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imaginal education
by W. J. 12 Aug '13

12 Aug '13

I recall the issue of IMAGE on 'Youth' was about imaginal education. The publication date was Winter, 1965 (B4 I got myself to 3444). You can read it for yourself at http://wedgeblade.net/gold_path/data/hisj/101078.htm Marshall

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Re: [Oe List ...] OpEd Monday, Aug. 12
by Jaime R Vergara 12 Aug '13

12 Aug '13

Yo, Jack. Colleagues were kind enough not to point out that I mistook Area SF for LA, and Vancouver for Edmonton in the article that made the ST pages today. Too late for corrections. I do like MENA more than NAME. You can tell, I just finally peeked into the Pathway. Re Jack question on HK being at SEAPac, I think it should stay there. For one thing, HK being a part of China have not change the city much other than real estate ownership which is no longer Brit (now, only their surrogates!), and the "two systems, one people" arrangement of China that allows Macau, HK, and Taiwan to operate as special autonomous regions indicates a different way at looking on Beijing beyond treating it like a Washington DC re the United States. I do not recall whether we called it Continent China, which would be a misnomer since one of the Areas is Ulant Batur of Mongolia. Middle Asia is probably more appropriate since the Far East includes Korea and Japan. Middle Asia's names might need to be updated: Beijing for Peking, Chongqing for Chungking, and Guangzhou for Canton, would bring us to current usage. The spelling of Irkutsk need to be corrected. And with Norlisks still restricted to foreigners, maybe I can put Syktyvkar on my list to visit before hanging up the old Nike! j'aime la vie Yesterday, appreciate; tomorrow, anticipate; today, participate. In all, Celebrate! -----Original Message----- From: Jack Gilles <jackcgilles(a)gmail.com> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> Sent: Sun, Aug 11, 2013 12:26 pm Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] OpEd Monday, Aug. 12 Jaime, You can get all the work we have on the golden pathways on grid and gridding by putting the following into your Google search. <grid site: wedgeblade.net>. Here is one of the sites that gives the 54 areas. <http://wiki.wedgeblade.net/bin/view/Main/PlacesIndex> Now that Hong Kong is part of the China continent rather than Seapac so new work needs to be done. I would guess that Manila becomes an area rather than a region. Would love your take on it. Good writing! Jack On Aug 10, 2013, at 11:08 PM, Jaime R Vergara <svesjaime(a)aol.com> wrote: This is primarily for Jack who led us to the book mentioned in the article. I am on the tailend of my writing stint with the Saipan Tribune as it has become obvious I will not be returning to the Marianas anytime soon, if ever. My classes in China begin August 26, which may very well the be last day I submit an article. The article is also an example on how the wisdom of the Order has seeped through our being - from the grid to playing with images. For the curious. Should any other that has been influenced by my association with this listserv, I will post it, with Tim's permission. Which reminds me, how do I assess a copy of the grid, the 54 areas, and the article on gridding itself? Thanks, Jack. Jaime Majulah Singapura We chanced lastSaturday on the National Day Parade of Singapore, a live broadcast from TV’s NewsAsia,and live streamed in the Internet. Singapore glowedin white and red - yellow, green, blue, gray, along all the colors of therainbow, as one group after another, from children to elders, civil andmilitary, paraded and performed for an island massively attired in tropicalcasuals led by the father-son Lee Kwan Yew-Lee Hsien Loong, leaders since thecountry’s inception without forced dynastic succession. Wedged was Goh Chok Tong who followed LKY,was PM for 14 years before LKY’s son, a former General, took over. What made usperk up while watching the show is the recent acknowledgement from the book, The Metropolitan Revolution: How Cities andMetros Are Fixing Our Broken Politics and Fragile Economy, that metropolises in theUS fuel the nation’s economy and is defining a new local polity. The account had columnist Tom Friedman write:“… if you want to be an optimist about America today, stand on your head. The country looks so much better from thebottom up – from its major metropolitan areas – than from the top down … thegreat laboratories and engines of our economy are now our cities.” Wepromoted a trans-rational geo-social grid of the world since the 70s. We divided the world around major metropolitanareas: NYC, Chicago, Houston, LA, Vancouver, and Montreal, for North America, oneof nine continents we identified from three spheres. Sphere West was North America, WesternEurope, and Eurasia (former USSR). Sphere East was SubAsia, China, and SouthEast Asia-Pacifica (SEAPac). SphereSouth was South America, Southern Africa, and North Africa and the Middle East(NAME). NAMEand SEAPac are nebulous. SEAPac to us isa continent of six metropolitan areas: Tokyo, Hong Kong, Singapore, Bangkok,Sydney, and Suva. After the lead of theearthrise image from the moon, the national boundaries so precious to thepost-colonial arrangements faded in the new global configuration. The metropolises were defining political andeconomic arrangements. Singaporewent ahead even in the cultural pole. This year, its theme of “many stories, one Singapore” recognizes thefunction of stories and how unity can be attained in the recognition ofdiversity. Just start with its threemajor languages of Chinese, Malay, and Tamil, and its overarching Singalish, andalready, the cultural challenge is formidable. We’ve felt that Singapore was too small a geography, and too specializedin its financial and commercial practices (thought of Singapore as primarily atransit point that encouraged a lot of bookkeeping shenanigans) that we earlierdismissed it as an exception rather than the rule. Nowcomes an account in the aforementioned book of a metropolitan revolutionstirring in America. Not content to waitfor Washington to get its act together, the authors relate how pragmaticleaders are taking the helm of governance in cities like NYC finallycapitalizing on its diversity; Portland, Oregon, deep in selling“sustainability” solutions to urban problems, and Northeast Ohio where groupsuse industrial-age skills to invent 21st C materials, tools andprocesses. Then there’s Houston helpingimmigrants ascend the employment ladder, Miami forging ties with southern“neighbor” Brazil and other nations, Denver and Los Angeles buildingworld-class urban centers, and even Boston and now bankrupt Detroit findinginnovative ways into the economy of the new century. Comingthrough strongly in their stories are the catalytic and facilitative nature ofthe network of leadership in the new metropolises. Sounds like Singapore. Obviously,Saipan is no Singapore, though some argue that with a Casino in Saipan, itcan. Sorry, folks. Zhongguo already has Macau and Hong Kong, andKorea has offerings we cannot even come close to duplicating for well-offNippon and nouveau riche Renmin. Tinian Casino has yet to make a dime. Nope. Pentagon looms too large in the shadows and we do not have the politicalmuscle of a Guam to assert ourselves beyond being a strategic militarylocation. At best, we can stick ahandout further for more food stamps, or, surreptitiously promote baby tourismsince we do not do money laundering well! Weare not being cynical here, though we are not surprised many of our youngare. We can develop a catalytic andfacilitative leadership style, willing to look reality in the eye, forsake theillusory economic boom in the past (we could not even connect water pipes,though we did provide cushy jobs in government and its agencies) forego thedelusion of grandeur in the future (we are Pentagon’s strategic militarylocation), and live with what we’ve got: a handful of Chamolinians, lots ofChinese, Filipinos, sprinkling of other Micronesians and Austro-Polynesians,Bangladeshis, Pakistanis, Indians, Caucasians via America, Australia, andEurope, Africans from all over, et al. Hey, we have enough ingredients to make up an incredible stew. So, why don’t we? That’swhat we can learn from Singapura – many stories, even many directions, but one concertedendeavor. Biba, Marianas? Jaime Vergara pinoypanda2031(a)aol.com yesterday, appreciate; tomorrow, anticipate; today. participate. 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Fwd: OpEd Monday, Aug. 12
by Jaime R Vergara 11 Aug '13

11 Aug '13

This is primarily for Jack who led us to the book mentioned in the article. I am on the tailend of my writing stint with the Saipan Tribune as it has become obvious I will not be returning to the Marianas anytime soon, if ever. My classes in China begin August 26, which may very well the be last day I submit an article. The article is also an example on how the wisdom of the Order has seeped through our being - from the grid to playing with images. For the curious. Should any other that has been influenced by my association with this listserv, I will post it, with Tim's permission. Which reminds me, how do I assess a copy of the grid, the 54 areas, and the article on gridding itself? Thanks, Jack. Jaime Majulah Singapura We chanced lastSaturday on the National Day Parade of Singapore, a live broadcast from TV’s NewsAsia,and live streamed in the Internet. Singapore glowedin white and red - yellow, green, blue, gray, along all the colors of therainbow, as one group after another, from children to elders, civil andmilitary, paraded and performed for an island massively attired in tropicalcasuals led by the father-son Lee Kwan Yew-Lee Hsien Loong, leaders since thecountry’s inception without forced dynastic succession. Wedged was Goh Chok Tong who followed LKY,was PM for 14 years before LKY’s son, a former General, took over. What made usperk up while watching the show is the recent acknowledgement from the book, The Metropolitan Revolution: How Cities andMetros Are Fixing Our Broken Politics and Fragile Economy, that metropolises in theUS fuel the nation’s economy and is defining a new local polity. The account had columnist Tom Friedman write:“… if you want to be an optimist about America today, stand on your head. The country looks so much better from thebottom up – from its major metropolitan areas – than from the top down … thegreat laboratories and engines of our economy are now our cities.” Wepromoted a trans-rational geo-social grid of the world since the 70s. We divided the world around major metropolitanareas: NYC, Chicago, Houston, LA, Vancouver, and Montreal, for North America, oneof nine continents we identified from three spheres. Sphere West was North America, WesternEurope, and Eurasia (former USSR). Sphere East was SubAsia, China, and SouthEast Asia-Pacifica (SEAPac). SphereSouth was South America, Southern Africa, and North Africa and the Middle East(NAME). NAMEand SEAPac are nebulous. SEAPac to us isa continent of six metropolitan areas: Tokyo, Hong Kong, Singapore, Bangkok,Sydney, and Suva. After the lead of theearthrise image from the moon, the national boundaries so precious to thepost-colonial arrangements faded in the new global configuration. The metropolises were defining political andeconomic arrangements. Singaporewent ahead even in the cultural pole. This year, its theme of “many stories, one Singapore” recognizes thefunction of stories and how unity can be attained in the recognition ofdiversity. Just start with its threemajor languages of Chinese, Malay, and Tamil, and its overarching Singalish, andalready, the cultural challenge is formidable. We’ve felt that Singapore was too small a geography, and too specializedin its financial and commercial practices (thought of Singapore as primarily atransit point that encouraged a lot of bookkeeping shenanigans) that we earlierdismissed it as an exception rather than the rule. Nowcomes an account in the aforementioned book of a metropolitan revolutionstirring in America. Not content to waitfor Washington to get its act together, the authors relate how pragmaticleaders are taking the helm of governance in cities like NYC finallycapitalizing on its diversity; Portland, Oregon, deep in selling“sustainability” solutions to urban problems, and Northeast Ohio where groupsuse industrial-age skills to invent 21st C materials, tools andprocesses. Then there’s Houston helpingimmigrants ascend the employment ladder, Miami forging ties with southern“neighbor” Brazil and other nations, Denver and Los Angeles buildingworld-class urban centers, and even Boston and now bankrupt Detroit findinginnovative ways into the economy of the new century. Comingthrough strongly in their stories are the catalytic and facilitative nature ofthe network of leadership in the new metropolises. Sounds like Singapore. Obviously,Saipan is no Singapore, though some argue that with a Casino in Saipan, itcan. Sorry, folks. Zhongguo already has Macau and Hong Kong, andKorea has offerings we cannot even come close to duplicating for well-offNippon and nouveau riche Renmin. Tinian Casino has yet to make a dime. Nope. Pentagon looms too large in the shadows and we do not have the politicalmuscle of a Guam to assert ourselves beyond being a strategic militarylocation. At best, we can stick ahandout further for more food stamps, or, surreptitiously promote baby tourismsince we do not do money laundering well! Weare not being cynical here, though we are not surprised many of our youngare. We can develop a catalytic andfacilitative leadership style, willing to look reality in the eye, forsake theillusory economic boom in the past (we could not even connect water pipes,though we did provide cushy jobs in government and its agencies) forego thedelusion of grandeur in the future (we are Pentagon’s strategic militarylocation), and live with what we’ve got: a handful of Chamolinians, lots ofChinese, Filipinos, sprinkling of other Micronesians and Austro-Polynesians,Bangladeshis, Pakistanis, Indians, Caucasians via America, Australia, andEurope, Africans from all over, et al. Hey, we have enough ingredients to make up an incredible stew. So, why don’t we? That’swhat we can learn from Singapura – many stories, even many directions, but one concertedendeavor. Biba, Marianas? Jaime Vergara pinoypanda2031(a)aol.com yesterday, appreciate; tomorrow, anticipate; today. participate. In all, celebrate!

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Fwd: OpEd Wednesday August 14
by Jaime R Vergara 11 Aug '13

11 Aug '13

As we continue to celebrate Jan U's completed life (thanks Dorothea for the photo with Abe), I thought I might share with you some reflection at my little patch of geography in the W. Pacific, writing from China. The usual caveat: curious, welcome; not, see you at the bend. Jaime j'aime la vie Yesterday, appreciate; tomorrow, anticipate; today, participate. In all, Celebrate! To: editor <editor(a)saipantribune.com> Sent: Sun, Aug 11, 2013 11:37 am Subject: OpEd Wednesday August 14 Natalis et Fatalis We are making a big deal about August being the month with the most number of birthdays in my immediate relations beginning with mine on the first, and my er lao po on the thirtieth. In between, a neural-challenged daughter turns 21 over pizza on the 10th, a sister makes 59th on the 12th, first daughter turns Four-Oh on the 16th while her son who might also be neural-challenged turns 6 on the 18th, a sister-in-law makes the eternal Pinay age of 29, and my er lao po makes Six-Oh. Two in the immediate circle on the autism syndrome in August makes the month our A-month! Meanwhile, as the swirl of greetings and salutations fly around and about within the family, Jan Ulangca at 78 who just went into Chemo, one of five we light candles for on our ledge mentioned in our May piece on A candle for Janice ("I am not dying, I am dancing") made her “beautiful day, happy to be here” statement a week ago, and we realized the natalis et fatalis are just two sides of the same coin. It is the journey and the pilgrimage in between that counts. The beautiful day, happy to be here phrase comes from a Seattle-based author and editor Jane Lotter who died at the age of 60 last month from cancer but took time to write her own obit, saying with humor and wit that the few advantages of dying of cancer is that you have time to write your own obituary. The obit went cyberspace viral. Being now on 20 days of gruel (oatmeal for breakfast and arroz caldo con chicken and mushroom bullion for lunch and dinner) after contracting gastroenteritis from a cross-country trip from the northeast to the southwest, we are only too conscious of the cutting edge of our own mortality even as we quietly made our 68th turn the first of the month. We have also come to appreciate the Chinese yin-yang to life and death, the latter being a celebration of the life that preceded it, thereby, not necessarily to be grieved but to be completed. I often wondered why families burn incense on the one hand, and play mahjong on the other. It is because, as the living of one’s life is not full outside the relationship with others, the others are also equally obligated to conclude one’s life at the hour of one’s death. Why, they even had paid wailers at one time as part of the orchestrated scenario of one’s sending off! We recall all these as eldest daughter Kristina outside of Chicago marks her Four-Oh, and my grandson Liam blows 6 candles, are joined by Bay Area second daughter Teresa in the candle lighting part. I remember them both as I prepare to meet my classes this semester in a week’s time, printing English songs as part of their oral English encounters. One of those is Satchmo’s classic rendition of What a Wonderful World. Louis Armstrong’s voice is now complemented by a Chinese singer who sings the song in her EnglisCh pronunciation, a point I stress in my class to encourage speakers not to worry about their grammar, accent, and intonation. Most of us know the words to the song, which I quote in full because it expresses better my sentiments this month in the natalis et fatalis of kin and loved ones. I may not have excelled in the traditional role of fathering, but my children are clear that their lives are lived in a wonderful world. I see trees of green, red roses too I see them bloom, for me and you And I think to myself What a wonderful world I see skies of blue, and clouds of white The bright blessed day, dark sacred night And I think to myself What a wonderful world The colors of the rainbow, so pretty in the sky Are also on the faces, of people going by I see friends shaking hands, sayin', "How do you do?" They're really sayin', "I love you" I hear babies cryin', I watch them grow They'll learn much more, than I'll ever know And I think to myself What a wonderful world Yes, I think to myself What a wonderful world Oh, yeah! Green trees and red roses abound, but the skies blue are often gray and gloomy in our smoggy city, and the rainbow from Saipan is tall in Tinian but, unless I mosey over to Dalian, “the colors of the rainbow” resides more in my imagination than as a sight to see. Nevertheless. There lies the key; it is the thinking to one’s self that one lives in a wonderful world, a radical leap of faith that chooses to see life as trustworthy, however it comes. We chose to see the wonder, making life a choice rather than just a happenstance! Our Seattle author even found it wonderful that she could write her own obituary. So, to all candle blowers this month, enjoy a wonderful world! Oh, yeah! Jaime Vergara pinoypanda2031(a)aol.com yesterday, appreciate; tomorrow, anticipate; today. participate. In all, celebrate!

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Re: [Oe List ...] A Book Worth Reading
by Bill Parker 10 Aug '13

10 Aug '13

I recently met with a University President and he had this book on his desk. He said it is the basis of everything he will be talking about in the forseeable future. I, too, am intrigued. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Gilles To: Order Ecumenical Community Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 6:26 PM Subject: [Oe List ...] A Book Worth Reading Dear Colleagues, I believe the gridlock we are seeing on the national scene here in the USA is but a manifestation of the fundamental shift that is taking place in the world's polity system. Some time ago I wrote a talking paper on the emergence of our new world as we spoke about in the Urban Revolution of CS-I. But I now thing it is happening much faster than we had ever imagined. We are rapidly shifting to the primacy of the Regionalis dynamic (Area-Region-Metro) as the key to the new polity. Here is the link to a book I just heard talked about on the PBS news hour. The Metropolitan Revolution: How Cities and Metros Are Fixing Our Broken Politics and Fragile Economy (Brookings Focus Book) I haven't ordered the Kindle edition, but I think this is a book worth reading. Upon reading the reviews you can see it touches a cord with what people intuit is the new direction for our polity. People identify with "place" and the national and state levels don't provide that kind of energy. Here is the paper I wrote. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Grace & Peace, Jack ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dear Colleagues, I believe the gridlock we are seeing on the national scene here in the USA is but a manifestation of the fundamental shift that is taking place in the world's polity system. Some time ago I wrote a talking paper on the emergence of our new world as we spoke about in the Urban Revolution of CS-I. But I now thing it is happening much faster than we had ever imagined. We are rapidly shifting to the primacy of the Regionalis dynamic (Area-Region-Metro) as the key to the new polity. Here is the link to a book I just heard talked about on the PBS news hour. The Metropolitan Revolution: How Cities and Metros Are Fixing Our Broken Politics and Fragile Economy (Brookings Focus Book) I haven't ordered the Kindle edition, but I think this is a book worth reading. Upon reading the reviews you can see it touches a cord with what people intuit is the new direction for our polity. People identify with "place" and the national and state levels don't provide that kind of energy. Here is the paper I wrote. Grace & Peace, Jack ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net

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Remembering Ruth Carter
by Lynda Cock 09 Aug '13

09 Aug '13

The photo in today's posting of Journey Reflection sits on our table as a reminder of a strong Iron Woman and her team of imaginal educators for whom we give great thanks. http://rejourney.blogspot.com/2013/08/we-remember-ruth.html Lynda and John Cock

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Re: [Oe List ...] A Book Worth Reading
by LAURELCG＠aol.com 09 Aug '13

09 Aug '13

The authors of The Metropolitan Revolution were on the PBS Newshour this evening. Good interview. Jann In a message dated 8/8/2013 6:13:45 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, shbuss(a)mac.com writes: Too complicated to get. Could you send as a SIMPLE email attachment? Sarah Sent from my iPad On Aug 8, 2013, at 6:26 PM, Jack Gilles <_jackcgilles(a)gmail.com_ (mailto:jackcgilles@gmail.com) > wrote: Dear Colleagues, I believe the gridlock we are seeing on the national scene here in the USA is but a manifestation of the fundamental shift that is taking place in the world's polity system. Some time ago I wrote a talking paper on the emergence of our new world as we spoke about in the Urban Revolution of CS-I. But I now thing it is happening much faster than we had ever imagined. We are rapidly shifting to the primacy of the Regionalis dynamic (Area-Region-Metro) as the key to the new polity. Here is the link to a book I just heard talked about on the PBS news hour. The Metropolitan Revolution: How Cities and Metros Are Fixing Our Broken Politics and Fragile Economy (Brookings Focus Book) I haven't ordered the Kindle edition, but I think this is a book worth reading. Upon reading the reviews you can see it touches a cord with what people intuit is the new direction for our polity. People identify with "place" and the national and state levels don't provide that kind of energy. Here is the paper I wrote. <Polity Dynamics.odt> Grace & Peace, Jack _______________________________________________ OE mailing list _OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net_ (mailto:OE@lists.wedgeblade.net) http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net = _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net

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Journey to the East
by Rod Rippel 09 Aug '13

09 Aug '13

Marge, Attached is an article inspired, in part,by the idea of an archive as found in JTTE. Sorry I won’t be joining you and co-workers this fall. Rod Rippel

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Re: [Oe List ...] OE Digest, Vol 17, Issue 11
by David Flowers 09 Aug '13

09 Aug '13

Mr. Rippells' post reminded me how my graduate studies at Marquette were on the topic of servant leadership, The modern servant leadership academic college attributes its beginnings to the work of Robert Greenleaf who attributes his servant leadership inspiration to Brother Leo, HH's character in The Journey to the East. Attached is a my chart of Journey to the East - It was a semester project about ten years ago- I'm thinking members of this list might enjoy perusing some section titles - for instance paragraphs 40 - 59 are titled "Faithful Rational Inquiry with regard to the missing Magic". It always cracks me up that we value the magic so much and then insist on spending our time in trying to "rationally" find it. Paradox, irony, folly. My best conclusion is we are artist creatures - HH was a musician. Brother Leo? - I'm guessing his artistic giftedness was a dog trainer. Be who your magic is ... that's where the wonderment happens. Grace and Peace On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 8:39 PM, <oe-request(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: > Send OE mailing list submissions to > oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > oe-request(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > oe-owner(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of OE digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. 8/08/13, Spong: Newsletter Delayed (Ellie Stock) > 2. A Book Worth Reading (Jack Gilles) > 3. Journey to the East (Rod Rippel) > 4. Journey to the East (Rod Rippel) > 5. Re: A Book Worth Reading (Sarah H. Buss) > 6. Re: A Book Worth Reading (Jack Gilles) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 14:04:44 -0400 (EDT) > From: Ellie Stock <elliestock(a)aol.com> > To: dialogue(a)lists.wedgeblade.net, oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > Subject: [Oe List ...] 8/08/13, Spong: Newsletter Delayed > Message-ID: <8D06278E5991FD9-1CAC-27D0(a)webmail-m169.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Bishop Spong Newsletter for Thursday August 8th has been delayed due > to a technical glitch. > > While we fix this situation, you may enjoy viewing videos of Bishop Spong > at the following link: > > http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Bishop+Spong%2Clong > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any questions or concerns, please contact us at > support(a)johnshelbyspong.com or 503-236-3545. > > > > > > > Copyright > ? 2013 ProgressiveChristianity.org, All rights reserved. > You are > receiving this email because you have a membership at johnshelbyspong.com. > Our > mailing address is: > ProgressiveChristianity.org > 708 Broadway > Suite 105 > Tacoma, WA 98402 > > Add us to your address book > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Re: [Oe List ...] A Book Worth Reading
by Jack Gilles 09 Aug '13

09 Aug '13

On Aug 8, 2013, at 8:13 PM, "Sarah H. Buss" <shbuss(a)mac.com> wrote: Too complicated to get. Could you send as a SIMPLE email attachment? Sarah Sent from my iPad Sarah, Sorry about the Polity attachment format. I had redone it as a PDF file. Try this. Jack

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