and Customs Enforcement Director John Morton explaining that ICE is supposed to focus its resources on deporting criminals, DREAM-eligible youth are being put in deportation proceedings nationwide. We need the strength of an executive order to stop our deportations. ### CAD’s mission is to walk across the nation from San Francisco to D.C creating dialogue around the passage of the DREAM Act and fixing our broken immigration system with the values of equality, unity, and diversity. CAD believe’s all people are equal, all those who are oppressed should be united, and our daily lives and the Campaign itself highlight diversity. http://thedreamwalk.org _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net

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Undocumented immigrants
by KarenBueno＠aol.com 05 Jun '12

05 Jun '12

What are you all thinking about undocumented immigrants these days? I have been given the opportunity to lead 15 minutes of a workshop on immigration for some 500 lay people of Rocky Mountain United Methodist Annual Conference in Denver next week. Many will be those in the ranks of "just send 'em all back" persuasion. Any pertinent points I should be sure to speak about? Karen Bueno Here's a new item: June 5, 2012 - Press release Undocumented Youth Risk Arrest in Denver to Demand Executive Order at Obama Office 'Coming out' action in Denver DENVER – Undocumented immigrant youth walking from San Francisco to Washington, D.C. will protest outside of the Obama campaign office today on 9th Avenue. They will ask that his administration stop the deportations of DREAM Act-eligible youth by signing an executive order. “With Deportations on the rise and Secure Communities recently implemented in the state of Colorado, We cannot just sit back and wait!” said Veronica Gomez, an undocumented student with Campaign for an American Dream (CAD), which is walking across the country to raise awareness about immigrant rights. “The immigrant community in Colorado needs to know that we have a voice in this country, that we are not criminals, and we deserve a pathway to legalization.” CAD, along with the group Colorado, Organize, Resist, Escalate (COORE) will deliver a letter to the Obama Campaign office followed by a “Coming out of the Shadows” rally where undocumented immigrants will publicly declare their status. “If they want the Latino vote in Colorado, they must show the community what they are doing for us. We are asking them to stop the deportation of all DREAM eligible youth!” said Javier Hernandez, an undocumented immigrant living in Colorado and member of COORE. Despite the memo authored by Immigration and Customs Enforcement Director John Morton explaining that ICE is supposed to focus its resources on deporting criminals, DREAM-eligible youth are being put in deportation proceedings nationwide. We need the strength of an executive order to stop our deportations. ### CAD’s mission is to walk across the nation from San Francisco to D.C creating dialogue around the passage of the DREAM Act and fixing our broken immigration system with the values of equality, unity, and diversity. CAD believe’s all people are equal, all those who are oppressed should be united, and our daily lives and the Campaign itself highlight diversity. http://thedreamwalk.org

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