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Re: [Oe List ...] the end of an era
by LAURELCG＠aol.com 20 Feb '13

20 Feb '13

Our local Presbyterian, Methodist and Anglican churches are all close to death. No full time pastors, and can't afford their retirement payments. Jann McGuire in Lindsay, CA In a message dated 2/19/2013 11:34:29 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, synergi(a)yahoo.com writes: _http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/15/national-council-of-churches-move- to-dc_n_2684882.html?utm_hp_ref=religion_ (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/15/national-council-of-churches-move-… ligion) Not exactly sure what to make of this, but this unravelling may be a sign of the beginning of the end of the institutionalization of ecumenism in the USA. Mr. Rockefeller's vision was to keep all these agencies together in the God Box. BTW I used to work there. Marshall _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net

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Re: [Oe List ...] (no subject)
by Al Lingo 19 Feb '13

19 Feb '13

Whats up this is for your eyes only this is for your eyes only http://www.cnbc.com-2-2013-story.net/ dont show this to anyone see ya later

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Re: [Oe List ...] Question
by LAURELCG＠aol.com 19 Feb '13

19 Feb '13

Thanks for posting Joyce's review, Ken. Jann McGuire In a message dated 2/19/2013 4:34:41 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, hkf232(a)gmail.com writes: So Far From Home Lost and Found in our Brave New World by Margaret J. Wheatley Berrett-Koehler Publishers, 2012 Here's a review of that book written by Joyce Marshall. It appears in the latest issue of the Realistic Living Journal, November 2012. I have not read anything with which I resonate more strongly than this book. Drawing on her work with systems, Wheatley lays out the elements of the world we now live in – robber barons, millions oppressed, ideological dumbing down, manufactured selves, consumerism, distraction, etc. – and how these elements interact, resulting in humanity being Lost. The first step toward being Found is to recognize how profoundly we are Lost. To motivate ourselves by the outcomes we hope to achieve is not appropriate. That kind of hope is the flip side of fear. But there is a different kind of hope – that we will BE hope, be warriors of the spirit. This requires looking directly into the darkness of our times and being brave and decent human beings who face deeply challenging circumstances. As Wendell Berry put it: “No matter how bad things get, a person of good will and some ability can always do something to make it a little better.” Maybe our work won’t be different from what we are now doing, but the context shifts. Expectations and attitudes shift. One aspect of that spirit is avoiding getting caught up in outrage and righteous anger. The truer feeling is being overwhelmed with grief. Allowing ourselves to experience our grief will leave us with greater clarity about how to respond. Wheatley, articulating what I have been sensing for some years now, clarifies a context that I have fuzzily tried to talk about. Her mentors are Chogyam Trungpa and Pema Chodron, and though they are Buddhist, I am happy to follow her call to arms and become a Christian spirit warrior. I would like for all my friends and colleagues who are vocated to serving the world to read this book – yesterday. Joyce Marshall On 2013-02-18, at 7:53 PM, Shelley Hahn wrote: Hi Mom & All, I did a quick search and came across this which may have been the reference that spurred you to buy the book (?): Suggest the reading of Meg Wheatley's latest book So Far From Home. Great statement of the hope beyond hope, in the sense in which Kaz spoke of hope as the greatest temptation. Randy Don't know if that helps. Shelley On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Doris Hahn <_dshahn31(a)gmail.com_ (mailto:dshahn31@gmail.com) > wrote: After I read the little dialogue in which Randy and Jack suggested that Meg Wheatley's book would address the issue, I did a really uncharacteristic thing (at about 9:30 p.m.). I immediately went to Amazon and ordered the book. Now that I have read (and appreciate) it, I want to remember what the issue was to which the book was the answer. Can you refresh my memory--only on this one issue--I won't ask you to do a sweeping job on my memory<330.gif>. I do think Meg Wheatley does a good job, and I certainly believe her answers may be helpful, though I think the spirit work we did is far more sweeping and with more depth. What she has that we didn't is today's world with current issues. Actually, I never did like the "warrior" image, because it is so masculine. However, it now carries a lot of other baggage for me, including the personal (hate, anger, etc) along with the outward destructiveness of war. Maybe this is good archive work if we haven't already done it. In any case, it is a current conversation worth having. Of course, we used war images all the time, but surely there are other current ones that could be motivating. What would we drag out of our corporate memory or current innovation that could lead the way in today's world? Doris Hahn _______________________________________________ OE mailing list _OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net_ (mailto:OE@lists.wedgeblade.net) _http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net_ (http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net) _______________________________________________ OE mailing list _OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net_ (mailto:OE@lists.wedgeblade.net) http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net = _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net

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the end of an era
by W. J. 19 Feb '13

19 Feb '13

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/15/national-council-of-churches-move-… Not exactly sure what to make of this, but this unravelling may be a sign of the beginning of the end of the institutionalization of ecumenism in the USA. Mr. Rockefeller's vision was to keep all these agencies together in the God Box. BTW I used to work there. Marshall

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Question
by Doris Hahn 19 Feb '13

19 Feb '13

After I read the little dialogue in which Randy and Jack suggested that Meg Wheatley's book would address the issue, I did a really uncharacteristic thing (at about 9:30 p.m.). I immediately went to Amazon and ordered the book. Now that I have read (and appreciate) it, I want to remember what the issue was to which the book was the answer. Can you refresh my memory--only on this one issue--I won't ask you to do a sweeping job on my memory[?]. I do think Meg Wheatley does a good job, and I certainly believe her answers may be helpful, though I think the spirit work we did is far more sweeping and with more depth. What she has that we didn't is today's world with current issues. Actually, I never did like the "warrior" image, because it is so masculine. However, it now carries a lot of other baggage for me, including the personal (hate, anger, etc) along with the outward destructiveness of war. Maybe this is good archive work if we haven't already done it. In any case, it is a current conversation worth having. Of course, we used war images all the time, but surely there are other current ones that could be motivating. What would we drag out of our corporate memory or current innovation that could lead the way in today's world? Doris Hahn

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Great Tedx Talk - our moment in history
by LAURELCG＠aol.com 18 Feb '13

18 Feb '13

_Living a Transformational Life_ (http://www.facebook.com/l/OAQG0pphy/integrallife.com/video/living-transform…) _integrallife.com_ (http://www.facebook.com/l/OAQG0pphy/integrallife.com/video/living-transform… -life) In this special TEDx presentation, Robb Smith, social entrepreneur and co-founder of Chrysallis and Integral Life, discusses how we must learn how to live a transformational life if we want to thrive in the complex world we all now inhabit.

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Re: [Oe List ...] Yvonne Stringham's address
by PSchrijnen＠aol.com 17 Feb '13

17 Feb '13

_Yvonne Ford_ (http://telefonbuch-suche.com/yvonne-ford-darmstädter-landstraße-60598-frank…) Darmstädter Landstraße 109, 60598 Frankfurt am Main Still the same place that you would have arrived at, if you had indeed gone to Frankfurt instead of India... best wishes, Paul Paul Schrijnen 13 Bloemfontein Avenue London W12 7BJ +44 7973 206 766 skype: paulus.schrijnen In a message dated 17/02/2013 18:34:48 GMT Standard Time, mhampton(a)att.net writes: Yvonne, are you here? Snail mail address please, from anyone who has it. TY! Mary Hampton _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net

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Yvonne Stringham's address
by mhampton＠att.net 16 Feb '13

16 Feb '13

Yvonne, are you here? Snail mail address please, from anyone who has it. TY! Mary Hampton

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Fwd: WashPost: The best choice for pope? A nun.
by Lucille Chagnon 16 Feb '13

16 Feb '13

Greetings OE Colleagues, My sister Claudia sent me this. I decided to get a kick out of its wide- and wild-eyed dreaming rather than get morose and angry at my Church's centuries-old blind "faith." Please visit my website below. Grace and Peace, Lucille Tessier Chagnon Chincoteague Island, VA www.teachtwo.net Begin forwarded message: > From: noreply(a)washingtonpost.com > Subject: WashPost: The best choice for pope? A nun. > Date: February 16, 2013 9:27:53 AM EST > To: lifeline248(a)aol.com > > E-mail > This page was sent to you by: ctessi(a)gmail.com > Message from sender: In case you missed this one. > The best choice for pope? A nun. > > By > In giving up the papacy, Pope Benedict XVI was brave and bold. He did the unexpected for the good of the Catholic Church. And when it selects a new pope next month, the College of Cardinals should be equally brave and bold. It is time to elect a nun as the next pontiff. > > > > Do you love D.C.? Get the insider's guide to where to stay, what to do and where to eat. Go to www.washingtonpost.com/gog for your guide to D.C. now. > © 2010 The Washington Post Company | Privacy Policy

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Re: [Oe List ...] ARCHIVES
by jlepps＠pc.jaring.my 16 Feb '13

16 Feb '13

Loud & Clear, Marge John Epps At 10:32 AM 2/15/2013, you wrote: >Using this email address which is my own personal address, twice I >sent an email to the ><<mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net>dialogue(a)lists.wedgeblade.net>. >Once I sent an email to the ><<mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net>oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net>. > >I thought that I was on both lists to receive email. I did not >receive any of these three things I sent. > >If anyone receives this email please reply to me as you would to >anyone else that sends something to the list. > > Is there anyone who can tell me if everyone else got these > messages expect me, or if no one got them. > >Is there anyone who can tell me how I can get a message to the >persons on the list? Marge Philbrook >_______________________________________________ >OE mailing list >OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net >http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net

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