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Re: [Oe List ...] OE Digest, Vol 64, Issue 13
by Lawrence Philbrook via OE 08 Jul '17

08 Jul '17

My parents shared this with me a long time ago. I hope it is of some help With respect, Larry >

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Re: [Oe List ...] FW: How Long O Lord
by Jean Long via OE 08 Jul '17

08 Jul '17

Jean Long here - Lynda - in singing "If you miss the train..." and then the "How Long" - it seems to me we wrote words to only the verse three times. And my enemies,,, starts the third verse. Can't fit any words to fit the chorus - "A hundred miles, a hundred miles, a hundred miles, a hundred miles, you will hear the whistle blow a hundred miles. What a tune! My group sang this in the 60s - with the Peter, Paul and Mary harmony, of course. Hey - might make copies of "The Other Singers" CD available in October. Great memories, Jean On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 2:32 PM, Lynda C <lynda860(a)outlook.com> wrote: > Dear Ann and David, I ran across this song today that was used in the > Ecumenical Institute with apologies to the original authors of the music. > In the spirit of John Wesley of putting religious words to familiar secular > songs, these words were put to songs. > > I can’t get the words and music to come out right on the "How Long" song > from my memory. I’ll be in Chicago this fall and I’ll try to get one of > the songbirds to sing it for me. Anyway, I thought of your plea. I’m > enjoying reading “Hillbilly Elegy” by J. D. Vance which gives me hope that > things do change. > > Praying for the G-20 event coming up this week in Brussels. > > Lynda > > > > From: OE List <OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> > Reply-To: Jim and Judy Weigle <jfwiegel(a)yahoo.com>, OE List < > OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> > Date: Sunday, January 8, 2017 at 4:40 PM > To: Marsha Hahn <mhahn013(a)sbcglobal.net>, OE List <OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > > > Cc: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue(a)wedgeblade.net> > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Elizabeth Caperton > > Singing the Prayer Song > > PRAYER > > Tune: Aravah (Hebrew) > > > > When I see my life > > ever is torn > > > > And loved ones > > violated > > > > And my failures are daily reborn > > > > Then sorrow with > > heaven is weighted > > Yet I can gladly em-brace every hour > > > > And praise God’s > > inequity > > > > I can sing of my blessings that shower > > > > My joy > > inexpressible be. > > Now here I stand > > battered to and fro > > > > The chaos within > > yet surrounding > > > > I cry out my want and > > the lack that I know > > > > And power from with- > > out feel uplifting. > > The weight of the world > > on my shoulders I bear > > > > I echo the > > voices that cry > > > > The path of Mankind > > with my agony bent > > > > And my God I’ll fight on > > ‘til I die. > > And Psalm 13 > > > PSALM 13 > > Tune: Five Hundred Miles > > > > How long, O Lord, wilt thou quite forget me? > > How long wilt thou hide thy face from me? > > How long must I suffer anguish in my soul, > > grief in my heart, day and night? > > How long shall my enemy lord it over me? > > Look now and answer me, O Lord my God. > > Give light to my eyes lest I sleep the sleep of death, > > lest my adversary say, "I have overthrown him," > > and my enemies rejoice at my downfall. > > But for my part I trust in thy true love. > > My heart shall rejoice, for thou hast set me free. > > I will sing to the Lord, who has granted all my desire. > > > > > Jim Wiegel > 401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353 > Tel. 011-623-936-8671 or 011-623-363-3277 > jfwiegel(a)yahoo.com <marilyn.oyler(a)gmail.com> > www.partnersinparticipation.com > > "We are no longer living in an era of change. We are living in a change > of era." Francis > > Upcoming public course opportunities click here > http://partnersinparticipation.com/?page_id=10 > For online registration go to http://www.top-training.net > > The AZ ToP® Community of Practice meets the 1st Friday, 1-4 pm, starting > again on Sept 5th at ACYR, 648 N. 5th Avenue, Phoenix, AZ 85003 > <https://www.google.com/maps/place/648+N+5th+Ave/@33.456329,-112.080545,16z/…> > AICP Planners: 14.5 CM for all ToP® courses >

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ICAI Global Buzz July
by ICA International via OE 07 Jul '17

07 Jul '17

Enjoy catching up with what is happening in ICAs across the globe.....If you wish to SEND a report...send to your ICA contact person OR...go to the members section on the ICA International website Please click the link below for the latest issue of the Global Buzz Global Buzz Report: July 2017 or copy and paste this URL into your browser's address bar http://globalbuzz.icai-archives.org/7dayreport-17/2017-07-01.php ICAI Communications

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PARDON ANY OVERLAP
by Lee Early via OE 07 Jul '17

07 Jul '17

Do you know anyone who might meet the following criteria: any person who levies war against the United States or adheres to its enemies by giving them Aid and Comfort <http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Aid+and+Comfort> has committed treason within the meaning of the Constitution. The term aid and comfort refers to any act that manifests a betrayal of allegiance to the United States, such as furnishing enemies with arms, troops, transportation, shelter, or classified information. If a subversive act has any tendency to weaken the power of the United States to attack or resist its enemies, aid and comfort has been given. Should we change the dialogue from “impeachment” to treasson? Lee Lee Early 19230 Forest Park Dr. NE A-102 Lake Forest Park, WA 98155 Phone: (425)212-7997 lees.mail(a)comcast.net

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Re: [Oe List ...] A new Singing thread
by Dawn Collins via OE 07 Jul '17

07 Jul '17

So glad we've reclaimed the disciplined practice of the healing art of singing in our beloved community! I discovered a new appreciation and appropriation for the alto register after joining a local Methodist church in Denver a few years ago after journeying through singing (or not) soprano, 'cracked bass' and tuneless monotone. It was there at service one morning I actually heard the different parts! Glory Be! Needless to say, my enjoyment of the many genres of music I enjoy have been gratefully intensified. Here's to an easy, breezy corporate effort captured for posterity! Hope we include some of the great corporate pieces of music that involved the body in Call & Response, Broadway show tunes, etc. I keep remembering of late, Bruce Bauknight's rendition of He'll Pilot Me and the rouser about I love Jesus 'cause His Name's So Sweet! (Might want to update the theological references). Here's to a 2017 full of mellifluous melodies, harmonies and compositions with a great gathering in October and an optimum product duly advertised to be disseminated across the movemental realm of songs/music capturing the decades of our existence. Aside: Are we ready for some Doo Wops of the 60's? I have an extensive collection. Yours in joyful anticipation por la musica, Dawn We love the Source because the Source first loved us.-1 John 4:19 On Wednesday, July 5, 2017 12:36 AM, Jean Long via OE <oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: jean long here - No Lynda, all the names listed as potential singers have not yet registered - but the list was a reminder and an invitation. Randy Williams - special invite - you were already mentioned - but couldn't do it without you. jean ;) On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 10:50 PM, via OE <oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: I think it is Ken Fisher, not Ken Whitney. Sorry about that, but I’m sure. Clare From: Karenbueno via OE Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2017 7:59 PMTo: lynda860(a)outlook.com ; oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] A new Singing thread Maybe Terry Wright, as he had done barbershop singing before we joined OE in1969. Terry died from cancer in 2005, just before his third grandchild was born. Karen (Wright) Bueno -----Original Message----- From: Lynda C via OE <oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> To: Jean Long <jean.long512(a)gmail.com>; Order Ecumenical Community <oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> Sent: Tue, Jul 4, 2017 6:00 pm Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] A new Singing thread Jean, Beautiful letter. Are these minstrel people all coming to the HDP event? Wow! I thought of David Zahrt, Michael Shaw and some others who did Barber Shop singing. I believe John Treise was one of them. Can’t recall the 4th. From: OE List <OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> Reply-To: "Long. Jean" <jean.long512(a)gmail.com>, OE List <OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> Date: Tuesday, July 4, 2017 at 5:17 PM To: Carol Crow <carolcrowcrow(a)gmail.com>, OE List <OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] A new Singing thread Jean Long here -So thrilled that the thought of singing once again brings joy and anticipation to our hearts!!! We are singing again here in Chicago - with harmony! One more reason for all of you to consider joining us in October (9 - 13) to help create the celebration of the Band of 24, the unveiling of the archives website and the creation of a list of tags (labels) that will allow people and organizations who would not use our jargon to reach the wealth of information we are putting on the web. We will have a roving minstrel band singing the songs of the 24 plus these others that memory is calling for us to sing again. Additions to the minstrel crew - Pam Bergdall John Tresise, David Scott, Joyce Sloan, George and Carol Walters, Mary Warren Moffett, Ken Whitney, Carlos Ollison, Bob Booher. Forgive any omissions - tried to remember the Great Hall and the groups who were the "minstrels". Well, now we have the choir for the internet and two groups of minstrels - and no rehearsals needed! When else could you spend a week @$30/night (single) and $45/night (double) to ensure that our wisdom gets into history - and enjoy a mini reunion? We will have archive CDs (singing of the Order), documentary of the community on westside DVD), etc. for sale. Also books (History of Order, ICA, Courage to Lead II 0 Brian Stansfield) - and your books if you want to send us 10 copies. ...and we will be calling to catch up on your journies. Our connection is forged in the commitment, blood, sweat and tears we were all driven to give to alleviate the suffering of the world - it is sacred and we are blessed to know each other in the sacrifice we shared - and have continued in dispersion. the bond is unbroken, JeanGlobal Archives Chicago On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 3:04 PM, Carol Crow via OE <oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: I’m ready to sing~ Carol On Jul 3, 2017, at 6:43 PM, Karenbueno via OE <oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: Wow! I missed that entirely, Randy. Thank you for catching it. Karen Bueno -----Original Message----- From: Randy Williams <randycw1938(a)gmail.com> To: Sunny Walker <sunwalker(a)comcast.net>; Order Ecumenical Community <oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> Cc: Karenbueno <karenbueno(a)aol.com>; jfwiegel <jfwiegel(a)yahoo.com>; nancylanphear <nancylanphear(a)gmail.com> Sent: Mon, Jul 3, 2017 8:54 am Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] A new Singing thread A suggestion to make it more gender neutral, in the first column the third box change it to, "It's then I honor them, though they be foe or friend." Randy On Jul 3, 2017, at 9:48 AM, Sunny Walker via OE <oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: A challenge to do it virtually, but I think it’s doable. The challenge is having us online at the same time. Doodle poll, anyone? From: OE [mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedge blade.net] On Behalf Of Karenbueno via OE Sent: Monday, July 3, 2017 8:20 AM To: jfwiegel(a)yahoo.com; oe@lis ts.wedgeblade.net Cc: nancylanphear(a)gmail.com Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] A new Singing thread I'm in to sing it. Can we do it virtually? Karen Bueno in Denver metro -----Original Message----- From: James Wiegel via OE <oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> To: James Wiegel <jfwiegel(a)yahoo.com>; Order Ecumenical Community <oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> Cc: Nancy Lanphear <nancylanphear(a)gmail.com> Sent: Mon, Jul 3, 2017 5:08 am Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] A new Singing thread Remember the Contemplation song? Here's the deal . . . We get 16 or more (or fewer) of us to video record ourselves singing the song, and then compile it and put it on the ICA Research Channel on YouTube. Who is in? | CONTEMPLATION Tune: Those Were the Days | | When in the midst of strife The other strikes my life And that encounter Will not let me flee It’s then I honor him Though he be foe or friend And I become the All that is not me. | And in my past I find The fatefulness of time But then a transfor- mation comes to me I then begin my poem In mystery alone And I am Adam In all History | And the Not-yet I see Is cut from under me So fast it comes as Possibility Then my reality Is change externally And I become the All of yet to be | And deep within I see The fact that I just be And unrepeatably This one this self Free passion then I live My depthless life I give I find that I be Being in myself. | Jim Wiegel A ______________________________ _________________ OE mailing list OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/li stinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net ______________________________ _________________ OE mailing list OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/li stinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net ______________________________ _________________ OE mailing list OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/li stinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net ______________________________ _________________ OE mailing list OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/li stinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net ______________________________ _________________ OE mailing list OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/ listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net ______________________________ _________________ OE mailing list OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/ listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net ______________________________ _________________ OE mailing list OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/ listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net

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A new Singing thread
by Nancy Lanphear via OE 05 Jul '17

05 Jul '17

I know I have told this story before, buy as Geri Tolman reminder me, perhaps you all have forgotten, or remembered your version of the story. I would love to hear what you remember, or was it just a dream of mine? I recall an event during the 1972 summer program where a group of us journeyed to the West Side late in the evening. Joe and Lyn were part of the group. I remember singing hymns for several hours, all by memory, no song books! In later years, noticing that Joe was not usually singing, I remember him that evening, singing from his heart and memory with the rest of us. Does this story ring any memory bells for anyone else but me? Please share yours! In deep gratitude for the journey, Nancy❤️

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Happy Independence Day, Colleagues.
by via OE 04 Jul '17

04 Jul '17

I received this from a member of our local art association, 92-year-old Bill Werner. He makes wooden toys and sculptures from junk, performs magic shows for children's parties and plays his banjo every weekend at an open mike event. Enjoy! Jann TO ANACHREON IN HEAV’N - British drinking song To Anacreon in heaven where he sat in full glee, A few sons of harmony sent a petition, That he their inspirer and patron would be, When this answer arrived from the jolly old Grecian: Voice, fiddle and flute, no longer be mute, I'll lend you my name and inspire you to boot! And besides I'll instruct you like me to entwine The myrtle of Venus and Bacchus's vine. Try singing that to the tune of our national anthem! ( national since 1931 mandated by Herbert Hoover) To Anachreon in Heav'n was written by a pro-slavery British lawyer to the melody of a popular drinking song praising drinking and sex. (Venus being the goddess of love and Bacchus the god of wine) In America, a chap named Francis Scott Key wrote a poem while the British were shooting Congreve rockets at an American fort to keep us colonists in line. Somehow, these two elements got combined into one of the most difficult-to sing national anthems ever. 200 years ago the tune was easier to sing due to the amount of wine imbibed by the pubsters, who followed it with "drink up!" rather than "Play ball!" or "Gentlemen, start your engines." On this happy Independence day, let us consider whether a song written by a Russian Jewish immigrant ( Irving Berlin)called "God Bless America" might be put forward as a replacement. Personally, I'd change "bless" to "save", but most people think we are already saved. Play ball!

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Re: [Oe List ...] Thank you, Dawn!
by Dawn Collins via OE 04 Jul '17

04 Jul '17

P'shaw! The Meditative Council is still speaking! It ain't just me; it's an OE thing! Thanks all y'all for the inspiration! Let's not let our heads get too big for blue halos in Heaven in the Here and Now... May a Just Peace Reign Anew, Dawn We love the Source because the Source loved us first.-1 John 4:19 On Sunday, July 2, 2017 3:25 AM, John C <jpc2025(a)outlook.com> wrote: Dawn, you are a holy piece of work, “in Joy, Peace and Hope,” always bubbling over withspirit, it seems. We give thanks for your being here, with beingitself in mystery. Thank you for daring to share your depth of reflection with your colleagues on the profound journey called life. Grace and Peace is yours fromspirit at the very heart of you! John (and Lynda) From: OE <oe-bounces(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> on behalf of Dawn Collins via OE <oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> Reply-To: Dawn Collins <collinsdawn747(a)yahoo.com>, Order Ecumenical Community <oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> Date: Sunday, July 2, 2017 at 1:18 AM To: Nancy Lanphear <nancy(a)songaia.com>, Stuart Hampton <stuhampton(a)att.net>, Order Ecumenical Community <oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> Cc: Order Ecumenical Community <oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Lunch today Re: Lunch Today and Impromptu Singing Did my solitary 'sing along' at the end of a long evening on my laptop just last week. Used a church hymnal and two volumes of Then Sings My Song with bios of hymnist opposite the hymns page. When the spirit occasions these sessions, I usually say to myself, I'm going to sing one or two and go to bed. But I don't stop there. Would you believe four or five? With some of you having similar experiences would you believe the Spirit is at work amongst us? Am attending a House Church worship service every other Sunday this summer. And will raise the question of singing on my next visit and still view an online livestream service from Alaska each week. Just as an aside and related to Journey to the East--I believe our community lost it's way when we changed Discontinuity night from Monday to Wednesday in the early 80's and stopped singing and doing Daily Office. That was a time of loss and a bit of our drifting away from our spiritual tools and discipline for me. Still I believe, in retrospect, we were destined to 'find ourselves as a 'beloved community' in a most quiet and miraculous way. TBTG! In Joy, Peace and Hope, Dawn -We love the Source because the Source loved us first. - 1 John 4:19 On Friday, June 30, 2017 8:34 AM, Nancy Lanphear via OE <oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: WARNING! May start singing for no reason! I would love a bumper sticker with thse words. I sing most of the day! I'll send my story after shopping for our 5 community meals next week! I do have stories to tell! One quick one - Patricia Newkirk and I compiled a new section for our older Songaia songbook.. Of course the old one had New Community Bound, Rainbow Trails, an a few others from our order days,. The new section now has BELIEVE! My neighbor Marilyn said, "why have you bee hiding this one for so long?" With my memory blips, I may have already told this story, sorry! Later then, Nancy On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 7:16 AM, Stuart Hampton <stuhampton(a)att.net> wrote: Old song -- here you go..How Can I Keep from Singing? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ How_Can_I_Keep_from_Singing%3F | | | How Can I Keep from Singing? | | | On Friday, June 30, 2017 9:12 AM, Rod Rippel <rodrippel(a)cox.net> wrote: Thanks for “This Old Song!.” In what hymnal did you find it? Song just breaks out! From:Nancy Lanphear via OE Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 7:02 AM To:Stuart Hampton ; Order Ecumenical Community Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Lunch today Last week we gathered On Jun 30, 2017, at 6:24 AM, Stuart Hampton via OE <oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: My wife bought me a bunch of these bumper stickers for Christmas. "Warning: May start singing for no reason" This old song says it all in just the first two verses. "How Can I Keep From Singing?" My life goes on in endless song Above earth's lamentations, I hear the real, though far-off hymn That hails a new creation. Through all the tumult and the strife I hear it's music ringing, It sounds an echo in my soul. How can I keep from singing? On Friday, June 30, 2017 7:30 AM, James Wiegel via OE <oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: Judy and I had lunch today with Joe and Marilyn Crocker at their place in Wells, ME. Met the Crocker's dog, and sort of spontaneously burst into song . . . Goodby my Coney Island Baby, Praise God from Whom All Blessings Flow, I Don't Know Why, More, . . . Grand finale was the Poverty Song (Come Walk with Francis . . Had to dig out the words for that one. .). Any other strange outbursts happening lately?? <IMG_8766.JPG> Jim Wiegel 401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353 Tel. 011-623-936-8671 or 011- 623-363-3277 jfwiegel(a)yahoo.com www.partnersinparticipation. com This Is Just To Say BY WILLIAM CARLOS WILLIAMS I have eaten the plums that were in the icebox and which you were probably saving for breakfast Forgive me they were delicious so sweet and so cold ______________________________ _________________ OE mailing list OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/ listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net <IMG_8766.JPG> ______________________________ _________________ OE mailing list OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/ listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net ______________________________ _________________ OE mailing list OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/ listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net

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Re: [Oe List ...] Lunch today
by Rod Rippel via OE 02 Jul '17

02 Jul '17

Thanks for “This Old Song!.” In what hymnal did you find it? Song just breaks out! From: Nancy Lanphear via OE Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 7:02 AM To: Stuart Hampton ; Order Ecumenical Community Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Lunch today Last week we gathered On Jun 30, 2017, at 6:24 AM, Stuart Hampton via OE <oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: My wife bought me a bunch of these bumper stickers for Christmas. "Warning: May start singing for no reason" This old song says it all in just the first two verses. "How Can I Keep From Singing?" My life goes on in endless song Above earth's lamentations, I hear the real, though far-off hymn That hails a new creation. Through all the tumult and the strife I hear it's music ringing, It sounds an echo in my soul. How can I keep from singing? On Friday, June 30, 2017 7:30 AM, James Wiegel via OE <oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: Judy and I had lunch today with Joe and Marilyn Crocker at their place in Wells, ME. Met the Crocker's dog, and sort of spontaneously burst into song . . . Goodby my Coney Island Baby, Praise God from Whom All Blessings Flow, I Don't Know Why, More, . . . Grand finale was the Poverty Song (Come Walk with Francis . . Had to dig out the words for that one. .). Any other strange outbursts happening lately?? <IMG_8766.JPG> Jim Wiegel 401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353 Tel. 011-623-936-8671 or 011-623-363-3277 jfwiegel(a)yahoo.com www.partnersinparticipation.com This Is Just To Say BY WILLIAM CARLOS WILLIAMS I have eaten the plums that were in the icebox and which you were probably saving for breakfast Forgive me they were delicious so sweet and so cold _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net <IMG_8766.JPG> _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net

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The Order and Oaxtapec
by John Epps via OE 02 Jul '17

02 Jul '17

It has long been claimed that at the Oaxtapec gathering, the Order was called out of being. That assertion has long troubled me, and it seems time to clear the air. IMHO, the statement is both sociologically and theologically inaccurate. A more accurate formulation of what happened in Mexico was that we went from a structured to a dispersed form. Something was definitely dissolved at Oaxtapec, but it was not the Order, only a particular form of the Order. On the sociological side, there is still a lively “we” that once went under the name “Order Ecumenical.” This list-serve and the archives workshops represent some manifestations, but more significant are the personal collegial relationships that persist despite great demographic, cultural, and geographic differences. “We” continue to communicate and to celebrate the life milestones of each other. “We” continue to engage in the mission of catalyzing and caring for those who care – in multiple sectors and with far greater impact than a single organization could have managed. Some examples include the ToP Network, the IAF, ICA community development work in India, Nepal, Australia, and South America, and environmental preservation efforts in the USA. “We” have published a good number of books making insights available to a wide audience. Colleagues could fill out the list. Theologically, the Order is a historical dynamic that we’ve been privileged to participate in. It is not something we can disband, even if we wanted to. Just as Niebuhr described the Church as the “sensitive and responsive ones…” that takes many forms, so also is the Order composed of those awakened and catalytic ones who care for those who care. The notion that some of us could dissolve that dynamic confuses the form from the content (the baby from the bathwater to use a less abstract metaphor). I’ve come (reluctantly) to see that we were led to dissolve a particular structure so that the historical dynamic might continue in an enhanced fashion. Why does this matter? Is it simply a verbal difference having little to do with anything except the neurosis of an old theologian? It matters because thinking that there is no longer an Order prevents us from wrestling with pertinent questions: How can we remain in touch with the Profound Mystery? How can we continue to access our common insights? What rites and celebrations are appropriate to a dispersed body? How can we account to each other and support each other? How can we stay on the religious and secular edge? What (if any) forms are appropriate for the global and diverse participants in this historical dynamic? In a time when hatred and fear of differences is so rampant, what new experiments might make a difference? What might we learn from *Journey to the East*? Collegial comments, clarifications, corrections, and additions are most welcome. Thanks for reading this. John Epps

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