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End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested
by Timothy Wegner 27 May '26

27 May '26

Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date. I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in. 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well. 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica? The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the larger community. Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists. Thanks, Tim Wegner

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Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested
by James Wiegel 25 May '26

25 May '26

I just turned 81, Tim, and would like the lists to continue. Would “Colleague Dialogue” be acceptible?? Jim Wiegel “…the long work of turning their lives into a celebration is not easy. Come and let us talk“. The Sunflowers. Mary Oliver > On May 25, 2026, at 1:13 PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: > > Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date. > > I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in. > > 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well. > > 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica? > > The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the larger community. > > Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists. > > Thanks, > > Tim Wegner > > > _______________________________________________ > Dialogue mailing list > Dialogue(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net

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Order Kids Speak!
by David Marshall 05 May '26

05 May '26

Fellow Order Alums, Here is my latest Substack article, reviewing five full-length memoirs or articles from the Order emerging generation, now all grown up. And I preview some more "Order Kids" books or media works I've been hearing about. David Marshall, Moraga, California *ORDER KIDS SPEAK!* Past & Future Memoirs from Order: Ecumenical Children I’m not sure of the exact count, but in its heyday in the 1970s, “The Order: Ecumenical” had upwards of 3,000 full-time members around the world, 500+ of whom were children or teenagers. When I published IRON BOY last June, I exchanged email with a former youngish “Order Adult” (joined as a college student versus 30-somethings as my parents did), who reminded me that my memoir about growing up in the Order was only the third such full-length work among 200 books and periodicals he’d obtained and read from former or current members of the Order: Ecumenical, Ecumenical Institute, or Institute of Cultural Affairs. I was already familiar with two other “Order Kids” memoirs, and shared one more I’d recently read, but was surprised that the “Order Adults” had written so many. I knew some of them, but I had to go on the ICA Global Archives alumni publications page <https://icaglobalarchives.org/resources/> to see for myself. He was right. By and large, the 200 works by Order Adults were very complimentary of what these three interrelated organizations had done, attempted to do, or were still doing. Most were long on mission-speak and intellect, but short on personal narratives and feelings. I’ll give you the names and links to two books by or about founding members that show personal sides as well. The four books and one article I’ll review in this piece are *Hey, White Girl!*, *Grits, Green Beans and the Holy Ghost*, *From the Rockies to the Windy City*, *Iron Boy*, and* Growing Up in the Order*. They are each valuable in describing their personally witnessed chapters of a three-decade experiment that still exists in derivative form today. The chart below shows the approximate timing of when each of us was in the Order and our ages at the time. Each also includes a book review that resonated with other readers. I’ll also mention several projects underway by Order Kids that will certainly add yet more color to this fascinating and troubling story. Authors Years & Ages in Order [image: Timeline-OrderKids-Memoirs.jpg] For the full review, please see my latest Substack article: https://open.substack.com/pub/marshallbooks/p/order-kids-speak?r=23ftwm&utm…

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What's up with Denver Colleagues
by Sunny Walker 01 May '26

01 May '26

Spring greetings! Like our Redlands colleagues (you hear about them from Milan every now and then), Accelerate Neighborhood Climate Action (ANCA) in Denver is on the move. Here's a link to what we're up to at the moment. Have a look (you too can change the future, bend history, right?). https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nKMNZwHgF1iqZSLoAw-5Uat00G9SqJNzILHWXOZ… And I hope you are taking gardening seriously! Peace, Sunny *Sunny Walker * *She/her/hers* *On **Arapaho, Cheyenne, Núu-agha-tʉvʉ-pʉ̱ (Ute), and Očeti Šakówiŋ (Sioux) tribal land* Certified Facilitator (Also Certified ToP Facilitator) ToP Methods Mentor Trainer - Upcoming Courses <https://www.top-training.net/w/> Virtual Facilitation Collaborative Senior Facilitator sunny.sunwalker(a)gmail.com 303-587-3017 For diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging inquiries: sunny(a)diversityinnovators.com www.diversityinnovators.com For virtual facilitation inquiries: sunny(a)virtualfacilitationcollaborative.com www.virtualfacilitationcollaborative.com

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