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Re: [Oe List ...] OE Digest, Vol 57, Issue 14
by Landolphe D'Aquin MD ThD via OE 19 Dec '16

19 Dec '16

Where is the Phases of Life Journey Word document cited here to be found? *M Landolphe D'Aquin-B MD ThD* On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 1:52 PM, via OE <oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: > Send OE mailing list submissions to > oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > oe-request(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > oe-owner(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of OE digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: life phases (Jack Gilles via OE) > 2. Re: life phases (Wilson Priscilla H via OE) > 3. Re: The life phases (Sarah H. Buss via OE) > 4. Re: The life phases (Wilson Priscilla H via OE) > 5. Re: Thanks Marshall and Jack et al. (via OE) > 6. Re: [Dialogue] The life phases (Sarah H. Buss via OE) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 09:55:32 -0600 > From: Jack Gilles via OE <oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> > To: Jaime R Vergara <wangzhimu2031(a)aol.com>, OE Listserve > <oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] life phases > Message-ID: <047D442F-B6FD-46BA-85AF-0CE7F5C40D0E(a)gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Dear All, > > I think this work on the life journey charts are helpful, but only to a > point. It is a trans-rational way to map the journey, but each of us has > our particular journey and that is what is so important. Poor Jesus barely > got started. Just imagine what he would have achieved had he gotten to be > an elder with wisdom. > > In our India leadership program we did a depth exercise in charting one?s > life. Although most of the people we worked with were young, in their 30?s > and 40?s, it was always a profound address. To name the parts of one?s > journey is so revealing, and to decide what meaning (mission) would unfold > in an ?open? future was a deep struggle. But the transparency happened when > we sat in a circle and shared our insights. > > One of the parts of the charting process was to have people brainstorm > people who had impacted their lives. They could be alive or dead, authors, > actors painters, poets, etc., and they could be ordinary or famous. Didn?t > matter. What I asked them to do is place them in the chart section for > ?people? and let that inform what that section of the journey was about. As > people shared a transparency for all always occurred. Fate became destiny. > Accident became gift. > > At the end I would ask two questions; ?Does anyone know the ticket > collectors name who threw Gandhi off the train in South Africa? Wouldn?t > you like to thank that SOB for being such a SOB?? and ?Who is the SOB in > your life you would like to thank today?? (I didn?t expect them to answer > that aloud). Then I would make a concluding statement. ?I have no idea what > the future holds for each of you. But this I know, when our lives our > complete and we stand before the honest assessment, it will not be about > our achievements, awards or reputation. There is only one question that is > before us. How many people wrote your name down on their life journey?? > > G&P, > > Jack > > > On Dec 19, 2016, at 09:01, Jaime R Vergara via OE < > oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: > > > > Just revived this write-up and worksheet for class exercises. In case > it is useful to Wiegel. > > > > Don't know how Tim will get it to him but I will just shoot it out and > see what happens. > > Jaime > > > > wangzhimu2031 > > earthrise consciousness, a gift; earthbound commitment, my choice > > yesterday, appreciate; tomorrow, anticipate; today, participate! in all, > celebrate! > > > > > > <THE INCREDIBLE JOURNEY OF HUMANNESS.docx><A phasing of a life > Journey.docx>_______________________________________________ > > OE mailing list > > OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > > http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net > >

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Salmon: Taking up the challenge
by William Salmon via OE 19 Dec '16

19 Dec '16

Marshall, et al Ul-m-m-m; What an interesting "Subject Line--". . . up the challenge." I'll make this quick until someone is interested in the research I've done since retiring from the Order. We are in the midst of a global collapse and rebuilding of our societal WORLDVIEW. Do you remember the illustration of living in a "World of Rounds" until someone opened our eyes that a "Squares" actually existed. "What? There are no such things as Squares. Just show me one." "Ok, there is one right behind you." "Well, I'll be damned. I've never seen a Square before. Are they dangerous?" "No, they are just TWLI--"The Way Life Is." Social Scientists note that a societal paradigm shift happens about every 500 to 600 years. When these shifts take e it was over a period of many years so that the change was little noted and fully accepted. Now, our revolution, our Societal End Times, is turning over very rapidly as represented in the terms Gen X, Y, and Z. Our social scientists note that those born after 1985 are fully wired differently that those of us born prior to this time. Represented in this group are the parents of our highschool students. Does this make it two generations looking at life through the lens o planing Thomas Friedman, the noted Foreign Affairs columnist for the "New York Times," wrote a book published this year is, "Thank You for Being Late: An Optimist's Guide to Thriving in the Age of Accelerations." He notes the following: "Many of us fdeel even more dislocated to iot, but many of us feel even more dislocated now as the result of the election." "Dislocation," as Froiedman uses the term, "is when the whole environment is being altered so quickly that everyone starts to feel they can't keep up. That is what is happening now." Barbara Wendland, in her monthly newsletter--Connections--reports from Friedman's book, "In Friedman's view, "we are living through one of the greatest inflection pointss in history." Wendland goes on to write, "He thinks it's probably unequaled since Gutenberg, a German blacksmith and printer, launched the printing revolution in Europe, paving the way for the Reformation. Friedman observes, "The three largest forces on the planet--technology, globalization, and climate change--are all accelerating at once." Wendland goes one to report, "Friedman observes, ". . . and they're all affecting each other, making the total acceleration happen even faster." As a result, he writes, ". . . .so many aspects of our society's workplaces, and geopolitics are being reshaped and need to be reimagined." (emphasis is mine). Aren't we in the business of "reimagination?" The trouble is, we is old!" The message I get from those representing the post modern generation is, "Get out of the way, old man." My response is, "I'm getting out as fast as I can, and I can see the light at the end of the tunnel getting brighter all of the time! The resources mentioned are: Wendland, Barbara, connections, Dec. 2016, Number 266 This is a powerful lay women who has used this form of communications for at lease 50 years. Marshall, subscribe to it, as it is worthwhile. Frioedman, Thomas, Thank You for Being Late: An Optimist's Guide to Thriving in the Age of Acceleration." I've ordered this book as it is fille with wonderful images to tell our story of reimagening this globe into a more humane existence. We did a fantastic start to tell the world before we die; but then we will be out of this world. Another source that I have not yet read is Jimmy Wheeler's paper, "Wheeler's Manifesto." Jim is one of the best theologians we have. He lives in OKC. He will send you a copy. That's all for now! Inner Peace, Bill Salmon From: W. J. via OE To: Jeanette Stanfield ; Order Ecumenical Community Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] Article on Classes from ICAsupper meeting I rarely comment here. BUT I've frankly been devastated by the outcome of the election. I really need to participate in a corporate process of getting to discern and name the deep, underlying global contradiction in the social process dynamic leading up to, and focused by the result of the election. Any takers? I am sure that we have the methodological tools to get there, but where's the corporate will and 'wired-together' corporate structure? Or have we all effectively 'retired' from the revolution and are now sitting on the sidelines (and hopefully not nodding off)? Nodding off on occasion is easy to do as long as we're all just sitting around watching the so-called 'news' in our "little boxes made of ticky-tacky". I was frankly OK with that as long as Hillary was gonna be in the White House. After the 1968 assassinations I knew what to do. Got up off my butt and got myself to 3444 Congress Parkway (which turned out to be a street address without a physical entrance!). But now? I'm all fired up with nowhere to go (at my advanced age)! Surely I'm not the only one who's fully awake and deeply challenged by recent developments. And waiting for WAY worse news to come. Let me hear from you. Marshall On Sunday, December 18, 2016 10:48 AM, Jeanette Stanfield via OE <oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: Thank you George and Stuart for sharing this with us. Jeanette On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 1:14 PM, George Holcombe via Dialogue <dialogue(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: Studied this paper introduced by Stuart Hampton in a meeting the other night at our ICA colleagues. Really insightful about the structure of society these days, especially in reference to opportunities and limitations. Used to be, I thought of the upper, middle and poor classes, but this casts a new light on it. And provides some helpful categories and framework for grasping what’s going on these days. https://www.weforum.org/ agenda/2016/11/precariat- global-class-rise-of-populism/ George Holcombe 14900 Yellowleaf Tr. Austin, TX 78728 Mobile 512/252-2756 geowanda1(a)me.com "Whatever the problem, community is the answer. There is no power greater than a community discovering what it cares about." 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Re: [Oe List ...] Article on Classes from ICA supper meeting
by George Holcombe via OE 19 Dec '16

19 Dec '16

Studied this paper introduced by Stuart Hampton in a meeting the other night at our ICA colleagues. Really insightful about the structure of society these days, especially in reference to opportunities and limitations. Used to be, I thought of the upper, middle and poor classes, but this casts a new light on it. And provides some helpful categories and framework for grasping what’s going on these days. https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/11/precariat-global-class-rise-of-popul… <https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/11/precariat-global-class-rise-of-popul…> George Holcombe 14900 Yellowleaf Tr. Austin, TX 78728 Mobile 512/252-2756 geowanda1(a)me.com "Whatever the problem, community is the answer. There is no power greater than a community discovering what it cares about." Margaret Wheatley

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Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] Article on Classes from ICA supper meeting
by Zoe Barley via OE 19 Dec '16

19 Dec '16

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by Rod Rippel via OE 18 Dec '16

18 Dec '16

Hello Marianna, I’m embarrassed to say that I can’t find my copy of ‘The Directory’ and I don’t have your mailing address to send the Solitary Office to. Please forward your address to my personal email. My cost for the printing of the book is 7$ a copy plus postage. If I average postal costs at book rate of 3$ it would come to 10$ per book. If you are inclined to do so you may reimburse that amount to me at 8645 Butte St., La Mesa, CA 91941. Otherwise accept it in the spirit of the season. Let me know your response to the Book and its presentation. I have printed up a limited number of books. Your remarks might interest other colleagues and I could print more if needed. In the introductory pages I have attempted to avoid jargon and broaden the appeal for interested, non-movement users. A note about the Annual Propers: I don’t remember the origin of these selections or who might have participated in their use. I do remember coming across them when I was co-prior of the Perth WA religious house in about 1971 –72. I copied them by hand and that is what you find in the current book. Being an engineer, I have speculated whether someone used a ‘random number generator’ or perhaps, just threw a pair of dice to arrive at 365 daily combinations. What is the algorithm? Does anyone know where they came from? Thanks for your interest, Rod Rippel

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Sad news
by Hampton, Stuart via OE 18 Dec '16

18 Dec '16

Joyce Williams asked me to pass on to this list the sad news of the death of her son, Mark. http://www.peters-stumpff.com/memsol.cgi?user_id=1891042&lu=1481804276&iu=0 Stuart

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12/15/16, Spong/Roger Wolsey: I and many others stand upon Bishop Spong's shoulders
by Ellie Stock via OE 15 Dec '16

15 Dec '16

HOMEPAGE MY PROFILE ESSAY ARCHIVE MESSAGE BOARDS CALENDAR I, and many others, stand upon Bishop Spong's shoulders We continue this week with guest author Roger Wolsey, United Methodist Pastor and author. It’s accurately said that “we stand on the shoulders of giants” and John Shelby Spong is one of mine. Bishop Spong has been a tremendous influence on my life as a pastor who is also a theologian and writer. Though we’re not of the same denomination, we are birds of a feather and kindred spirits. We share similar vocational callings. We give a damn about Christianity and its capacity to serve as a source of healing and prophetic transformation in a world that sorely needs those things. And, we care enough about the lineage we’re part of to critique the hell out of it – literally – to help separate the wheat from the chaff in ways that help the faith to be relevant and meaningful in this new millennium. I first discovered Spong’s writings the summer before I started seminary in 1992. My home church, Hamline UMC in St. Paul, MN, had book discussion group called “The Phoenix Group” comprised of people who had fallen away from conventional Christianity and some forward thinking member of that group invited us to read the book that established Spong’s fame and renown – “Rescuing the Bible from Fundamentalism.” Without the benefit of having started my work at the Iliff School of Theology in Denver, CO, the book blew me away with its boldness and its avoidance of pulling any punches. It sensed that Bishop Spong was a veteran of numerous experiences of seeing the Church at its worst. I was impressed by his owning of his stances. As a Minnesotan, who grew up with the value of “nice,” I found myself blushing for how strident and crass some of his rhetoric was. It was clear that he wasn’t seeking to make friends within certain quarters of the Church family. It was obvious that he was done suffering fools kindly and that he was prepared to be estranged from some people. I’d never seen anything quite like this before in the reading I’d done to that point in life. Informed by the critical insights of Rescuing the Bible – along with my earlier degree in philosophy – I hit the ground running at Iliff and blazed my way through my coursework with a a passion to de-and re-construct the faith in ways that made sense to me and my generation (X). Though not on any required reading lists, his book Born of a Woman: a Bishop Rethinks the Birth of Jesus was in the seminary bookstore. I devoured it in the Spring of 1993 and wished I’d read it in the fall of 1992 – before I preached my early sermons as a student pastor – as the insights from it completely changed my understanding of Mary. Instead of reducing my faith in Christianity, Spong’s debunking the false notion that Mary was a virgin, and backing it up scripturally, increased my appreciation of how the scriptures were formed, via processes of midrash, and helped me to celebrate how Jesus’ truly ordinary, and arguably even shameful, entry into the world was a kick-ass declaration of God’s actual glory – including a feminine glory – and the miracle of turning something chaotic and embarrassing into something – someone – who would grow-up to forever change the world – for those who let it. After seminary, Spong again rocked my socks with his book “Resurrection: Myth or Reality”. I read it in 1995 and it greatly informed how I preached my Easter Sunday sermons throughout my career as a pastor. Spong clearly showed how a belief in a physical resurrection of Jesus is not at all necessary in order to be a good and faithful Christian follower of Jesus. Indeed, it was an encounter with a spiritually resurrected Jesus that the apostle Paul had on his way to Damascus, and if that was good enough for Paul, it’s jolly good enough for me. I can relate to this view of things. I too have had spiritual encounters with the Risen one. I too have experienced new life and resurrections from my many failures and face-plants in life. Belief that those can happen is what matters. Furthermore, this text helped me to be more aware about the anti-semitism that has colored Christianity over the years – and how Christians can become better Christians by learning more about the Jewishness of Jesus, the Jewishness of all the authors of all of the texts in the Bible, and the Jewishness of early Christianity. My reading of Spong’s next book “Liberating the Gospels: Reading the Bible With Jewish Eyes” only increased this. I then found myself becoming caught up in my work as pastor, as a husband, and as a political activist – especially seeking to do what I could to prevent the U.S. from waging that senseless war in Iraq. I eventually divorced and felt called to write my own book, “Kissing Fish: Christianity for people who don’t like Christianity.” I had become increasingly more informed by the writings of John Cobb, Jr; Marcus Borg; and John Dominic Crossan and felt moved to offer an introduction to progressive Christianity from a Gen X perspective. During those years, it struck me that Spong, like one of my other mentors, Dr. Delwin Brown, was still more in the camp of liberal Christianity than thoroughly in the arising movement of progressive Christianity. In the same way that Lee Strobel’s “The Case for Christ” was one of the last efforts of conventional evangelical evangelism, I felt that Spong’s works were largely late expressions of liberal Christianity; i.e., a bit too beholden to science, and not quite enough embracing of paradox, Mystery, and the possibility of personal relationship with God. It was only after I’d published my book that I got around to reading Spong’s books: A Christianity for New World, Why Christianity Must Change or Die, Living in Sin?, and Here I Stand. The reading of those texts has both confirmed and challenged my assessment of his theology. I’ve come to realize that I was too quick to label him and put him into a box. While it is true that Spong’s rhetoric – e.g., “God is not a noun, that demands to be defined, God is a verb that invites us to live, to love and to be” – can be ironically over-stated, and notably dualistic (either/or) polarizing – not values in progressive Christianity as I understand it. It’s also the case that his views defy easy categorization and are highly nuanced and have evolved over the years. Spong is very much a fellow progressive Christian. Indeed, he’s one of our movement’s founding-parents. I’ve been blessed by his boldness, brashness, and uncompromising commitment to his integrity. Here he stands – and here I, and many others, stand upon his shoulders. About the Author Rev. Roger Wolsey is an ordained United Methodist pastor who directs the Wesley Foundation at the University of Colorado at Boulder, and is author of Kissing Fish: christianity for people who don’t like christianity ; The Kissing Fish Facebook page ; Roger’s Blogs on Patheos “The Holy Kiss” Read the essay online here. Question & Answer Bob From Fresno, California, writes, Question: The Bible speaks of God addressing particular people, e.g. Abraham, Moses, Elijah and Nathan directly. Other people claim that God has spoken directly to them. How do you account for or explain that? Answer: Dear Bob, In a word very carefully!! I think we need to heed the wisdom of the man who said, "When I speak to God it is called prayer. When God speaks to me it is called paranoia." People who have a deep sense of vocation do feel that God is directing their lives and so they might well refer to that by saying, "God spoke to me and called me to this vocation." That, however, must be understood metaphorically not literally. Does God have vocal cords that enable the Divine One to speak? Does God have a larynx through which words can be formed? Does God speak in Hebrew, Greek or English? Does God have a heavenly accent? Literalism gets silly when we ask such questions. When Moses at the burning bush felt the call from God to go to Egypt to seek freedom of the Jewish people from slavery, was that a literal happening? Was it external? Could it have been photographed or recorded? Or was it internal, subjective, and seen only with the eyes of the mind? People, who claim that they have visions, hear voices or who believe that they bring messages from God are either mentally unbalanced or deceptive, since they appear to need external validation for their internal yearnings. Either way they need to submit their insights to a larger community for both judgment and validation. Great harm has been done to too many people as the direct result of such claims. I distrust them almost 100%!! ~John Shelby Spong Read and Share Online Here Announcements A Journey into a New Christianity Through the Doorway of Matthew's Gospel. In Biblical Literalism: A Gentile Heresy, Spong annotates the Gospel of Matthew and so provides a blueprint for the Church’s future—one that allows the faithful to live inside the Christian story while still embracing the modern world. Click here to read more or purchase book Please send your notes of get well to Bishop Spong addressed to admin(a)progressivechristianity.org and we will forward them on for you. .

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Zero Meridian, Five Degrees North
by Wilson Priscilla H via OE 14 Dec '16

14 Dec '16

Many of you know that I have been writing my husband, Rodney’s biography. It is published and available on amazon.com <http://amazon.com/>. One of his stories which you might enjoy the most is how the Ecumenical Institute discovered us and how he became a Board member on the first Board of Directors. Wilson Priscilla H pris(a)teamtechpress.com www.teamtechpress.com follow me on: Facebook Twitter

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DIRECTORY READY TO MAIL
by via OE 12 Dec '16

12 Dec '16

Dear Friends and Colleagues: >From Mike Tippett: The 2017 Directory Of Those Who Care is now being printed. Copies for The those who have already ordered a Directory will be mailed out by the end of this week. There is still time for you to order your copy! For those who aren’t familiar with The Directory, it is a listing of names, addresses, phones, emails and occupations of several hundred people who have been at one time or another associated with the I.C.A., or the Ecum enical Institute, or its programs and projects. It’s fun to see where everyone is living and what each is doing. (I’m in Florida and am semi-retired) If you would like a copy of your listing, either write or email me. I have a special email for The Directory: _MovementDir(a)aol.com_ (mailto:MovementDir@aol.com) If you would like a copy of The Directory, send in the form below. Cost of the Directory is $20.00 for either the booklet form or a CD. If you order two forms, it will cost $30.00. New This year: An email attachment is only $15.00 ORDER FORM NAME: ______________________________ ADDRESS: ____________________________ CITY/STATE/POSTAL(ZIP) CODE: ____________________________ COUNTRY: ________________________ EMAIL: ______________________________ Make Check/Money Order out to Michel Tippett and send orders to: Michael B. Tippett, 46 Meadow Circle - Ellenton, FL 34222 Phone: (941) 417-7120 Email: MovementDir(a)aol.com Please send me a copy of the directory: [ ] Booklet form [ ] CD [ ] Email Attachment Cost of the Directory is $20.00 for either the booklet form, or a CD. If you order two forms, it will cost $30.00. I enclose $___________

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THE 2017 DIRECTORY
by via OE 12 Dec '16

12 Dec '16

Dear Friends and Colleagues: (SORRY IF THIS IS A DUPLICATE - DON'T WAN T TO MISS ANYONE >From Mike Tippett: The 2017 Directory Of Those Who Care is now being printed. Copies for The those who have already ordered a Directory will be mailed out by the end of this week. There is still time for you to order your copy! For those who aren’t familiar with The Directory, it is a listing of names, addresses, phones, emails and occupations of several hundred people who have been at one time or another associated with the I.C.A., or the Ecum enical Institute, or its programs and projects. It’s fun to see where everyone is living and what each is doing. (I’m in Florida and am semi-retired) If you would like a copy of your listing, either write or email me. I have a special email for The Directory: _MovementDir(a)aol.com_ (mailto:MovementDir@aol.com) If you would like a copy of The Directory, send in the form below. Cost of the Directory is $20.00 for either the booklet form or a CD. If you order two forms, it will cost $30.00. New This year: An email attachment is only $15.00 ORDER FORM NAME: ______________________________ ADDRESS: ____________________________ CITY/STATE/POSTAL(ZIP) CODE: ____________________________ COUNTRY: ________________________ EMAIL: ______________________________ Make Check/Money Order out to Michel Tippett and send orders to: Michael B. Tippett, 46 Meadow Circle - Ellenton, FL 34222 Phone: (941) 417-7120 Email: MovementDir(a)aol.com Please send me a copy of the directory: [ ] Booklet form [ ] CD [ ] Email Attachment Cost of the Directory is $20.00 for either the booklet form, or a CD. If you order two forms, it will cost $30.00. I enclose $___________

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