June 2012 - OE - lists.wedgeblade.net

Being Black in the Order Ecumenical
by R Williams 04 Jun '12

04 Jun '12

Joyce, Your brief comment, in remembering Robert Shropshire, about what it was like to be black and to have been in the O:E has me wanting to hear more about what that experience was like, and trying to recall our black Order colleagues prior to our being dispersed around the globe, embracing cultures of color everywhere. In addition to you, Carlos and Shropshire, I remember Larry Ward, Nadine Ward, Harold Williams and Richard whose last name was, I think, Epson. Other faces are pictured in my mind's eye whose names I cannot recall. Who were they? My interest is peaked by the fact that the white majority, in the U.S at least, is shrinking and will likely soon no longer exist, combined with the fact that there is a glimmer of indication that cultural diversity of all kinds is coming to be not only tolerated but embraced by more and more people. On behalf of the future, with an eye toward how all people may live together in peace on this flat, increasingly diverse and crowded planet, I would love to hear more of your reflections, as well as those of others, on what it was like then to be black and in the O:E and what, with 50 years of experience behind us, we all have learned. A conversation like this could be a fitting tribute to Robert, Nadine, Harold and others now departed who have impacted our community and consciousness over the years. Randy "Listen to what is emerging from yourself to the course of being in the world; not to be supported by it, but to bring it to reality as it desires." -Martin Buber (adapted)

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Re: [Oe List ...] OE Digest, Vol 3, Issue 27
by David Flowers 04 Jun '12

04 Jun '12

Richard Epson - left in '73. Joined the Navy I heard - around '75. On Jun 4, 2012 3:11 PM, <oe-request(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: > Send OE mailing list submissions to > oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > oe-request(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > oe-owner(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of OE digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Being Black in the Order Ecumenical (R Williams) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 13:11:40 -0700 (PDT) > From: R Williams <rcwmbw(a)yahoo.com> > To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Being Black in the Order Ecumenical > Message-ID: > <1338840700.41098.YahooMailNeo(a)web125606.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I'm not sure but I think it was Carlos Ollison. > > > "Listen to what is emerging from yourself to the course of being in the > world; not to be supported by it, but to bring it to reality as it desires." > -Martin Buber (adapted) > > > ________________________________ > From: David Walters <walters(a)alaweb.com> > To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> > Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 3:05 PM > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Being Black in the Order Ecumenical > > > In 1971 Robert Shorpshire, larry Ward another fellow whose name wscapes me > were sent out on a coast to cost trip vistiting black churches. They came > back and gave a long presentation?on their findings. Does anyone remember > who the other man was? > > -David Walters > > --- hfgreene(a)mindspring.com wrote: > > From: "Herman Greene" <hfgreene(a)mindspring.com> > To: "'Order Ecumenical Community'" <oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Being Black in the Order Ecumenical > Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 15:55:24 -0400 > > > I thought of Gene Beazely (sp?). How memorable he was > ? > > ________________________________ > > From:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net [mailto: > oe-bounces(a)lists.wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of Lynda Cock > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 2:41 PM > To: 'Order Ecumenical Community' > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Being Black in the Order Ecumenical > ? > Christine Harris and Melanie were with us in the 5th City House.? I also > remember James Mosely from the Milwaukee Region and Debra Mosely who was > with us in the Washington DC House.? > ? > > ________________________________ > > From:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net [mailto: > oe-bounces(a)lists.wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of Mary Hampton > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 8:33 AM > To: Order Ecumenical Community > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Being Black in the Order Ecumenical > ?In /Summer 70 and the following year I remember James Patterson and > Michael Ware. > ? > mary h > > > > On Jun 3, 2012, at 6:23 PM, "Ann Shafer" <asgoodasitgets(a)hughes.net> > wrote: > And there is my beautiful daughter, Tabitha, who is now living in > Baltimore soon to move to Denver, a successful government worker. She > graduated from Kindergarten at the local school while we lived on Westside. > Ann Shafer > From:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net [mailto: > oe-bounces(a)lists.wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of McCabe, Diann A > Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 1:09 PM > To: Order Ecumenical Community > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Being Black in the Order Ecumenical > Realize I left Marcella off the list I sent earlier?She was a force of > beauty, strength, and humor in the Atlanta House in 74 or so. Went to > Nairobi after that and returned to live in D.C. Is married and has > beautiful daughters.--Diann McCabe > From: Paula Philbrook <paula.philbrook(a)gmail.com> > Reply-To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> > To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Being Black in the Order Ecumenical > She was my roommate in 1969. ? > On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 11:54 AM, R Williams <rcwmbw(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > I have a name in my head that I can't quite put a face with.? Does the > name Marcella Buchanan, or something like that, ring a bell with anyone? > Randy > "Listen to what is emerging from yourself to the course of being in the > world; not to be supported by it, but to bring it to reality as it desires." > -Martin Buber (adapted) > From:James Wiegel <jfwiegel(a)yahoo.com> > To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> > Cc: Order Ecumenical Community <oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> > Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 12:03 PM > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Being Black in the Order Ecumenical > > You sang on the bus all the way to the Bahamas ?? Wow. > > Jim Wiegel > Jfwiegel(a)yahoo.com > > I can't say as I was ever lost, but I was bewildered once for three days.? > Daniel Boone > > > On Jun 1, 2012, at 18:25, "Ann Shafer" <asgoodasitgets(a)hughes.net> wrote: > > > And I so enjoyed working with everyone in Fifth City but most especially > > Velma Brocks who is my daughter, Catherine's, godmother. Velma could say > so > > much without saying anything. She and I handled the Fifth City payroll > for > > awhile. Plus David and I had a wonderful time on the Fifth City to the > World > > trip to the Bahamas so beautifully enabled and spiritized by Alice and > Jim > > Baumbach. Remember Peggy who led the singing on our bus all the way there > > and back? I know the Fifth Citizens were not O:E but they were our > > colleagues and mentors. Ann Stewart Shafer > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: oe-bounces(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > > [mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of David Scott > > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 10:23 AM > > To: Order Ecumenical Community > > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Being Black in the Order Ecumenical > > > > Phylis Christmas > > > > On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Nancy Lanphear <nancy(a)songaia.com> > wrote: > >> Dear Ones, > >> > >> Our common memory is such a gift.? Each of us can let go of some of > >> our worry about loosing our own.? Thanks for sharing your memories with > > me. > >> > >> Love, > >> > >> Nancy > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 7:48 AM, E B <marosel2000(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Who can forget Dawn Lingo and Lynette Shanklin? > >>> > >>> ________________________________ > >>> From: Mary Laura Jones <mljones2022(a)gmail.com> > >>> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> > >>> Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 9:37 AM > >>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Being Black in the Order Ecumenical > >>> > >>> I learned so much from Lois Reeves and Emma Melton in the Cleveland > >>> Region. I am so grateful for their presence in our lives. Many things > >>> they said still make me smile. Their wisdom and leadership were very > >>> important in the ICA's work. > >>> > >>> Mary Laura Jones > >>> > >>> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 9:12 AM, McCabe, Diann A <dm14(a)txstate.edu> > wrote: > >>> > >>> Sharon Turner stands out for me. Vincent Scott and Mary. And deep > >>> colleague in Mississippi, the late Ruth Wilson. > >>> > >>> Diann McCabe > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 6/1/12 8:17 AM, "Nancy Lanphear" <nancy(a)songaia.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Dear Randy, > >>> > >>> I, too would appreciate hearing some of the stories about what it was > >>> like to be black in the Order.? I remember Phoebe Reynolds, Christine > >>> Harris, and some of the children? .... Tad and Todd Mueller, Eric > >>> Shropshire, Adam and Kaira Lingo, Emanuel Ward, Kevin Woodward? ... > >>> I am sorry , who are the others who have slipped through my memory > >>> ...?? Thank you Joyce and Randy > >>> > >>> Nancy > >>> > >>> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 3:55 AM, R Williams <rcwmbw(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Joyce, > >>> > >>> Your brief comment, in remembering Robert Shropshire, about what it > >>> was like to be black and to have been in the O:E has me wanting to > >>> hear more about what that experience was like, and trying to recall > >>> our black Order colleagues prior to our being dispersed around the > >>> globe, embracing cultures of color everywhere. > >>> > >>> In addition to you, Carlos and Shropshire, I remember Larry Ward, > >>> Nadine Ward, Harold Williams and Richard whose last name was, I think, > > Epson. > >>> Other faces are pictured in my mind's eye whose names I cannot > >>> recall.? Who were they? > >>> > >>> My interest is peaked by the fact that the white majority, in the U.S > >>> at least, is shrinking and will likely soon no longer exist, combined > >>> with the fact that there is a glimmer of indication that cultural > >>> diversity of all kinds is coming to be not only tolerated but > >>> embraced by more and more people. > >>> > >>> On behalf of the future, with an eye toward how all people may live > >>> together in peace on this flat, increasingly diverse and crowded > >>> planet, I would love to hear more of your reflections, as well as > >>> those of others, on what it was like then to be black and in the O:E > >>> and what, with > >>> 50 years of experience behind us, we all have learned. > >>> > >>> A conversation like this could be a fitting tribute to Robert, > >>> Nadine, Harold and others now departed who have impacted our > >>> community and consciousness over the years. > >>> > >>> Randy > >>> > >>> "Listen to what is emerging from yourself to the course of being in > >>> the world; not to be supported by it, but to bring it to reality as it > > desires." > >>> -Martin Buber (adapted) > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> OE mailing list > >>> OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > >>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> OE mailing list > >>> OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > >>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> OE mailing list > >>> OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > >>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> OE mailing list > >>> OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > >>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net > >>> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> OE mailing list > >> OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > >> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Margaret and David Scott > > Flathead Valley College > > _______________________________________________ > > OE mailing list > > OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > > http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > > OE mailing list > > OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > > http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net > _______________________________________________ > OE mailing list > OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net > > > > > _______________________________________________ > OE mailing list > OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net > > > -- > Paula? > > Gratitude unlocks the fullness of life. It turns what we have into enough, > and more. It turns denial into acceptance, chaos to order, confusion to > clarity. It can turn a meal into a feast, a house into a home, a stranger > into a friend. Gratitude makes sense of our past, brings peace for today, > and creates a vision for tomorrow. > MelodyBeattie > _______________________________________________ > OE mailing list > OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > > http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net_________________… mailing list > OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net > _______________________________________________ > OE mailing list > OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net >

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Re: [Oe List ...] Being Black in the Order Ecumenical
by David Walters 04 Jun '12

04 Jun '12

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Re: [Oe List ...] OE Digest, Vol 3, Issue 11. Enjoyable White people
by David Flowers 04 Jun '12

04 Jun '12

I'm just wondering if any of our Black colleagues would like to name or describe or tell stories about white people they might remember working with back in the day. (tongue in cheek) :P On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 12:27 PM, <oe-request(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: > Send OE mailing list submissions to > oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > oe-request(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > oe-owner(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of OE digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Being Black in the Order Ecumenical (Herman Greene) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 12:36:41 -0400 > From: "Herman Greene" <hfgreene(a)mindspring.com> > To: "'Order Ecumenical Community'" <oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Being Black in the Order Ecumenical > Message-ID: <4B1A21218342412D9A83F6891589B6C1@dsktp1> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Thanks for the report on Robert Shropshire's funeral. It is so sad to > imagine that such bundled energy passes into the universe. Who knows what > from there? > > As far as being black in the order, in a sense the whole experience of > coming to Summer 67 and then living in Fifth City with EI was all about > meeting black. Those black people in our order stood out. I remember Joe > Matthews once saying "Imagine what I could do if I were black!" He meant > that blacks had a special role to play at that time and a special power. > > But when I talk about meeting black, I mean so many things. I remember the > Saturday night festivals at Summer '67. Black power, black history, the > violence, the delightful bright colleagues in Fifth City, the Fifth City > preschool and project, the Iron Man. They were all part of the order in > those days. There was really no real line between order and community. > > Black transformed me. I will never be the same. > > Herman > > -----Original Message----- > From: oe-bounces(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > [mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of John Cock > Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 8:03 AM > To: 'Order Ecumenical Community' > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Being Black in the Order Ecumenical > > Helen Estridge was her name. > > -----Original Message----- > From: oe-bounces(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > [mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of Ann Shafer > Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 8:32 PM > To: 'Order Ecumenical Community' > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Being Black in the Order Ecumenical > > Yes, we did, Jim, the Fifth City to the World trip where we took the bus > from Chicago to Miami. We chartered a bus. The whole trip cost each person > $200. We raffled off one trip. I organized the itinerary, then Alice and > Jim > Baumbach spiritized it. We had so much fun. When the ship arrived in > Nassau, > the Bahamian Minister of Tourism met the ship and said he was there to > escort the Fifth Citizens. Then he took us on a private tour of Nassau and > a > village they were recreating to look like 100 years ago or so. So much fun. > We ate at colleagues' homes and churches all the way down and back and > slept > on the bus - no stops for sleeping until we got on the ship. Each cabin was > 4 beds, 2 above and 2 below, and was for either men or for women. And get > this - the line was the Costa Line, the one that just had that awful > accident in the Mediterranean. But we had no troubles at all, just a lot of > fun. One lady from Fifth City whose name I don't remember had only one leg > and got around on crutches. She did really well. Watching the Fifth City > women flirt with the Italian waiters on the ship (and vice versa of > course) > was great. Pina coladas cost only 80 cents each on the ship. That I > remember! The year was 1974. Ann > > -----Original Message----- > From: oe-bounces(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > [mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of James Wiegel > Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 12:03 PM > To: Order Ecumenical Community > Cc: Order Ecumenical Community > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Being Black in the Order Ecumenical > > You sang on the bus all the way to the Bahamas ? Wow. > > Jim Wiegel > Jfwiegel(a)yahoo.com > > I can't say as I was ever lost, but I was bewildered once for three days. > Daniel Boone > > > On Jun 1, 2012, at 18:25, "Ann Shafer" <asgoodasitgets(a)hughes.net> wrote: > > > And I so enjoyed working with everyone in Fifth City but most > > especially Velma Brocks who is my daughter, Catherine's, godmother. > > Velma could say so much without saying anything. She and I handled the > > Fifth City payroll for awhile. Plus David and I had a wonderful time > > on the Fifth City to the World trip to the Bahamas so beautifully > > enabled and spiritized by Alice and Jim Baumbach. Remember Peggy who > > led the singing on our bus all the way there and back? I know the > > Fifth Citizens were not O:E but they were our colleagues and mentors. > > Ann Stewart Shafer > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: oe-bounces(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > > [mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of David Scott > > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 10:23 AM > > To: Order Ecumenical Community > > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Being Black in the Order Ecumenical > > > > Phylis Christmas > > > > On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Nancy Lanphear <nancy(a)songaia.com> > wrote: > >> Dear Ones, > >> > >> Our common memory is such a gift. Each of us can let go of some of > >> our worry about loosing our own. Thanks for sharing your memories > >> with > > me. > >> > >> Love, > >> > >> Nancy > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 7:48 AM, E B <marosel2000(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Who can forget Dawn Lingo and Lynette Shanklin? > >>> > >>> ________________________________ > >>> From: Mary Laura Jones <mljones2022(a)gmail.com> > >>> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> > >>> Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 9:37 AM > >>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Being Black in the Order Ecumenical > >>> > >>> I learned so much from Lois Reeves and Emma Melton in the Cleveland > >>> Region. I am so grateful for their presence in our lives. Many > >>> things they said still make me smile. Their wisdom and leadership > >>> were very important in the ICA's work. > >>> > >>> Mary Laura Jones > >>> > >>> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 9:12 AM, McCabe, Diann A <dm14(a)txstate.edu> > wrote: > >>> > >>> Sharon Turner stands out for me. Vincent Scott and Mary. And deep > >>> colleague in Mississippi, the late Ruth Wilson. > >>> > >>> Diann McCabe > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 6/1/12 8:17 AM, "Nancy Lanphear" <nancy(a)songaia.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Dear Randy, > >>> > >>> I, too would appreciate hearing some of the stories about what it > >>> was like to be black in the Order. I remember Phoebe Reynolds, > >>> Christine Harris, and some of the children .... Tad and Todd > >>> Mueller, > Eric > >>> Shropshire, Adam and Kaira Lingo, Emanuel Ward, Kevin Woodward ... > >>> I am sorry , who are the others who have slipped through my memory > >>> ...? Thank you Joyce and Randy > >>> > >>> Nancy > >>> > >>> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 3:55 AM, R Williams <rcwmbw(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Joyce, > >>> > >>> Your brief comment, in remembering Robert Shropshire, about what it > >>> was like to be black and to have been in the O:E has me wanting to > >>> hear more about what that experience was like, and trying to recall > >>> our black Order colleagues prior to our being dispersed around the > >>> globe, embracing cultures of color everywhere. > >>> > >>> In addition to you, Carlos and Shropshire, I remember Larry Ward, > >>> Nadine Ward, Harold Williams and Richard whose last name was, I > >>> think, > > Epson. > >>> Other faces are pictured in my mind's eye whose names I cannot > >>> recall. Who were they? > >>> > >>> My interest is peaked by the fact that the white majority, in the > >>> U.S at least, is shrinking and will likely soon no longer exist, > >>> combined with the fact that there is a glimmer of indication that > >>> cultural diversity of all kinds is coming to be not only tolerated > >>> but embraced by more and more people. > >>> > >>> On behalf of the future, with an eye toward how all people may live > >>> together in peace on this flat, increasingly diverse and crowded > >>> planet, I would love to hear more of your reflections, as well as > >>> those of others, on what it was like then to be black and in the O:E > >>> and what, with 50 years of experience behind us, we all have > >>> learned. > >>> > >>> A conversation like this could be a fitting tribute to Robert, > >>> Nadine, Harold and others now departed who have impacted our > >>> community and consciousness over the years. > >>> > >>> Randy > >>> > >>> "Listen to what is emerging from yourself to the course of being in > >>> the world; not to be supported by it, but to bring it to reality as > >>> it > > desires." > >>> -Martin Buber (adapted) > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> OE mailing list > >>> OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > >>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> OE mailing list > >>> OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > >>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> OE mailing list > >>> OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > >>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> OE mailing list > >>> OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > >>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net > >>> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> OE mailing list > >> OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > >> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Margaret and David Scott > > Flathead Valley College > > _______________________________________________ > > OE mailing list > > OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > > http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > > OE mailing list > > OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > > http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net > _______________________________________________ > OE mailing list > OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net > > _______________________________________________ > OE mailing list > OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net > > _______________________________________________ > OE mailing list > OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > OE mailing list > OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net > > > End of OE Digest, Vol 3, Issue 11 > ********************************* > -- David* There is no cup. It's a flame. Feed the flame. *

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Re: [Oe List ...] Death of Robert Shropshire
by jlepps＠pc.jaring.my 03 Jun '12

03 Jun '12

Thanks, Mary Laura for being the representative of all of us at the celebration of Robert's life. It was full and filled many of us with awe. We gratefully commit him to the Mystery, John At 01:18 PM 6/2/2012, you wrote: >Ken and I have just returned from Robert's >funeral service held at Bethany Evangelical >Lutheran Church on the South Side. The service >was well done with the large church choir >singing a resounding rendition of "When the >Saints Go Marching In". Robert was buried in a blue suit. > >It was wonderful to see and talk to Conna, >Evelyn and her daughter Alexis, Greg and his >wife Autumn, Robert's Mother Evelyn, brother >Kenneth, nephew Eric Shropshire and niece Maija Evans. > >Eric read many of the remembrances you all have >written on this listserve during the service and >they gave a wonderful perspective on Robert's life and contributions. >Anne Townley was there. Rick and Dixie Deines >also attended from Milwaukee. It reminded me of >how many of us came into the Institutes through >those strong Galaxy pastors. Robert was an >active member of their Lutheran Church in >Woodlawn and played a key role in the >development of the "Woodlawn School of Human >Dignity" in the 60s. There were recollections of >his role as a master teacher and a spirit man in >Chicago and around the world with the Ecumenical Institute and the ICA. > >I was thankful to have been able to attend the service. > >Mary Laura > > > > > > >On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 2:23 AM, Isobel and Jim >Bishop ><<mailto:isobeljimbish@optusnet.com.au>isobeljimbish(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: >Dear colleagues, >It has been a very sacred moment reading all the >words of love, and memorable encounters, that >many of us had with Robert. I found myself in >awe as I read and digested each note. > >For me, Robert was also a prophet. > >I remember an occasion when we were both >teaching in the Academy and Robert was >delivering the lecture in the Nation and World >Course. His eyes were far away, as he spoke of >the 'tan man' and he said ' that will be the >next huge upsurge of people power and chaos, ' >or words such as these. It really imprinted >on me how the world/ nation-states/ would be >reconfigured, as balances were changed....... >and I thought of Robert years later, when the Middle East imploded........' >In his book ' Reading The Bible Again For The >First Time' Marcus Borg speaks of ' Prophetic >Energising'. For me, Robert was a real example >of what Borg means, in his Chapter 6. > >Robert, we salute you... from Australia. > > >Isobel Bishop. >On 01/06/2012, at 10:33 AM, ICA wrote: > >>I will always remember Robert as a great >>Teacher, a Truth Teller, a Lover of what has Heart and Meaning. >>Praise the gift of his life and spirit! >>Bob >> >>Dr. Robert True >>True and Dorin Medical Group >>360 Lexington Ave., Suite 1102 >>New York, New York 10017 >><tel:212-826-2525>212-826-2525 >><http://www.truedorin.com/>www.truedorin.com >> >>On May 31, 2012, at 5:06 PM, "Ellen & David >>Rebstock" <<mailto:grapevin2@gmail.com>grapevin2(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>Shrop was my section leader for RS1 in Academy >>>in 1976. I'll never forget his style of >>>addressing our illusions with a HO, Ho, Ho >>>isn't that great. He always said he wished he >>>had the busiiness education that I had. I've >>>always wished I could have told him that his >>>facilitation and people skills were so much >>>more important than what i was doing. I,ll >>>never forget him as a friend and I agree as to >>>his great sense of humor and leadership skill. >>>David Rebstock >>> >>>On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 9:25 PM, Dharmalingam >>>Vinasithamby <<mailto:dvinasithamby@yahoo.com>dvinasithamby(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>Very sad to hear of his passing. We taught >>>together at the Black Academy several times >>>and through him, I got to know about the >>>feelings and hopes of the black community in >>>the 70s. We worked together at Bombay house >>>together as well. I had been trying to track >>>him down all these years with no success. A >>>man with a great sense of humour and passion. >>> >>>Dharmalingam >>> >>> >>>From: George Holcombe <<mailto:geowanda1@me.com>geowanda1(a)me.com> >>>To: Order Ecumenical Community >>><<mailto:OE@wedgeblade.net>OE(a)wedgeblade.net>; >>>ICA LIST SERVE <<mailto:dialogue@wedgeblade.net>dialogue(a)wedgeblade.net> >>>Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 8:15 AM >>>Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Death of Robert Shropshire >>> >>>Conna Wilkerson told me that Robert died >>>Tuesday night at his mother's home in >>>Chicago. A service will be held for him on Saturday. >>> >>>Wanda and I will never forget Robert. When he >>>arrived at Mowanjum, he was the star of the >>>show, everyone thought he was the >>>greatest. Years later Robert and I had a >>>great time playing music at the summer >>>programs. I'm sure others of us have memories of Robert, too. >>> >>>George Holcombe >>>14900 Yellowleaf Tr. >>>Austin, TX 78728 >>>Mobile <tel:512%2F252-2756>512/252-2756 >>><mailto:geowanda1@me.com>geowanda1(a)me.com >>> >>>Hope appeareth, but it is not your Hopeyou do >>>not have anything to do with it. It just >>>appeareth. It comes as a stranger, as an >>>alienit just appeareth! You do not even know >>>why you hope. How in the world could you hope >>>when there is absolutely nothing to justify any hope? ~Joseph W. Mathews >>> >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>OE mailing list >>><mailto:OE@lists.wedgeblade.net>OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net >>>http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net >>> >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>OE mailing list >>><mailto:OE@lists.wedgeblade.net>OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net >>>http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>OE mailing list >>><mailto:OE@lists.wedgeblade.net>OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net >>>http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net >>_______________________________________________ >>OE mailing list >><mailto:OE@lists.wedgeblade.net>OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net >>http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net > > >_______________________________________________ >OE mailing list ><mailto:OE@lists.wedgeblade.net>OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net >http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net > > >_______________________________________________ >OE mailing list >OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net >http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net

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Re: [Oe List ...] Being Black in the Order Ecumenical
by LAURELCG＠aol.com 03 Jun '12

03 Jun '12

Your mention of the Atlanta House reminded me of Ruth Gilbert, who was there with her grandson Dante during the summer '86 Imaginal Education course at Spelman College and Order youth program. I think of her often. Hope I have the name right, a second Ruth Gilbert. Jann McGuire In a message dated 6/3/2012 11:10:01 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, dm14(a)txstate.edu writes: Realize I left Marcella off the list I sent earlier—She was a force of beauty, strength, and humor in the Atlanta House in 74 or so. Went to Nairobi after that and returned to live in D.C. Is married and has beautiful daughters.--Diann McCabe

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Re: [Oe List ...] Being Black in the Order Ecumenical
by KarenBueno＠aol.com 03 Jun '12

03 Jun '12

This reminded me of a story. I was teaching RS1, in Wisconsin, I think, at a mostly all-white church. Our team included Sheila? Smith?, a 5th City preschool teacher, a black community woman. Sheila led the Guernica. She asked the art form question, "What colors do you see?" Someone said, "Flesh color." Sheila, very coolly, responded, "What color is that?" Karen Bueno In a message dated 6/3/2012 2:09:05 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, icabombay(a)igc.org writes: Herman, A couple of personal stories. In 1968 (I believe) the Cleveland Metro organized a Black Heritage course and Harrison Sims arrived as one of the pedagogues. I forgot who the second one was, but he was white. A group of black power people came to the course, determined to disrupt it and get it canceled. We had close to 100 participants. I believe it was in the opening conversation when one of the men stood up and walked out, very slowly and deliberately. A few seconds later, another. Then over the next 2-3 minutes about another half dozen or so did likewise. It was their assumption that others would follow, leaving us with just a few participants and an obvious failure. But no one else left and so after a while the group came back in. They demanded all white people get out (there were just a few metro colleagues there) so we did. Harrison was cool and collected and continued on with the course. I had to leave, but I remember how scared I was and how proud I was of Harrison. The course got great reviews from almost all who attended. A second story. My greatest learning and teaching experience happened when I taught with Carlos Ollison. I was part of the national LENS faculty in the mid-70's and was working at BF Goodrich. On Wednesday, when the assignments post worked out the faculties for each weekend event I got a call (I think from Robert Porter) assigning me to a LENS to be taught at the maximum security prison near Richmond Virginia. Seems the chaplain was an RS I grad and a colleague and had set it up. When I heard what I was to teach and where, I just died inside and said "I'm not sure I can get Friday off" (a lie). A Thursday call came and they said I could arrive on Saturday, no problem. Now I was faced with a moral dilemma, follow my fears and not accept it, or say yes and die! Along with Carlos and Georgeanna McBurney was a woman from the Indianapolis House (forgot her name) who was a professional corrections officer. Carlos started the sessions with a conversation; "Name, Where from, and why are you here"? Around the table we went, "Murder", "Bank Robbery", "Forgery", "Manslaughter, etc. were the answers. Now I was really dying inside. Since LENS is about a group creating a vision for the future and this group had no future, I wanted to just get the hell out of there before something happened! Carlos was just fantastic! He received every answer and then set a context for the 44 hour session. Armed guards were descreetly placed around the edges of the room. We sang, created a vision (this was before the revised LENS), Team 14 Points, and several other documents. We did the Social Process lectures as well as all the conversations. And we sang! At first they were terrible at it, off key and reluctant. But Carlos just boomed it out and soon they did too. By the time we ended I swear I would have put my life in the hands of some of them! What a transformation. Nobody was talking about why they were there, no judgements, just a future to be called forth, which they indeed cared about, even though they were in prison for years to come. At the end Carlos asked them to pick the song they would like to sing to close with. They picked "The Impossible Dream". It was as if grace had filled the room. The voices were firm, on tune and soaring. Afterwards the assistant warden came up shaking his head. All he could say was "I don't believe it, I don't believe it, if I hadn't seen it with my own eyes"! "These men could never say what they did!" He was profoundly moved. Afterward: A week later I got a letter in the mail from one of the participants. I still have it. In part he wrote: "I got back to the cell and I was so sad to see all of you (the four of us) leave. I was sitting there, listening to the radio, when they played The Impossible Dream. I kept asking myself; "Who are these people, and why did they come?" The only answer I could come up with was; "They came because they care". And to think I almost refused the invitation that would change my life forever. Wow! Thank you Carlos, and all the others who opened my eyes (and heart). Grace & Peace, Jack On Jun 3, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Herman Greene wrote: It just struck me that no one has mentioned Harrison Sims (or did I miss him?). Herman ____________________________________ From: _oe-bounces(a)lists.wedgeblade.net_ (mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net) [mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of _LAURELCG(a)aol.com_ (mailto:LAURELCG@aol.com) Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 2:55 PM To: oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Being Black in the Order Ecumenical Your mention of the Atlanta House reminded me of Ruth Gilbert, who was there with her grandson Dante during the summer '86 Imaginal Education course at Spelman College and Order youth program. I think of her often. Hope I have the name right, a second Ruth Gilbert. Jann McGuire In a message dated 6/3/2012 11:10:01 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, _dm14(a)txstate.edu_ (mailto:dm14@txstate.edu) writes: Realize I left Marcella off the list I sent earlier—She was a force of beauty, strength, and humor in the Atlanta House in 74 or so. Went to Nairobi after that and returned to live in D.C. Is married and has beautiful daughters.--Diann McCabe _______________________________________________ OE mailing list _OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net_ (mailto:OE@lists.wedgeblade.net) http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net = _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net

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Re: [Oe List ...] Being Black in the Order Ecumenical
by David Walters 03 Jun '12

03 Jun '12

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Re: [Oe List ...] Death of Robert Shropshire
by George Holcombe 03 Jun '12

03 Jun '12

Conna Wilkerson told me that Robert died Tuesday night at his mother's home in Chicago. A service will be held for him on Saturday. Wanda and I will never forget Robert. When he arrived at Mowanjum, he was the star of the show, everyone thought he was the greatest. Years later Robert and I had a great time playing music at the summer programs. I'm sure others of us have memories of Robert, too. George Holcombe 14900 Yellowleaf Tr. Austin, TX 78728 Mobile 512/252-2756 geowanda1(a)me.com Hope appeareth, but it is not your Hope—you do not have anything to do with it. It just appeareth. It comes as a stranger, as an alien—it just appeareth! You do not even know why you hope. How in the world could you hope when there is absolutely nothing to justify any hope? ~Joseph W. Mathews

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Re: [Oe List ...] Being Black in the Order Ecumenical
by David Walters 01 Jun '12

01 Jun '12

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