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1/10/13, Spong: The Birth of Jesus, Part VII. The Role of Ruth: The Seductress
by Ellie Stock 10 Jan '13

10 Jan '13

HOMEPAGE MY PROFILE ESSAY ARCHIVE MESSAGE BOARDS CALENDAR The Birth of Jesus, Part VII. The Role of Ruth: The Seductress The third woman mentioned in Matthew’s genealogy of Jesus is also unique in a number of ways. Her name is Ruth and she, like Rahab, is a foreigner. Rahab was a Canaanite citizen of Jericho. Ruth was a Moabite, and the widow of a Jewish man named Mahlon. Her story is found in the tiny book that bears her name that is nestled in the Hebrew Scriptures between Judges and I Samuel. It is a dramatic tale involving some unfamiliar Jewish practices that are strange to us today, but that made sense in terms of the Jewish values of that day, rooted as they were in both tribal and patriarchal assumptions. Listen first to the story. It was around the year 1100 BCE when a time of famine produced a down turn in the Hebrew economy. Elimelech, a citizen of Bethlehem, his wife Naomi and their two sons, Mahlon and Chilion, moved to the land of Moab in search of work, food and survival. Soon thereafter, Elimelech died leaving Naomi with her two sons, strangers and aliens in a foreign land. The two sons then assumed the care of their mother and settled into their life in Moab, living there for about ten years, during which time they even took Moabite women to be their wives. Mahlon married Ruth and Chilion married Orpah. Then tragedy struck once again when both Mahlon and Chilion died, leaving the remaining members a very vulnerable family of three widows, women who had no male support and no male protection. This patriarchal society had not developed any way of enabling lone women to care for themselves outside the protective structure provided by a father, a husband or a son. “An independent woman” was an unimaginable category. Hebrew law, therefore, required that women who are alone be cared for by the nearest male kinsman in the family. Normally this meant that the next oldest brother in the family must take the widow of his deceased brother as his wife. In the case of Naomi, Orpah and Ruth, however, there were no younger brothers and, with Naomi being of post-menopausal age, there was no chance of ever producing any. Nothing was more fragile or tragic in this society than a woman who had no father, no husband and no son. She thus fell out of the social safety net, which that society had built to care for the vulnerable. The next level of support was to identify the male, who was simply the closest of kin and to turn all of her assets over to him. This included his taking the widowed woman to be his wife, or at least a member of his harem, for which he had responsibility and for which he assumed sexual privileges with the stated hope of raising up children to the deceased male. As long as this fragile trio of women lived in the land of Moab, there was no male closest of kin. Naomi, facing this reality, called her two daughters-in-law to her and told them that she was moving back to the land of the Jews, presumably to Bethlehem. She instructed the young widows to do the only thing left open to them. She told them to return to their families and to the protection of their fathers. That was a demeaning act as these widows would from then on be considered “damaged goods.” They would be unable to contract another “proper” marriage. Perhaps some men could be found to take them, but prospects were bleak; not as bleak, however, as what they faced as a family of three vulnerable women living alone. Orpah accepted that option and returned to her family, disappearing from this story forever. Ruth, however, declined and informed Naomi that she would go with her back to the land of the Jews, that she did not want to leave her mother-in-law alone and that together they would face the hardship that both knew awaited them. In one of the most beautiful passages in this book, Ruth says words that have been set to music today and we know them as “The Song of Ruth,” “Entreat me not to leave you or to return from following you; for where you go, I will go; where you lodge, I will lodge; your people shall be my people and your God shall be my God, where you die, I will die and there will I be buried.” (Ruth 1:16-17) This song of Ruth is frequently sung at weddings as the bride and groom stare deeply into each other’s eyes.. I wonder how many couples would choose this music if they knew that originally it was Ruth’s song sung to her mother-in-law! The two single women then returned to Bethlehem and began their struggle for survival. It was the time of the beginning of the barley harvest. Naomi plotted her strategy. She was aware that her husband, Elimelech, had a kinsman named Boaz, who owned much land in the Bethlehem area. She thus settled into a humble dwelling near the fields of her husband’s distant relative. Jewish law also required that the reapers should not seek to harvest every grain of barley, but that some should be left in the field to be gleaned by the poor. Each day Ruth went into these fields to gather the grain the reapers had missed. She brought it home, ground it and baked it into a barley cake sufficient to keep Naomi and herself from starving. Her faithful caring for Naomi was noticed. Boaz inquired of her identity and learned that she was Naomi’s Moabite daughter-in-law, that she had asked permission to glean in the field behind the reapers and that she had gathered the scanty remains from sunup to sundown without resting. Inspired by this example, Boaz spoke to Ruth, telling her not to gather grain in any other fields and gave her access to water drawn by the young men for the workers in the field. He ordered the young men not to molest her. Ruth thanked Boaz for his kindness, inquiring as to why he was so gracious to a foreigner. Boaz replied that her faithfulness in the care of Naomi had inspired him and revealed that he had been told of the death of Ruth’s husband and of her willingness to leave her own people in order to care for Naomi. Boaz then instructed the reapers to leave some of the sheaves that they had gathered for her to glean. When Ruth told Naomi about the kindness of the man who owned the fields, Naomi was pleased that the trap she was setting was about to be sprung. She waited until the harvest season was over before she put her plan into operation. Naomi shared with Ruth that Boaz was a distant relative of Elimelech, her father-in-law, and thus of Mahlon, Ruth’s husband. He thus had a social responsibility to care for her. When the reaping was over, Boaz and his workers would celebrate at the threshing floor and Ruth would attend that celebration. She prepared carefully, she bathed, she anointed herself with perfume, she put on her best dress and off she went. Naomi instructed her that she was not to make herself known until the man had finished eating and drinking. The text says until “his heart was merry.” The wine flowed freely that evening and by midnight Boaz, now well drunk, lay down on the floor and went to sleep. Ruth came over to him, placed a pillow under his head and covered him with a blanket. Then the text says she “uncovered his feet,” and lay down at his feet. In the scriptures the word “feet” was a euphemism for the male genitals. The fact is that Ruth undressed him and climbed under the blanket with him. This was an overt act of seduction. When Boaz awakened at the dawn’s first shaft of light, he found this woman under the blanket with him. He had no idea who she was or what he might have done in his drunken stupor, and so he spoke to her. “Who are you?” He asked. She replied: I am Ruth, you are my next of kin. Marry me!” Boaz pretended to be flattered that she had not gone after a younger man, but he was not quite ready to accept this new responsibility. There was one other, he said, who was a closer kinsman to her husband than he. He would have to speak to him first. It seems this other man had the right of first refusal. Boaz went to meet with him, telling Ruth not to let it be known “that a woman came to the threshing floor.” He then gave Ruth “six measures of barley,” perhaps it was payment for her “night’s work” and he went off to the city. Ruth reported back to Naomi with this grain and Naomi rejoiced. Her plan had clearly worked. Boaz, gathering ten men of the city to serve as witnesses, met with this nearest kinsman and the negotiations proceeded. Boaz informed this man that Ruth, Mahlon’s widow, has returned from Moab and that she has a parcel of land that belonged to Mahlon’s father, our kinsman, Elimelech. You, as the nearest of kin, have first refusal. Will you redeem this land? If not, I am next in line. The nearest of kin agreed to redeem it. Then Boaz said that is fine, but you need to know the day you take over this field, you are also agreeing to care for Naomi, Elimelech’s widow, and to take Mahlon’s widow, Ruth, to be your wife and to raise up children to her deceased husband. That was a sticky wicket. He would then have to include any children he might have with Ruth among those who would inherit his estate. So he declined. “I cannot redeem it,” he said, “Lest I impair my own children’s inheritance.” So, in the presence of the elders, he renounced his claim. The decision was affirmed in the traditional way of exchanging a sandal. Boaz then was authorized to buy the parcel, to become heir of all that belonged to Elimelech, Mahlon and Chilion. He would care for Naomi and Ruth would become his wife so that the name of Mahlon would not be cut off in the land. The elders saluted Boaz and said, “May your house be like the house of Perez, whom Tamar bore to Judah.” thus linking these two stories. Boaz and Ruth had a son whose name was Obed. When Obed reached maturity, he had a son named Jesse. Jesse in turn grew up and had a son named David, who became the great king of the Hebrew nation. Ruth was thus the great grandmother of King David. Matthew incorporated Ruth into the genealogy of Jesus that served as his prologue to the introduction of the first account of Jesus’ miraculous birth, In that genealogy, Matthew is saying the line that produced Jesus of Nazareth flowed through the incest of Tamar, the harlotry of Rahab and the seduction of Ruth. It also proclaimed that Moabite blood flowed in the veins of the Jewish King David, thus countering all of the claims of racial purity made for the Royal House of David. One more woman will appear in Matthew’s genealogy. We will turn to her story when this series continues, but surely by now we should be asking what Matthew’s purpose is; what is his agenda that he has chosen to introduce the Virgin Birth story in this way? ~JSS Read the essay online here. Question & Answer Jan Weston from Morrow, Ohio, writes: Question: I know that you are invited to Unity Village, Lee's Summit, Missouri, on occasions. I think I have read a comment from you saying that Unity was a positive resource for the future understanding of faith. My wife and I have regularly attended a Unity congregation until recently. I had searched to see if you had written anything in regards to interpreting scripture metaphysically and could not find any articles. I would like to know in more detail your feelings of the strengths and weaknesses as you see it in Unity thought. Also, any suggestions for a resource other than the Metaphysical Bible Dictionary and Charles Fillmore's The Revealing Word: A Dictionary of Metaphysical Terms. I look forward every Thursday to receiving your articles. Answer: Dear Jan, Thank you for your letter. I have had the pleasure of being at Lee’s Summit on several occasions and have spoken in perhaps as many as 200 Unity Churches across the nation. I find the Unity Movement exciting and open. It is not, however, their metaphysical interpretation of the scriptures that impresses me so much as it is their insistence on seeing religion as an asset to wholeness. They simply are not into sin, original or otherwise. The traditional Christian message, which is rooted in the theology of Augustine in the Fourth century and expanded by Anselm in the twelfth century, is based on the assumption that human life began as perfection, only to fall into sin and, therefore, it needed to be rescued, saved or redeemed. So Jesus is presented as savior, redeemer or rescuer. By defining Jesus in this way, we also inevitably define human life as fallen or lost. I think that is an incorrect description of the origins of human life and any theological system based on that primary assumption will inevitably contribute to the destruction not the enhancement of human life. We human beings are not fallen sinners so much as we are creatures evolving toward some future destiny. We have never been perfect, we have never fallen and we do not need to be saved. When it comes to interpreting the Bible, a metaphysical approach was adopted by the founders of Unity because that gave them a way out of the necessity for reading the Bible literally and at that time very little else was then available to them at that time to accomplish this task. The Bible was never meant to be read literally, but that was nonetheless the pattern that the church applied to the Bible over the centuries. If we shatter the hold literalism has on scripture, we have many options open to us for reading the Bible non-literally. Metaphysically is one of them and that was the method chosen by Unity. I see it as one among many ways to approach the scriptures. My own study, however, has led me to a rather different approach. I seek to go to the origins of the text, examine the historical circumstances, which produced that material in the first place and then try to discover the experiences that lie behind the biblical explanations. It is that experience which makes contact with my human experience today. For example, all four of the gospels reflect the Jewish-Roman War from 66-73 CE, during which the city of Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 CE. The gospels all assume this event and their message is even shaped by it, even though they each purport to write about a life that was crucified in 30 CE, two to three generations before Jerusalem’s fall. In a similar way, much of the Old Testament reflects the division of the Hebrew nation into two competitive states, Judah and Israel, which occurred around the year 929 BCE, yet that fact is written into the story of the patriarchs who lived some 700 to 900 years before this split took place. The point of this is to force us to face the fact that what we have called “the word of god” is a quite human book and a very subjective one. That is the kind of wrestling with the text that opens to me the doors through which I feel compelled to walk in the confidence that this approach will yield the meaning I seek. A metaphysical reading of our sacred texts will also deliver us from literalism, but for me it does not go as deeply as I feel I must go in search of truth. ~John Shelby Spong Announcements The New Study Guide for the 8 Points of Progressive Christianity is now available from ProgressiveChristianity.org Read More Here or Click on the Image below! Any questions or concerns, please contact us at support(a)johnshelbyspong.com or 503-236-3545. Copyright © 2013 ProgressiveChristianity.org, All rights reserved. You are receiving this email because you have a membership at our website. 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Musings by Del
by Del Morril 09 Jan '13

09 Jan '13

The news is rotting my brain!! January 8, 2013 Musings by Del A six-year old child is sent home for pointing his finger at other kids in his class and saying "bang". A columnist pushes this stupidity to extremes in her spoof on dangerous 6-year -olds. Are we getting so crazy that 6-year-olds are that scary? And speaking of scary, three days after the Sandy Hook massacre of 6-year-olds and their teachers, in her own school, a teacher found the journal of a 17-year old boy, in which he plans his own massacre - six of his targets being Black schoolmates. Also, it was discovered that he was building bombs for this event, in his basement. We are a country (and maybe a whole world) gone mad! Yet the rhetoric continues, and people will soon forget Sandy Hook and all the rest that came before, probably without anything changed. Many people think that if we would just kinder to each other, get more psychological help, or if people are checked better when getting hand guns, or if we put a guard in each school, the carnage will stop. As far as I'm concerned, you'll never get all the crazies before they commit their monstrous acts. How about this thing we used to discuss called "structure is the key to change!" And what are the structures that need to come at the SOURCE of things, not at the various responses. How about some major changes in law that can begin to solve the problem of a nation that owns 100 guns to every 120 people! I would like to see Congress do three things: 1) Enact a law that no manufacturer can sell an automatic weapon to any individual, including any military person. They can only be sold to the military as a whole. 2) Ban all violent games; heavy fines and even jail time to any manufacturer of same. Laws make it more difficult to have child pornography get to children; why not the violence which is just as offensive and dangerous to young minds? 3) Put in place a stricter censorship of the movie and TV cable industries that limits showing gratuitous violence on the screen. Now, we already know these are bound to be impossible, don't we? This country is so driven by "individual rights" and the NRA lobby so strong, and our leadership so conservative, timid or hung-up on making sure Obama never gets anything he wants, that it neglects to do anything to protect society at large. Parents CHOOSE to not inoculate their children, so that later on their children can spread diseases that once went out of existence due to inoculation therapies. People who have AIDS don't have to have bloods tests or take meds, or even let anyone know they have it, so that they can spread the disease even further. Our quarantine system is a joke, practically non-existent, letting people walk around spreading whatever they have and choosing to do so by their own individual rights. Those whose pockets wouldn't be getting as full will have the final word, as usual, by insisting that our rights are being violated should Congress try to do anything to curb the spread of terror and disease. They'll insist that violence on the screen, whether in the home or in the theatre, doesn't do anything to children's brains and ideas. They'll insist on the right to have assault weapons (how many bullets does it take to bring down a deer anyway?). There seems to be little questioning as to why any individual needs anything more than a single-shot weapon. We continue to create laws that, so far, seem to protect the doer and not the "done-to" victim. The best and freest treatment, including surgeries, seems to be in the prisons. No wonder convicts keep going back in once they get out. Suddenly they have to pay for their lodging and food and TV and weight room and sports equipment, and pay for their own hospital care, instead of everyone else's taxes. Perhaps we should all find a way to retire in the prisons! We are a culture gone mad with our so-called individual rights. I am convinced that our forbearers did NOT have this kind of world in mind when it created our Constitution and Bill of Rights. Maybe it is time that those masterful documents be updated to the realities of the world we have been and still are creating. It is truly appalling to me that our own nation should be at the top of the list of nations in violent deaths - above the worst of nations who systematically kill off anyone who the leader disagrees with. No, we are a nation PROUD of the fact that we don't have such dictators - we just let anyone run amok, killing whomever displeases them. Do we believe that our killing rate is a mere drop in the bucket compared to the horrible things like various holocausts caused by other nations in the world. Do we really? Let's start adding up all of the victims and see whose total is higher, shall we? What do you want to bet that we would WIN! Del Del Hunter Morrill 3217 North Mason Avenue Tacoma WA 98407-5419 H: (253) 752-1506; W: (253) 383-5757 delhmor(a)wamail.net Web site: www. hypnocenter.com The cave you fear to enter holds the treasure you seek. (Joseph Campbell)

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Re: [Oe List ...] George's Response to Del
by Del Morril 09 Jan '13

09 Jan '13

What I've wondered is why, when people are concerned about water, and even in drought times, no one seems to raise the question of why so many think they must have a shower every day, and why so many who do feel it's their meditation time, so they should have a very LONG one. Not only does showering your body every day remove its protective oils, but it probably, altogether in this nation, uses up far more water than lawns do. Del P.S. People used to accuse me of being too emotional and even dogmatic about my beliefs; and I accused myself of being too cynical. Had a revelation that neither is a problem - I'm just "passionately indignant!" _____ From: oe-bounces(a)lists.wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of LAURELCG(a)aol.com Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 9:06 AM To: oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] George's Response to Del Thank you, George, for bringing us to the primary issue of climate change. I looked at my front lawn this morning and thought, "This is the time to dig it up and plant a native, drought tolerant ground cover of some kind. Our ground water in the San Joaquin Valley is polluted with nitrates, but it's still precious. Hopefully, some young people are working on purifying it. Thankfully, we have a good snow pack so far this season. I pray for rain (and sanity) for my native state of Texas. Hope appeareth indeed. And thank you, Del, for starting this discussion. Blessings, Jann McGuire

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Re: [Oe List ...] George's Response to Del
by LAURELCG＠aol.com 09 Jan '13

09 Jan '13

My prayer answered! Water has been fought over in California forever. Jann In a message dated 1/9/2013 9:14:02 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, rcwmbw(a)yahoo.com writes: Jann, In the Dallas area we've had nearly 2 inches of rain since last evening. It's still raining slowly and soaking in, and it's supposed to continue until tomorrow morning. This is the first significant rainfall we've had here since before Easter. So little precipitation is very unusual for this time of year, but it could be the new normal. I wonder if some day people will fight over water they way they fight over oil today. Randy "Whatever the problem, community is the answer. There is no power greater than a community discovering what it cares about." Margaret Wheatley

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Great Teachings for climate change:Michael Dowd and Connie Barlow's newsletter
by LAURELCG＠aol.com 09 Jan '13

09 Jan '13

Colleagues, these links lead to fabulous resources, imho. Jann Dear Friends and Fellow Evolutionaries, Greetings in the New Year! Three things this month: 1. What's New on The Great Story website: _http://thegreatstory.org/new.html_ (http://thegreatstory.org/new.html) (Parents: we highly recommend the "_Elemental Birthdays_ (http://solstice-and-equinox.com/elementalbirthdays.html) " resource!) 2. Our awakening to the moral urgency of climate change, as intergenerational injustice / intergenerational evil: Best short videos and most helpful resources on the subject: _http://thegreatstory.org/climate.html_ (http://thegreatstory.org/climate.html) Direct link to our "personal awakening" video on YouTube: _http://youtu.be/a1HpkCiOaiI_ (http://youtu.be/a1HpkCiOaiI) My HuffPost blog post: _http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rev-michael-dowd/intergenerational-evil-of_b… (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rev-michael-dowd/intergenerational-evil-of_b_…) 3. My dear friend and mentor David Gershon, co-founder of Empowerment Institute, is one of the world's foremost authorities on behavior-change, community empowerment, and large-system transformation. I know this from personal experience, as we worked closely together in the mid-to-late 1990s. David's work has addressed a wide diversity of issues: * low carbon lifestyles * livable neighborhoods * sustainable communities * organizational talent development * corporate social engagement * cultural transformation David is offering a free teleseminar this Sunday, January 13, 2013 @ 2pm EST / 11am PST: _http://davidgershonjan2013.eventbrite.co.uk_ (http://davidgershonjan2013.eventbrite.co.uk/) This hour-long teleseminar is appropriate for anyone wishing to make change happen. David presents strategies and tools for shifting habits, empowering communities, and transforming large systems. Drawing on his highly acclaimed book Social Change 2.0, he describes how each of us can step up our ability to make a difference in the world. David also introduces his "Masterclass in Transformative Social Change" that starts on January 27th. (Learn more about that _here_ (http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001AAh2gICnjSLOn2bq6hB8lj0Rg3iPSomvPyU0FXZ4baDn… e1D9AyR_Bm1r__uf0cE7Z_wtplpG-KvjT61raV-PyKCgJo3z1NZWNNlAtlQesuQFPOheFpFyxrON ZXI-bopNZMQ==) .) Connie and I will both be on the teleseminar call and will also be enrolling in David's masterclass. _Download a free PDF_ (http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001AAh2gICnjSLOn2bq6hB8lj0Rg3iPSomvPyU0FXZ4baDn… ozK5YAX5OaYQXHZX55AbWyEs_1VgaQbUl_MxF8cAEhxEfO6j7oCeFAumtqTIHT8A-SRuyDCxfFqJ aiwexg7avDDFmbGhOSy) of "Reinventing Social Change," the introduction to the book, Social Change 2.0. View a short video by David Gershon on pushing the envelope as a change agent: _http://vimeo.com/4417571#at=0_ (http://vimeo.com/4417571#at=0) And here's another short video of David talking about Social Change 2.0 with Deepak Chopra: _http://youtu.be/wxZgaXbzoXs_ (http://youtu.be/wxZgaXbzoXs) NOTE: As a member of Connie's and my "Evolutionary Times" email list, if you register for David's Masterclass (which is separate from the free teleseminar/introduction) you are entitled to a tuition reduction of $35. Just type "Evolutionary Times" into the partner organization box. Again, here's the link to register for the free January 13th teleseminar: _http://davidgershonjan2013.eventbrite.co.uk_ (http://davidgershonjan2013.eventbrite.co.uk/) Wishing everyone a joyful, productive, and fulfilling 2013! Natural blessings, ~ Michael and Connie _http://thegreatstory.org/MD-writings.html_ (http://thegreatstory.org/MD-writings.html) _http://thegreatstory.org/CB-writings.htm_ (http://thegreatstory.org/CB-writings.htm)

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Re: [Oe List ...] George's Response to Del
by LAURELCG＠aol.com 09 Jan '13

09 Jan '13

Thank you, George, for bringing us to the primary issue of climate change. I looked at my front lawn this morning and thought, "This is the time to dig it up and plant a native, drought tolerant ground cover of some kind. Our ground water in the San Joaquin Valley is polluted with nitrates, but it's still precious. Hopefully, some young people are working on purifying it. Thankfully, we have a good snow pack so far this season. I pray for rain (and sanity) for my native state of Texas. Hope appeareth indeed. And thank you, Del, for starting this discussion. Blessings, Jann McGuire In a message dated 1/9/2013 8:52:29 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, geowanda(a)earthlink.net writes: Yes, everything seems to be in contention. From gun control to how do we address the rapidly growing inequity between rich and poor, but the matter that will put all of this as secondary is global climate change. What is happening in Australia, the island nations, rise of seas, the Arctic melt and increasing acidity of the oceans, the violent weather, Sandy in the U.S., Cyclone season in other parts of the world and last years Tornado season, expanding desertification and loss of potable water is going to change everything very quickly. Last night at our community meeting the question of water rates came up and the resident who serves on several state and federal water regulation and study groups, jumped to his feet and announced that what we are paying for water is a 4th of what it's worth and the cost will rise rapidly in the coming year, He also pleaded for everyone to stop watering their lawns, saying that's our drinking water. I'd never seen such passion coming from this cool, reasonable mediator type before. It is more than likely that the water sold to rice farmers in South Texas will be cut off because the lakes and aquifers around Austin are at historic lows and even if there were sustained heavy rains it would not fill the lakes or recharge the aquifers. In as much as the wealthy and corporate interests have large stakes in keeping the exploitation of natural resources and pollution levels as they are, or even increasing them, what is unfolding is breaking all of the models of sustainability and, in proportion, governance and life style. It is likely that, in my thinking, that locality will become more contentious and some of the questions that will be driving things will be how can I protect what I have. Facilitators might want to consider how to implement ways to aid the wealthy and the corporate world in how to step back from exploiting consumerism and become expert in conservation and slimming down as a way to profitability. Just as a way was found to eliminate CFCs for the most part and other chemicals creating the Ozone hole, I imagine something similar may begin to occupy the powers that have ignored climate change so far, which will have an enormous effect on how business and governance is done, and will effect everyone's life style and economics, particularly if these measures do not work. Some of the climatologist feel we passed the tipping point. If this be true, what are the models for living on the other side of that? Maybe some of our young folk are already working on that. George Holcombe 14900 Yellowleaf Tr. Austin, TX 78728 Mobile 512/252-2756 _geowanda(a)earthlink.net_ (mailto:geowanda@earthlink.net) Hope appeareth, but it is not your Hope—you do not have anything to do with it. It just appeareth. It comes as a stranger, as an alien—it just appeareth! You do not even know why you hope. How in the world could you hope when there is absolutely nothing to justify any hope? ~Joseph W. Mathews = _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net

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Re: [Oe List ...] Salmon: Response to Del
by David Walters 08 Jan '13

08 Jan '13

We may not be able to outlaw guns, but we could outlaw the magazines that are used in assault guns. We could also urge the adoption of laws concerning the sale of ammunition: the size and types of ammunition, how much can be purchased in certaind time frame, and limits who can not purchase. Neither of thesae would be in conflict with the 2nd amendment. -David Walters --- jackcgilles(a)gmail.com wrote: Del, I second Randy's suggestion on Meg's book. I'm about half way through it and it is terrific. I feel everyone needs to read it. $9.99 Kindle edition. My own suggestion for a law on the assault rifles would be to make them illegal, but since it would be extremely hard to confiscate those already owned, I would have them have to be stored at a licensed gun range (people do enjoy shooting them for some perverse reasons) and anyone caught shooting "in the woods" or a place other than a licensed range would loose the weapon and pay a big fine. That way they are not confiscated from citizens, but their use is tightly controlled. Jack On Jan 8, 2013, at 7:32 PM, Randy Williams wrote: > Suggest the reading of Meg Wheatley's latest book So Far From Home. Great statement of the hope beyond hope, in the sense in which Kaz spoke of hope as the greatest temptation. > Randy > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net

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Re: [Oe List ...] an in-box question
by David Walters 07 Jan '13

07 Jan '13

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Re: [Oe List ...] an in-box question
by Del Morril 07 Jan '13

07 Jan '13

Thanks to all who tried to help me with this. Now, just tell me where to find "Unread Mail" - I have looked through every menu I have in my outlook without success. Del Del Hunter Morrill 3217 North Mason Avenue Tacoma WA 98407-5419 H: (253) 752-1506; W: (253) 383-5757 <mailto:delhmor@wamail.net> delhmor(a)wamail.net Web site: www. hypnocenter.com The cave you fear to enter holds the treasure you seek. (Joseph Campbell) _____ From: oe-bounces(a)lists.wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of Doris Hahn Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2013 5:32 PM To: Order Ecumenical Community Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] an in-box question Wish I could help you, Del, but alas.... But welcome back! Best for the New Year, Doris On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Del Morril <delhmor(a)wamail.net> wrote: Hi friends, Ever since I got back from my over-a-month stay in "rehab" I have 69 e-mails that are supposedly sitting somewhere but don't come into my outlook in box. Since the number sits right next to "Inbox" on the menu, and has never done so before (usually shows 0 once I read all and send them to wherever else they need to go. Anyone enough of a computer brain out there who can tell me how to bring those in, or whether it is a "phantom"? Greatly appreciate any advice to this nearly computer illiterate. Del Del Hunter Morrill 3217 North Mason Avenue Tacoma WA 98407-5419 H: (253) 752-1506 <tel:%28253%29%20752-1506> ; W: (253) 383-5757 <tel:%28253%29%20383-5757> delhmor(a)wamail.net Web site: www. hypnocenter.com The cave you fear to enter holds the treasure you seek. (Joseph Campbell) _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net

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Re: [Oe List ...] an in-box question
by Del Morril 07 Jan '13

07 Jan '13

My MS Outlook e-mail processor shows only the following at the side (I have checked through all drop menus along the top, as well as all along the side without seeing anything remotely resembling unread mail. PERSONAL folders (all of which are ones I have named and use for my filing of e-mails I wish to keep) MAIL (Inbox, Outbox, Junk, Sent items, etc.) CALENDAR CONTACTS TASKS NOTES Nothing else is listed. My Favorites is a on-line, internet category, not an MS Outlook category, at least on my computer. As of now I still show 62 e-mails never processed. As well as the above I plowed through Search folder, Archives folder, etc. I've run out of options as far as I can see. So I get used to it, or hope those 62 will somehow eventually come through. I've already found e-mails in junk folder that I had never read and definitely were not junk, and in the archives that I had not read, so they are all over the place right now. Sent out some responses to e-mails from October. My, but I am having fun! _____ From: oe-bounces(a)lists.wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of Milan Hamilton Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 1:22 PM To: 'Order Ecumenical Community' Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] an in-box question It should appear in the "Favorites" in the left panel, and/or in the "search" folders toward the bottom. MM From: oe-bounces(a)lists.wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of Lynn Brailsford Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 1:11 PM To: 'Order Ecumenical Community' Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] an in-box question It should be in the far left panel labeled Folders (goes vertical up down the far left side, not across the top...on mine the choices read Inbox, Unread Mail, Sent Items, the icons for Mail, Calendar, Contacts, etc.) Take care, Lynn Brailsford Consulting LLC Asheville, NC 28806 brailsfordconsulting.com <http://www.brailsfordconsulting.com/> 201-805-6103 (m) 828-398-0618 (t) From: oe-bounces(a)lists.wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of Del Morril Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 3:54 PM To: 'Order Ecumenical Community' Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] an in-box question Thanks to all who tried to help me with this. Now, just tell me where to find "Unread Mail" - I have looked through every menu I have in my outlook without success. Del Del Hunter Morrill 3217 North Mason Avenue Tacoma WA 98407-5419 H: (253) 752-1506; W: (253) 383-5757 <mailto:delhmor@wamail.net> delhmor(a)wamail.net Web site: www. hypnocenter.com The cave you fear to enter holds the treasure you seek. (Joseph Campbell) _____ From: oe-bounces(a)lists.wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of Doris Hahn Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2013 5:32 PM To: Order Ecumenical Community Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] an in-box question Wish I could help you, Del, but alas.... But welcome back! Best for the New Year, Doris On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Del Morril <delhmor(a)wamail.net> wrote: Hi friends, Ever since I got back from my over-a-month stay in "rehab" I have 69 e-mails that are supposedly sitting somewhere but don't come into my outlook in box. Since the number sits right next to "Inbox" on the menu, and has never done so before (usually shows 0 once I read all and send them to wherever else they need to go. Anyone enough of a computer brain out there who can tell me how to bring those in, or whether it is a "phantom"? Greatly appreciate any advice to this nearly computer illiterate. Del Del Hunter Morrill 3217 North Mason Avenue Tacoma WA 98407-5419 H: (253) <tel:%28253%29%20752-1506> 752-1506; W: (253) <tel:%28253%29%20383-5757> 383-5757 delhmor(a)wamail.net Web site: www. hypnocenter.com The cave you fear to enter holds the treasure you seek. (Joseph Campbell) _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net

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