End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested
Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date. I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in. 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well. 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica? The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the larger community. Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists. Thanks, Tim Wegner
I would suggest one list called “ICA Dialogue”. Karen
On May 25, 2026, at 3:10 PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.
I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.
1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the larger community.
Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
Thanks,
Tim Wegner
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I agree with Karen. Take care, Jo -- Jo Nelson, CPF, CTF <jo.r.nelson@gmail.com> 647 233 6910 "Never doubt that a small group of committed people can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." Margaret Mead On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 4:16 PM Karen Snyder via Dialogue < dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
I would suggest one list called “ICA Dialogue”. Karen
On May 25, 2026, at 3:10 PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue < dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.
I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.
1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the larger community.
Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
Thanks,
Tim Wegner
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On May 25, 2026, at 4:15 PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
I would suggest one list called “ICA Dialogue”. Karen
Agree. Ken
On May 25, 2026, at 3:10 PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.
I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.
1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the larger community.
Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
Thanks,
Tim Wegner
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Thank you--and I agree with Karen's suggestion. Diann McCabe On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:36 PM Ken Fisher via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
On May 25, 2026, at 4:15 PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue < dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
I would suggest one list called “ICA Dialogue”. Karen
Agree. Ken
On May 25, 2026, at 3:10 PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.
I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
to weigh in.
1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If
we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica? the larger community.
Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
Thanks,
Tim Wegner
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Colleagues, News from our OE Community continues being important to me. I join with others in expressing gratitude to you Tim for keeping the dialogue dynamic alive and well within this community. Let's go with the one list. I'd like to call it OE-ICA Dialogue (or oe-ica dialogue). Thanks, Leah
On 05/26/2026 2:57 AM PDT Nancy Lanphear via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
I agree with Karen’s suggestion. Thanks ❤️ Nancy
On May 25, 2026, at 1:43 PM, Diann McCabe via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Thank you--and I agree with Karen's suggestion. Diann McCabe
On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:36 PM Ken Fisher via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
On May 25, 2026, at 4:15 PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
I would suggest one list called “ICA Dialogue”. Karen
Agree. Ken
On May 25, 2026, at 3:10 PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.
I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.
1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the larger community.
Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
Thanks,
Tim Wegner
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I agree with Karen. 1 listserve ICA Dialogue.Jeanette StanfieldSent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada's largest network. -------- Original message --------From: Karen Snyder via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> Date: 2026-05-25 4:17 p.m. (GMT-05:00) To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> Cc: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10@gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical Community <OE@wedgeblade.net> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested I would suggest one list called “ICA Dialogue”. Karen> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10 PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:> > Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.> > I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.> > 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.> > 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?> > The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the larger community.> > Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.> > Thanks,> > Tim Wegner> > > _______________________________________________> Dialogue mailing list> Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net____________... mailing listDialogue@lists.wedgeblade.nethttp://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
One list, ICA Dialogue for ease of recognition. Don Bushman [image: Your profile picture] 828-292-9696 On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 2:11 PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue < dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.
I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.
1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the larger community.
Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
Thanks,
Tim Wegner
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I would vote for one list with a new host. Dick On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:13 PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue < dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.
I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.
1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the larger community.
Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
Thanks,
Tim Wegner
_______________________________________________ Dialogue mailing list Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
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Tim and Richard, thank you for letting us know about the vulnerability of losing mailing lists. Frankly, I know so little about mailing lists that I can offer no helpful response. BUT I DO KNOW THIS: contact with members of the Current-Once & Future EI /OE/ICA is of tremendous value. Dialogue among our colleagues contributes greatly to my physical and mental health. Maybe it also contributes to the world's health. Written access is vital. So, for the next weeks, I will seek to correct my ignorance. Learn about our mailing lists. Make an informed recommendation. Thank you for your work. Vincente Scott Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> ________________________________ From: Dialogue <dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net> on behalf of Richard Alton via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> Sent: Monday, 25 May 2026 16:52:55 To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> Cc: Richard Alton <richard.alton@gmail.com>; Order Ecumenical Community <OE@wedgeblade.net> Subject: [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested I would vote for one list with a new host. Dick On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:13 PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net<mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net>> wrote: Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date. I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in. 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well. 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica? The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the larger community. Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists. Thanks, Tim Wegner _______________________________________________ Dialogue mailing list Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net<mailto:Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net -- Richard H. T. Alton ICA Global Fund United Methodist Creation Care Behold, all things are being made anew T: 773.344.7172 richard.alton@gmail.com<mailto:richard.alton@gmail.com> CAUTION: This email was sent from someone outside of the university. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. s61A4ef3l74X5Sa77QJi
I hate the idea of losing this dialogue altogether. It does seem like one email thread would be adequate. As a 2G member, my interest is actually more on the OE side than ICA, so while it's just semantics, I'd vote for a name that includes OE. Maybe OE/ICA Dialogue? I'm certainly not going to stomp off in huff if you choose to just use ICA. 😄 Thank you so much for all you have done and continue to do, Tim! Fond regards, Shelley Hahn On Mon, May 25, 2026, 5:29 PM Vincente S Scott via OE < oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Tim and Richard, thank you for letting us know about the vulnerability of losing mailing lists. Frankly, I know so little about mailing lists that I can offer no helpful response.
*BUT I DO KNOW THIS: *contact with members of the Current-Once & Future EI /OE/ICA is of tremendous value. Dialogue among our colleagues contributes greatly to my physical and mental health. Maybe it also contributes to the world's health. Written access is vital.
*So, for the next weeks*, I will seek to correct my ignorance. Learn about our mailing lists. Make an informed recommendation. Thank you for your work. Vincente Scott
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> ------------------------------ *From:* Dialogue <dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net> on behalf of Richard Alton via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> *Sent:* Monday, 25 May 2026 16:52:55 *To:* Colleague Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> *Cc:* Richard Alton <richard.alton@gmail.com>; Order Ecumenical Community <OE@wedgeblade.net> *Subject:* [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested
I would vote for one list with a new host. Dick
On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:13 PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue < dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.
I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.
1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the larger community.
Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
Thanks,
Tim Wegner
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I agree with one list, and please keep OE in the name (that's what it was when I got involved). OE/ICA or something like it. Thank you Tim for your ongoing service. Susan S. Fertig-Dykes And the Lord shall guide thee and satisfy thy soul in drought. Isaiah 58:11 Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> ________________________________ From: OE <oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net> on behalf of Shelley Hahn via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> Sent: Monday, May 25, 2026 5:35:24 PM To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> Cc: Shelley Hahn <shelley.l.hahn@gmail.com>; Colleague Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net>; Order Ecumenical Community <OE@wedgeblade.net> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested I hate the idea of losing this dialogue altogether. It does seem like one email thread would be adequate. As a 2G member, my interest is actually more on the OE side than ICA, so while it's just semantics, I'd vote for a name that includes OE. Maybe OE/ICA Dialogue? I'm certainly not going to stomp off in huff if you choose to just use ICA. 😄 Thank you so much for all you have done and continue to do, Tim! Fond regards, Shelley Hahn On Mon, May 25, 2026, 5:29 PM Vincente S Scott via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net<mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net>> wrote: Tim and Richard, thank you for letting us know about the vulnerability of losing mailing lists. Frankly, I know so little about mailing lists that I can offer no helpful response. BUT I DO KNOW THIS: contact with members of the Current-Once & Future EI /OE/ICA is of tremendous value. Dialogue among our colleagues contributes greatly to my physical and mental health. Maybe it also contributes to the world's health. Written access is vital. So, for the next weeks, I will seek to correct my ignorance. Learn about our mailing lists. Make an informed recommendation. Thank you for your work. Vincente Scott Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> ________________________________ From: Dialogue <dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net<mailto:dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net>> on behalf of Richard Alton via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net<mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net>> Sent: Monday, 25 May 2026 16:52:55 To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net<mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net>> Cc: Richard Alton <richard.alton@gmail.com<mailto:richard.alton@gmail.com>>; Order Ecumenical Community <OE@wedgeblade.net<mailto:OE@wedgeblade.net>> Subject: [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested I would vote for one list with a new host. Dick On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:13 PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net<mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net>> wrote: Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date. I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in. 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well. 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica? The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the larger community. Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists. Thanks, Tim Wegner _______________________________________________ Dialogue mailing list Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net<mailto:Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net -- Richard H. T. Alton ICA Global Fund United Methodist Creation Care Behold, all things are being made anew T: 773.344.7172 richard.alton@gmail.com<mailto:richard.alton@gmail.com> CAUTION: This email was sent from someone outside of the university. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. s61A4ef3l74X5Sa77QJi _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE@lists.wedgeblade.net<mailto:OE@lists.wedgeblade.net> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
Onw moew word towards consensus. One list by any name. OE is most my community. OE/ICA is fine. Thank you, Tim for your care and service these many years. Mary On Monday, May 25, 2026 at 10:50:30 PM CDT, Susan Fertig via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: I agree with one list, and please keep OE in the name (that's what it was when I got involved). OE/ICA or something like it. Thank you Tim for your ongoing service. Susan S. Fertig-Dykes And the Lord shall guide thee and satisfy thy soul in drought. Isaiah 58:11 GetOutlook for AndroidFrom: OE <oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net> on behalf of Shelley Hahn via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> Sent: Monday, May 25, 2026 5:35:24 PM To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> Cc: Shelley Hahn <shelley.l.hahn@gmail.com>; Colleague Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net>; Order Ecumenical Community <OE@wedgeblade.net> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested I hate the idea of losing this dialogue altogether. It does seem like one email thread would be adequate. As a 2G member, my interest is actually more on the OE side than ICA, so while it's just semantics, I'd vote for a name that includes OE. Maybe OE/ICA Dialogue? I'm certainly not going to stomp off in huff if you choose to just use ICA. 😄 Thank you so much for all you have done and continue to do, Tim! Fond regards, Shelley Hahn On Mon, May 25, 2026, 5:29 PM Vincente S Scott via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: Tim and Richard, thank you for letting us know about the vulnerability of losing mailing lists. Frankly, I know so little about mailing lists that I can offer no helpful response. BUT I DO KNOW THIS: contact with members of the Current-Once & Future EI /OE/ICA is of tremendous value. Dialogue among our colleagues contributes greatly to my physical and mental health. Maybe it also contributes to the world's health. Written access is vital. So, for the next weeks, I will seek to correct my ignorance. Learn about our mailing lists. Make an informed recommendation. Thank you for your work. Vincente Scott Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone GetOutlook for AndroidFrom: Dialogue <dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net> on behalf of Richard Alton via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> Sent: Monday, 25 May 2026 16:52:55 To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> Cc: Richard Alton <richard.alton@gmail.com>; Order Ecumenical Community <OE@wedgeblade.net> Subject: [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested I would vote for one list with a new host. Dick On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:13 PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date. I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in. 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well. 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica? The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the larger community. Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists. Thanks, Tim Wegner _______________________________________________ Dialogue mailing list Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net -- Richard H. T. AltonICA Global FundUnited Methodist Creation CareBehold, all things are being made anewT: 773.344.7172richard.alton@gmail.com CAUTION: This email was sent from someone outside of the university. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.s61A4ef3l74X5Sa77QJi_______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
Thank you Tim, for supporting these listservs. We have appreciated keeping in touch through the years. Jack and I agree that we should continue one list. Jack’s suggested name is ICA-OE. Thanks again, The Ballards From: Dialogue <dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net> On Behalf Of Timothy Wegner via Dialogue Sent: Monday, May 25, 2026 4:10 PM To: Order Ecumenical Community <OE@wedgeblade.net>; Dialogue List <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> Cc: Timothy Wegner <tim@tswegner.net> Subject: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date. I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in. 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well. 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica? The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the larger community. Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists. Thanks, Tim Wegner
I agree - new host, one list ICA Dialogue. Tim, would you be willing to spearhead that effort as you have in the past? What would you need from the rest of us? Marilyn
On May 25, 2026, at 4:10 PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.
I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.
1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the larger community.
Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
Thanks,
Tim Wegner
_______________________________________________ Dialogue mailing list Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
Yes. New host with one list. ICA Dialogue is okay. (oe-ica) would work for me, too. Sharon On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 2:03 PM Mari Crocker via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
I agree - new host, one list ICA Dialogue. Tim, would you be willing to spearhead that effort as you have in the past? What would you need from the rest of us? Marilyn
On May 25, 2026, at 4:10 PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue < dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.
I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.
1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the larger community.
Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
Thanks,
Tim Wegner
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Marilyn asked: Tim, would you be willing to spearhead that effort as you have in the
past? What would you need from the rest of us? Marilyn
Yes I can spearhead starting a new list. The main help I need is what I am getting here: expression of the desire to continue and ideas for what to call the new list. I am looking at https://www.mailmanlists.net/ as the host. The cost would be $51.61 a year total, which I will happily pay. We can still use the wedgeblade.net domain, which I own. There are good suggestions here for the name of the list itself, after a few days I'll propose what looks like the consensus. Stay tuned! We have until July 21st, but since the new list will likely have a different name than either existing list, I can start it before the old lists expire. My plan is to move all the members from both lists into the new list. There are about 174 in each list, probably mostly the same people. Thanks for all the responses! Keep posting suggestions and questions. Tim
Yay, Tim !!! … ever appreciative, Ken
On May 25, 2026, at 5:57 PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Marilyn asked:
Tim, would you be willing to spearhead that effort as you have in the past? What would you need from the rest of us? Marilyn
Yes I can spearhead starting a new list. The main help I need is what I am getting here: expression of the desire to continue and ideas for what to call the new list.
I am looking at https://www.mailmanlists.net/ as the host. The cost would be $51.61 a year total, which I will happily pay. We can still use the wedgeblade.net <http://wedgeblade.net/> domain, which I own. There are good suggestions here for the name of the list itself, after a few days I'll propose what looks like the consensus. Stay tuned!
We have until July 21st, but since the new list will likely have a different name than either existing list, I can start it before the old lists expire. My plan is to move all the members from both lists into the new list. There are about 174 in each list, probably mostly the same people.
Thanks for all the responses! Keep posting suggestions and questions.
Tim _______________________________________________ Dialogue mailing list Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
Thanks, Tim, for all your work on the list serves--past, present, and future. One list; ICA/OE DialogueEllie Stock(314) 941-9349 On Monday, May 25, 2026 at 03:01:16 PM PDT, Timothy Wegner via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: Marilyn asked: Tim, would you be willing to spearhead that effort as you have in the past? What would you need from the rest of us? Marilyn Yes I can spearhead starting a new list. The main help I need is what I am getting here: expression of the desire to continue and ideas for what to call the new list. I am looking at https://www.mailmanlists.net/ as the host. The cost would be $51.61 a year total, which I will happily pay. We can still use the wedgeblade.net domain, which I own. There are good suggestions here for the name of the list itself, after a few days I'll propose what looks like the consensus. Stay tuned! We have until July 21st, but since the new list will likely have a different name than either existing list, I can start it before the old lists expire. My plan is to move all the members from both lists into the new list. There are about 174 in each list, probably mostly the same people. Thanks for all the responses! Keep posting suggestions and questions. Tim_______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
Tim. You have kept us blessed for many years. I'll go with the consensus on the name. Privileged to be here. And in an OE-styled closing, Grapes & Peas, Sunny *Sunny Walker * *She/her/hers* *On **Arapaho, Cheyenne, Núu-agha-tʉvʉ-pʉ̱ (Ute), and Očeti Šakówiŋ (Sioux) tribal land* Certified Facilitator (Also Certified ToP Facilitator) ToP Methods Mentor Trainer - Upcoming Courses <https://www.top-training.net/w/> Virtual Facilitation Collaborative Senior Facilitator sunny.sunwalker@gmail.com 303-587-3017 For diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging inquiries: sunny@diversityinnovators.com www.diversityinnovators.com For virtual facilitation inquiries: sunny@virtualfacilitationcollaborative.com www.virtualfacilitationcollaborative.com On Mon, May 25, 2026, 3:59 PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue < dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Marilyn asked:
Tim, would you be willing to spearhead that effort as you have in the
past? What would you need from the rest of us? Marilyn
Yes I can spearhead starting a new list. The main help I need is what I am getting here: expression of the desire to continue and ideas for what to call the new list.
I am looking at https://www.mailmanlists.net/ as the host. The cost would be $51.61 a year total, which I will happily pay. We can still use the wedgeblade.net domain, which I own. There are good suggestions here for the name of the list itself, after a few days I'll propose what looks like the consensus. Stay tuned!
We have until July 21st, but since the new list will likely have a different name than either existing list, I can start it before the old lists expire. My plan is to move all the members from both lists into the new list. There are about 174 in each list, probably mostly the same people.
Thanks for all the responses! Keep posting suggestions and questions.
Tim _______________________________________________ Dialogue mailing list Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
Thank you for the past connection, which I heard through the late Mary Lou Vergara and Elsa Barca. One list would be great for Those Who Care. Moving forward together with Grace and Peace. Jailu V. Navarrete On Tue, May 26, 2026 at 12:30 PM Sunny Walker via Dialogue < dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Tim. You have kept us blessed for many years. I'll go with the consensus on the name. Privileged to be here.
And in an OE-styled closing, Grapes & Peas, Sunny
*Sunny Walker * *She/her/hers* *On **Arapaho, Cheyenne, Núu-agha-tʉvʉ-pʉ̱ (Ute), and Očeti Šakówiŋ (Sioux) tribal land*
Certified Facilitator (Also Certified ToP Facilitator) ToP Methods Mentor Trainer - Upcoming Courses <https://www.top-training.net/w/> Virtual Facilitation Collaborative Senior Facilitator sunny.sunwalker@gmail.com 303-587-3017
For diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging inquiries: sunny@diversityinnovators.com www.diversityinnovators.com
For virtual facilitation inquiries: sunny@virtualfacilitationcollaborative.com www.virtualfacilitationcollaborative.com
On Mon, May 25, 2026, 3:59 PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue < dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Marilyn asked:
Tim, would you be willing to spearhead that effort as you have in the
past? What would you need from the rest of us? Marilyn
Yes I can spearhead starting a new list. The main help I need is what I am getting here: expression of the desire to continue and ideas for what to call the new list.
I am looking at https://www.mailmanlists.net/ as the host. The cost would be $51.61 a year total, which I will happily pay. We can still use the wedgeblade.net domain, which I own. There are good suggestions here for the name of the list itself, after a few days I'll propose what looks like the consensus. Stay tuned!
We have until July 21st, but since the new list will likely have a different name than either existing list, I can start it before the old lists expire. My plan is to move all the members from both lists into the new list. There are about 174 in each list, probably mostly the same people.
Thanks for all the responses! Keep posting suggestions and questions.
Tim _______________________________________________ Dialogue mailing list Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
_______________________________________________ Dialogue mailing list Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
One list makes sense. And thanks so much, Tim, for all you've done! And just in case you're comparing options, I'm a member of some lists @ web.net. Ronnie Seagren On Tue, May 26, 2026 at 7:57 PM Jailu Navarrete via Dialogue < dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Thank you for the past connection, which I heard through the late Mary Lou Vergara and Elsa Barca. One list would be great for Those Who Care. Moving forward together with Grace and Peace.
Jailu V. Navarrete
On Tue, May 26, 2026 at 12:30 PM Sunny Walker via Dialogue < dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Tim. You have kept us blessed for many years. I'll go with the consensus on the name. Privileged to be here.
And in an OE-styled closing, Grapes & Peas, Sunny
*Sunny Walker * *She/her/hers* *On **Arapaho, Cheyenne, Núu-agha-tʉvʉ-pʉ̱ (Ute), and Očeti Šakówiŋ (Sioux) tribal land*
Certified Facilitator (Also Certified ToP Facilitator) ToP Methods Mentor Trainer - Upcoming Courses <https://www.top-training.net/w/> Virtual Facilitation Collaborative Senior Facilitator sunny.sunwalker@gmail.com 303-587-3017
For diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging inquiries: sunny@diversityinnovators.com www.diversityinnovators.com
For virtual facilitation inquiries: sunny@virtualfacilitationcollaborative.com www.virtualfacilitationcollaborative.com
On Mon, May 25, 2026, 3:59 PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue < dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Marilyn asked:
Tim, would you be willing to spearhead that effort as you have in the
past? What would you need from the rest of us? Marilyn
Yes I can spearhead starting a new list. The main help I need is what I am getting here: expression of the desire to continue and ideas for what to call the new list.
I am looking at https://www.mailmanlists.net/ as the host. The cost would be $51.61 a year total, which I will happily pay. We can still use the wedgeblade.net domain, which I own. There are good suggestions here for the name of the list itself, after a few days I'll propose what looks like the consensus. Stay tuned!
We have until July 21st, but since the new list will likely have a different name than either existing list, I can start it before the old lists expire. My plan is to move all the members from both lists into the new list. There are about 174 in each list, probably mostly the same people.
Thanks for all the responses! Keep posting suggestions and questions.
Tim _______________________________________________ Dialogue mailing list Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
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I'm for option 2. Keeping in touch with the Order/Institute folk is important to me. I'm not fussy about what to call it.Carleton StockOberlin, Ohio On Monday, May 25, 2026 at 03:12:20 PM CDT, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date. I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in. 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well. 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica? The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the larger community. Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists. Thanks, Tim Wegner _______________________________________________ Dialogue mailing list Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
Thank you Tim for nurturing us all these years with connection! Merge into one list send responsible. Names are symbolic. The wedge blade was a common symbol of both organizationally but it doesn’t resonate with me right now. I am in favor of OE~ICA holding the space for now until we have a different plan. Paula Philbrook Personal Mission Statement: *I nurture love, peace & harmony in every situation for my caring family, disempowered communities, and our precious planet.* On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 6:55 PM carletonstock--- via OE < oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
I'm for option 2. Keeping in touch with the Order/Institute folk is important to me. I'm not fussy about what to call it. Carleton Stock Oberlin, Ohio
On Monday, May 25, 2026 at 03:12:20 PM CDT, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue < dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.
I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.
1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the larger community.
Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
Thanks,
Tim Wegner
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Thank you Paula. Paul and myself agree with your suggestion. Beret On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 7:21 PM Paula Philbrook via Dialogue < dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Thank you Tim for nurturing us all these years with connection!
Merge into one list send responsible.
Names are symbolic. The wedge blade was a common symbol of both organizationally but it doesn’t resonate with me right now.
I am in favor of OE~ICA holding the space for now until we have a different plan.
Paula Philbrook
Personal Mission Statement: *I nurture love, peace & harmony in every situation for my caring family, disempowered communities, and our precious planet.*
On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 6:55 PM carletonstock--- via OE < oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
I'm for option 2. Keeping in touch with the Order/Institute folk is important to me. I'm not fussy about what to call it. Carleton Stock Oberlin, Ohio
On Monday, May 25, 2026 at 03:12:20 PM CDT, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue < dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.
I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.
1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the larger community.
Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
Thanks,
Tim Wegner
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I agree with the lists being combined into one...and appreciate all those who have kept each of the lists functioning and have offered to keep it going. It would be helpful if there was a "Master List" kept at the Archives if Karen is willing for this to happen.....and maybe this is already happening. Thanks to ALL🌎🌏🌍 Wanda Holcombe wandah8010@gmail.com 512-619-3469 On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 7:26 PM Beret Griffith via Dialogue < dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Thank you Paula. Paul and myself agree with your suggestion. Beret
On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 7:21 PM Paula Philbrook via Dialogue < dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Thank you Tim for nurturing us all these years with connection!
Merge into one list send responsible.
Names are symbolic. The wedge blade was a common symbol of both organizationally but it doesn’t resonate with me right now.
I am in favor of OE~ICA holding the space for now until we have a different plan.
Paula Philbrook
Personal Mission Statement: *I nurture love, peace & harmony in every situation for my caring family, disempowered communities, and our precious planet.*
On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 6:55 PM carletonstock--- via OE < oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
I'm for option 2. Keeping in touch with the Order/Institute folk is important to me. I'm not fussy about what to call it. Carleton Stock Oberlin, Ohio
On Monday, May 25, 2026 at 03:12:20 PM CDT, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue < dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.
I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.
1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the larger community.
Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
Thanks,
Tim Wegner
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Many of my other lists have been replaced by Google Lists. We need to have a alternative List to continue. Wesson E Gaige wesgaige@mac.com
On May 25, 2026, at 19:36, Wanda Holcombe via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
I agree with the lists being combined into one...and appreciate all those who have kept each of the lists functioning and have offered to keep it going.
It would be helpful if there was a "Master List" kept at the Archives if Karen is willing for this to happen.....and maybe this is already happening.
Thanks to ALL🌎🌏🌍 Wanda Holcombe wandah8010@gmail.com <mailto:wandah8010@gmail.com> 512-619-3469
On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 7:26 PM Beret Griffith via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net>> wrote:
Thank you Paula. Paul and myself agree with your suggestion. Beret
On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 7:21 PM Paula Philbrook via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net>> wrote:
Thank you Tim for nurturing us all these years with connection!
Merge into one list send responsible.
Names are symbolic. The wedge blade was a common symbol of both organizationally but it doesn’t resonate with me right now.
I am in favor of OE~ICA holding the space for now until we have a different plan.
Paula Philbrook
Personal Mission Statement: I nurture love, peace & harmony in every situation for my caring family, disempowered communities, and our precious planet.
On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 6:55 PM carletonstock--- via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net>> wrote:
I'm for option 2. Keeping in touch with the Order/Institute folk is important to me. I'm not fussy about what to call it. Carleton Stock Oberlin, Ohio
On Monday, May 25, 2026 at 03:12:20 PM CDT, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net>> wrote:
Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.
I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.
1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the larger community.
Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
Thanks,
Tim Wegner
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Both Paul Noah have appreciated being in contact through the lists. One list would work. Beret Griffith & Paul Noah On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 6:55 PM carletonstock--- via OE < oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
I'm for option 2. Keeping in touch with the Order/Institute folk is important to me. I'm not fussy about what to call it. Carleton Stock Oberlin, Ohio
On Monday, May 25, 2026 at 03:12:20 PM CDT, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue < dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.
I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.
1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the larger community.
Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
Thanks,
Tim Wegner
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I hope we can have a way to stay connected as the Orders Ecumenical, or what ever we name it. I’m unclear as to which option is the best but I trust your wisdom with others input the best solution for us to stay connected. Bill Parker
On May 25, 2026, at 3:12 PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.
I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.
1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the larger community.
Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
Thanks,
Tim Wegner
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Thanks Tim, for making this transition to one list possible with this email. Karen suggested ICA Dialogue. Sounds fine with me. Paul
On 25 May 2026, at 22:10, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.
I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.
1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the larger community.
Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
Thanks,
Tim Wegner
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Hi Tim, Thanks for the information. I would like to continue on the second option. Don P.S. I am visiting Karen Snyder at the ICA Archives this August 6-7. Hope to see others, too. :-)
On May 26, 2026, at 5:10, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.
I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.
1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the larger community.
Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
Thanks,
Tim Wegner
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Yes, option 2 but encourage maintaining OE in the list name at least for several more years depending on generational turnover. Thanks for the heads-up. -- Ken Gillgren kgillgren@igc.org
On Monday, May 25, 2026 at 1:11 PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net (mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net)> wrote: Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.
I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.
1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the larger community.
Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
Thanks,
Tim Wegner
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I appreciate your support on the lists for all these years and hope we can create one list to continue. I guess I like OE-ICA Dialogue as the name. On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 4:11 PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue < dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.
I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.
1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the larger community.
Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
Thanks,
Tim Wegner
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Chiming in for having one list, and prefer ICA Dialogue, although ICA/OE Dialogue has a nice ring to it as well. Nancy Trask On Tue, May 26, 2026 at 7:41 AM Marilyn Oyler via Dialogue < dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
I appreciate your support on the lists for all these years and hope we can create one list to continue. I guess I like OE-ICA Dialogue as the name.
On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 4:11 PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue < dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.
I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.
1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the larger community.
Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
Thanks,
Tim Wegner
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