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Re: [Dialogue] [Oe List ...] Join us to study TEN LESSONS FOR A POST-PANDEMIC WORLD by Fareed Zakaria
by carletonstock@aol.com 16 Dec '20
by carletonstock@aol.com 16 Dec '20
16 Dec '20
Sounds good.Carleton Stock
-----Original Message-----
From: Jean Watts via OE <oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net>
To: Jim Wiegel <jfwiegel(a)yahoo.com>
Cc: Jean Watts <jeankwatts(a)gmail.com>; Colleague Dialogue <dialogue(a)lists.wedgeblade.net>; Order Ecumenical Community <oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net>
Sent: Fri, Dec 11, 2020 10:00 am
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Join us to study TEN LESSONS FOR A POST-PANDEMIC WORLD by Fareed Zakaria
I will be thereJean
On Dec 10, 2020, at 5:47 PM, James Wiegel <jfwiegel(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
Excerpt from the attached review: "Oh, no, not a book about the pandemicjust a few months into Covid-19. Not another series of snapshotsovertaken by tomorrow’s events. FareedZakaria, aCNN host with a Ph.D. from Harvard, does not fall into this trap.Wisely, he stays away from the dailybattles over masks and lockdowns. Nor is doom-mongering his business.Instead “Ten Lessons for a Post-Pandemic World” employs a widelens, drawing on governance, economics and culture. Call it “appliedhistory.” What insights does it offer during a catastrophe thatevokes the Spanish flu after World War I, which claimed 50 million —some reckon 100 million — lives?"We are planning to start January 4 at 7-8 pm Central Standard Time (Chicago time) We will probably use Zoom as a way to connect. Send word if you are interested.
Jim Wiegel
Theunknown is what is. And to be frightened of it is what sends everybodyscurrying around chasing dreams, illusions, wars, peace, love, hate, allthat. Unknown is what is. Accept that it's unknown, and it's plainsailing. John Lennon
401 North Beverly Way,Tolleson, Arizona 85353623-363-3277jfwiegel(a)yahoo.com
<Ten LESSONS REVIEW.docx>
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John Burbidge asked me to post this blurb about his new book on the mailing
lists. Here it is:
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Dear colleagues and friends,
I’m delighted to announce the publication of my latest book, *MORE THAN
HALFWAY TO SOMEWHERE*, a collection of 12 stories inspired by my travels to
15 countries.
In it you’ll meet some of the most remarkable people I’ve encountered and
share in some of the more challenging moments I’ve faced, many from my time
with the ICA. Initial reader responses have been most encouraging. As one
person put it:
*This is not a travel book. It’s an encounter with life at its depths,
lived with an open heart and mind and great sensitivity.*
This is my first attempt at self-publishing under the imprint of
Wordswallah Publishing. The book is available as a print-on-demand
paperback and an e-book from retailers worldwide via the distributor
IngramSpark. US residents can obtain signed copies from me if desired.
Details about the book and how to order it are on my new author website
www.wordswallah.com, best viewed on desktop, laptop or tablet. Check it out.
Happy reading!
John
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Re: [Dialogue] Join us to study TEN LESSONS FOR A POST-PANDEMIC WORLD by Fareed Zakaria
by James Wiegel 12 Dec '20
by James Wiegel 12 Dec '20
12 Dec '20
Great, Jean,
Also, can you describe a little your idea of some sort of guided dialogue via Zoom? What would it look like, how might it work? Would you be the guide? Might “post pandemic” be a focus?
Jim Wiegel
“A revolution is on the horizon: a wholesale transformation of the world economy and the way people live.” Fred Krupp
> On Dec 11, 2020, at 9:00 AM, Jean Watts <jeankwatts(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I will be there
> Jean
>
>> On Dec 10, 2020, at 5:47 PM, James Wiegel <jfwiegel(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Excerpt from the attached review: "Oh, no, not a book about the pandemic just a few months into Covid-19. Not another series of snapshots overtaken by tomorrow’s events. Fareed Zakaria, a CNN host with a Ph.D. from Harvard, does not fall into this trap.
>> Wisely, he stays away from the daily battles over masks and lockdowns. Nor is doom-mongering his business. Instead “Ten Lessons for a Post-Pandemic World” employs a wide lens, drawing on governance, economics and culture. Call it “applied history.” What insights does it offer during a catastrophe that evokes the Spanish flu after World War I, which claimed 50 million — some reckon 100 million — lives?"
>> We are planning to start January 4 at 7-8 pm Central Standard Time (Chicago time) We will probably use Zoom as a way to connect.
>> Send word if you are interested.
>>
>>
>> Jim Wiegel
>>
>> The unknown is what is. And to be frightened of it is what sends everybody scurrying around chasing dreams, illusions, wars, peace, love, hate, all that. Unknown is what is. Accept that it's unknown, and it's plain sailing. John Lennon
>>
>>
>> 401 North Beverly Way,Tolleson, Arizona 85353
>> 623-363-3277
>> jfwiegel(a)yahoo.com
>>
>>>
>>> <Ten LESSONS REVIEW.docx>
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>> <Ten LESSONS REVIEW.docx><Ten Lessons Chart.jpg>
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I am interested in the study
> 1. Join us to study TEN LESSONS FOR A POST-PANDEMIC WORLD by
> Fareed Zakaria (James Wiegel)
>
> Subject: [Dialogue] Join us to study TEN LESSONS FOR A POST-PANDEMIC WORLD
> by Fareed Zakaria
> Excerpt from the attached review: "Oh, no, not a book about the pandemic
> just a few months into Covid-19. Not another series of snapshots overtaken
> by tomorrow’s events. *Fareed Zakaria <https://fareedzakaria.com/about>*,
> a CNN host with a Ph.D. from Harvard, does not fall into this trap.
> Wisely, he stays away from the daily battles over masks and lockdowns. Nor
> is doom-mongering his business. Instead “Ten Lessons for a Post-Pandemic
> World” employs a wide lens, drawing on governance, economics and culture.
> Call it “applied history.” What insights does it offer during a catastrophe
> that evokes the Spanish flu after World War I, which claimed 50 million —
> some reckon 100 million — lives?"
> We are planning to start January 4 at 7-8 pm Central Standard Time
> (Chicago time) We will probably use Zoom as a way to connect.
> Send word if you are interested.
>
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12/10/2020, Progressing Spirit, Rev. Gretta Vosper: Except for God… freedom never kneels; Spong revisited
by Ellie Stock 10 Dec '20
by Ellie Stock 10 Dec '20
10 Dec '20
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| Essay by Rev. Gretta Vosper
December 10, 2020
It has been a burdensome year and it is likely to get worse before it is over.
I begin this article on the morning after the convicted felon and twenty-four- day National Security Advisor, Michael Flynn, recently pardoned by the United States’ sitting-in-a-golf-cart President, called upon that President to invoke martial law as a means to take back the country from the results of its most recent democratic election. I needn’t go into the details of that election and its aftermath; the whole world has been watching and, in the weeks to come, may see its outcome responded to with more than rude and vocal civic unrest. I hope that is not so, but those with significant platforms, like Flynn and the President of the United States of America, are tossing seeds of sedition on ground made fertile by the anger of those who see themselves as the dispossessed. It may result in a harvest that has always cost human community much throughout the many times and civilizations into which it has been sown, not one of which was brought in or put down without the spilling of innocent blood.
What’s Up with the Evangelical Fervor?
Do you remember coughing up your morning coffee when, way back in 2016, videos of Donald Trump bragging about grabbing pussy hit mainstream media? I do. And I’m not even American. But my coffee splurt was punctuated with a smirk of incredulity, so sure was I that no one in America could possibly take Trump seriously, and even if some of them did, there was no way he’d ever make it to the White House. A few weeks later, that smirk was proverbially wiped off my face. And seriously, I haven’t smirked since. Indeed, I may never smirk at anything that comes out of an American election campaign again.
As evangelical Christians flocked to support the most egregiously disrespectful and crude president America had seen since Lyndon Johnson, those of us in the liberal wing of the institution stared in disbelief. How could people who call themselves Christian support the likes of Donald Trump?
Don’t bother answering that. In an article published by Christian Headlines, columnist Scott Slayton includes as the third thing Christians need to know about Donald Trump’s faith (right before the fourth thing which is that Trump seems to have changed his mind about forgiveness…) the fact that the man has the “Vocal and Public Support of Several Prominent Evangelical Leaders”. Small point, I know, but that doesn’t actually say anything about Donald Trump’s faith as the article’s title promised. What it does say is everything about the desire of Several Prominent Evangelical Leaders for power in the White House, a power with considerably more real-time real-world impact than the otherworldly god in whom they profess belief.
...........Several of the leaders have trumpeted Trump as one of the best
...........friends evangelicals have ever had in the White House. Jerry
...........Falwell, Jr. said that in Trump “evangelicals have found their
...........dream president, adding that “I’ve never seen a White House
...........have such a close relationship with faith leaders than this one (sic).”[1]
Still, the 2020 election result suggests that Public Religion Research Institute CEO Robert P. Jones was right when he argued The End of White Christian America [2] is nigh.
What’s God Got to Do with It?
When Michael Flynn tweeted out the We the People Convention press release[3] calling for martial law with the phrase “Freedom never kneels except for God” in the body of his tweet, my reaction was to be expected. My physical reaction, that is. I can chart the course of anger as it parades across my brain affecting my heart rhythm, my breathing, and the dull presage of a headache. It’s not that I’m angry at Flynn. He may be lamentably and dangerously stupid, but I’m not angry at him. I’m angry at the easy availability of the word “God” to punctuate patriotism, to rally a call to arms, to ennoble any position, no matter how irresponsibly reckless it may be. Haven’t we done that enough already?
The truth is that many of us have learned and so we usually read tweets like Flynn’s and blow them off. We know better than to use God for our own purposes; it is easy to dismiss those who do. Our side of the tradition has learned how problematic self-justification in the faith is. We hobble ourselves with the academic deconstruction of traditional texts and the beliefs built upon them, remind ourselves that there is no ultimate power that can show us the way or the truth, humble our blind arrogance with the stories of those who took up the shield of faith blindly and arrogantly before us, and challenge our truths over and again until there is little left of them other than the belief that they must never be taken as truths. We have been taught, and taught others, that god is love, that faith is the cost of that love, and that we must always explore our intention, our personal investment, our prejudice, and our privilege as we seek to live out that love. It has not been simple. Quite the contrary. It’s been a bitch.
Which is why my body heads toward that classic stress response when I read stuff like Flynn’s tweet. But not just stuff like Flynn’s tweet. Anything that uses the word “God” as though it is an umbrella term for something everyone will understand makes my heart lurch to attention. What does the being we have given the name God, in whom most liberals and progressives do not literally believe, have to do with it the things we must deal with in the here and now? In two words: E.V.E.R.Y.T.H.I.N.G. and N.O.T.H.I.N.G.: Every purpose to which it is attached that has a human desire behind it, none of which results can be directly attributed to the actions of such a fictional being. We who identify as liberals or progressives must stop supporting the illusion that we give credence to this charade. We can only do so by refusing any non-expletive-use of the word “god”. The risks that have caused us to maintain the illusion of our belief are no longer relevant. There are bigger concerns at hand.
Tillich: Having Our God and Eat It, Too
When in theological college, I hated Tillich. I think it had something to do with being a single parent struggling with regular migraines and an inability to retain auditory learning a.k.a. lectures. Or maybe it was just that Tillich didn’t make any sense to me, no matter how I laboured over his work. Who knows?
Over time, I’ve come to appreciate what he was trying to do, however, and can say that I truly admire his fortitude in that undertaking. But I’m seriously pissed that he managed to pull it off. Because he’s the reason anyone can call on the god called God to underscore any endeavour they want to promote for whatever reason they might want to promote it, most of which has nothing to do with the god Tillich was so creatively reconstructing. Tillich laboured long and hard to give us our god and let us eat it, too.
In The Faith of a Heretic, the late German-American philosopher and poet, Walter Kaufman, considered Tillich’s enduring work. Recognizing that Tillich’s definitions of theists and atheists seem to reverse standard understandings, that is, those who believe in the traditional “ancient beliefs of Christendom, the Apostles’ Creed, or Luther’s articles of faith may well be lacking faith, while the man who doubts all these beliefs but is sufficiently concerned to lie awake nights worrying about it is a paragon of faith,”[4] Kaufman effectively exposes Tillich’s purpose: to provide a faith for those who have explored beyond the boundaries of literal faith while preserving the dignity of those who have not had the opportunity or courage to do so.
...........Taken literally, Tillich considers the Christian myths untenable;
...........but “the natural stage of literalism is that in which the mythical
...........and the literal are indistinguishable,” and this is characteristic of
...........“the primitive period of individuals and groups. … This stage has
...........a full right of its own and should not be disturbed, either in
...........individuals or in groups, up to the moment when man’s
...........questioning mind breaks the natural acceptance of the
...........mythological versions as literal.”[5]
We have had these arguments reiterated by scholars such as the late Marcus Borg who spoke of pre- and post-critical naivete. Heading back into the literature and language of faith with a post-critical naivete rooted in scholarship and a scientific worldview, we encounter a rich environment for metaphor and interpretation. Progressives everywhere, eager to retain the community, elegance, liturgy, and meaning of their Christian tradition, revel in it. It allows us to have our cake and eat it, too.
Is this what we want? Is this what we need RIGHT NOW? To keep the waters of faith literally undisturbed? To hold onto the privileges of a religious tradition no matter what it might cost or how it might play out at the hands of others?
Every time liberal and progressive Christians, particularly leaders, use the word God when our beliefs do not align with the ancient, traditional Christian beliefs about God still held by others to be true, or that do not meet the definitions hammered out in the creeds and articles of faith of our traditions, many still recited with the formal dignities of former generations, whenever we call upon the god called God in services of worship or public gatherings, or use words of faith metaphorically, we swallow the truth of what we believe so that we and others might not choke on it.
I know how important those in the pews are to those who lead them. But the world’s concerns are bigger than those of the people in the pews and there are many ways to be pastoral. Miscreants who use a pre-scientific idea of God to serve themselves at the peril of the world, its people, its life, its future, must not be encouraged. Liberal and progressive leaders in congregations around the world who refuse to believe in the god of ancient creeds, the god Tillich refused, must refuse the words that keep such a god alive.
If not God, then what?
Perhaps it is helpful to explore god, as did Tillich, as a concept. Most progressives and liberals do so already, but we don’t often think about the implications of that. Concepts have no power to act except through those who hold them. Freedom is a concept. Without someone acting on behalf of that concept, freedom is only so many words on a page. Animate it, and it can be one of our most beautiful and powerful ideals.
Let’s return to Flynn’s tweet “Freedom never kneels except for God.” A powerful and dangerous statement because the explication of what God wants is always up for grabs. You don’t need to honor the outcome of a democratic election; oil your gun and call on your God’s support for martial law. You don’t need to wear a mask in the midst of a pandemic; if you perish or cause someone else to, you’re uncompromised: it was your God’s plan. You don’t need to stand up for the rights of those who look, speak, or love differently than you; your God gives you the privilege to ignore their plight. You don’t need to be celibate even if no woman will sleep with you: your God gave you that penis and the right to use it. Yes. It can quickly get obscene. That’s my point.
There is no need to call out God in front of your friends or congregations. There is no need to declare war on the word or chastise those who use it differently than do you. There is a simple way to be a person of faith without denying the gods in which others believe: refuse to use the word. Every time it would flow from your lips (which, for progressives, is almost exclusively in church), exercise your brain in pursuit of some new way to say what you mean. Speak about the actions you feel compelled to undertake. Speak about the rights you feel compelled to protect. Speak about the people you refuse to neglect. Speak about the future you will die trying to save. Speak about your truth. Speak only about your truth.
When we do, we find there are many things to which our freedom might bow, the most poignant of which, for me, is the future I create but will never see: the air I will never breathe, the rain I will never watch fall; the forests through which I will never walk. My everything (my “god” were I to use the term) is what comes next and the choices I make that will impact the world I leave to future generations. For that, I will freely and willingly take a knee. What will it be for you?
~ Rev. Gretta Vosper
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About the Author
The Rev. Gretta Vosper is a United Church of Canada minister who is an atheist. Her best-selling books include With or Without God: Why The Way We Live is More Important Than What We Believe, and Amen: What Prayer Can Mean in a World Beyond Belief. She has also published three books of poetry and prayers. Visit her website here.
[1] Scott Slayton, “5 Things Christians Should Know about the Faith of Donald Trump.” Christian Headlines, November 29, 2019. https://www.christianheadlines.com/contributors/scott-slayton/things-christ…, accessed December 3, 2020. (Punctuation, grammar as published.)[2] Robert P. Jones, The End of White Christian America, Simon and Schuster, 2016.[3] Please forgive me for not linking you to the We the People Convention page. It’s bad enough that I’ve even mentioned them…[4] Walter Kaufman, The Faith of a Heretic: What can I believe? How should I live? What do I hope? (Anchor Books: New York, 1963) p. 118. Quoting Paul Tillich, Dynamics of Faith, (Harper: New York, 1957), p. 52f.[5] Ibid. |
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Question & Answer
Q: By Martin
I am officially a Roman Catholic. Over the past 10 years I have suffered a number of adverse life experiences which have seriously weakened the aforementioned faith. Basically I am still sort of Christian. What I believe is that the very early church i.e. “Gnostics” got it right as regards such things as having to subscribe to a detailed set of beliefs, variations in human sexuality. I was taught that the Emperor Constantine “saved Christianity “. I believe that he changed it from a group of “seekers after truth” to a bunch of “yes men”. I believe that what we have in “mainstream” Christianity today is what Bishop Spong described as the “winning side” rather than the “right side”. I’m old. I’m not as incapacitated as some people of my age. But, strangely enough, I still care about what I believe in. Please Help !
A: By Kevin G. Thew Forrester, PhD
Dear Martin,
I am wondering about what you have suffered over these past ten years and its impact upon your heart, mind, and body. I’m also aware of the ageism that plagues our culture and its assumption that with age inevitably comes incapacity, rather than perspective, generosity, and a graceful latitude.
What I hear arising from your words is possibly an awakening of the heart that also carries within it a sense of loss. I am curious about your understanding of personal evolution with “weakened…faith.” I am impressed by the courage to question the assumed belief-set of your formative years. Clearly, the life of your soul, as expressed in your inquisitive mind and your heart of care, has not remained static. I hear words of someone who has been willing to allow their experience of suffering to school their soul and grow even if it has meant leaving behind the security of once held doctrine (and perhaps relationships). It would seem that pursuing truth is more important to you than conformity to hollow beliefs. If so, that is a blessing. If this impression is accurate, then my sense is that while your “belief” in antiquated teachings is diminishing, at the same time your authentic faith is maturing. And maturation, whenever and however it occurs, involves “loss” of what we have previously taken ourselves to be.
A final observation: One of the gifts of the internet is discovering kindred souls on life’s spiritual journey. I would encourage you to avail yourself of this “great cloud of witnesses” – courageous and creative people who can listen, converse, and be of support.
~ Kevin G. Thew Forrester, PhD
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About the Author
Kevin G. Thew Forrester, Ph.D. is an Episcopal priest, a student of the Diamond Approach for over a decade, as well as a certified teacher of the Enneagram in the Narrative Tradition. He is the founder of the Healing Arts Center of in Marquette, Michigan, and the author of five books, including I Have Called You Friends, Holding Beauty in My Soul’s Arms, and My Heart is a Raging Volcano of Love for You and Beyond my Wants, Beyond my Fears: The Soul’s Journey into the Heartland. Visit Kevin’s Blog: Essential Living: For The Soul’s Journey.
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Bishop John Shelby Spong Revisited
The Origins of the New Testament, Part XX:
Seeing the Crucifixion as Related Liturgically to the Passover
Essay by Bishop John Shelby Spong
April 15, 2010
The first narrative of Jesus’ crucifixion to be written achieved its shape and form in Mark’s gospel, specifically in 14:17-15:47. Prior to this, all the Christians had in writing was one line from Paul: “Jesus died for our sins in accordance with the scriptures.” Not a single narrative detail was given by Paul. Perhaps there were no narrative details to be given since Mark’s gospel is quite specific in 14:50 that, when Jesus was arrested, “They all took flight and fled.” This would mean that Jesus died alone without any eye witnesses.
That would be a shattering insight to many since we have literalized the details we have in Mark’s gospel down to recording not just what Jesus said from the cross, but what Jesus and the high priest said to each other, and even what Jesus and the crowd said to each other. One might wonder who was present to record all of these words of conversation. The overwhelming probability is that the familiar details of the cross are not the result of historic memory at all, but are rather liturgical interpretations of who it was who died on the cross and what his death meant. A quick analysis of the details from this narrative reveals that they were drawn not from the memory of eye witnesses, but from the scriptures of the Jewish people, primarily from Psalm 22 and Isaiah 53. So even the central story of the final events in Jesus’ life now looks more like the work of an interpretative imagination than it does the work of a historian.
>From Psalm 22, Mark drew many of the familiar elements of his story, including first the cry of dereliction, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” with which that psalm opens. Next Mark refers to the attitude of the mocking crowd, “shaking their heads” and stating that, “since he trusted in God, let God deliver him,” which Mark has incorporated almost verbatim into his narrative (Ps. 22:8). The notion of disjointed bones (Ps. 22:14), the reality of thirst (Ps. 22:15) and the “piercing of his hands and feet” (Ps. 22:16) are notes also found in this psalm which Mark has clearly drawn into his portrait, as well as the reference to the soldier’s parting his garments and casting lots for his robe (Ps. 22:18). When it becomes obvious that the words used to describe the crucifixion are drawn from a work written at least 400 years before the events being described, then it is surely clear that this is not “eye-witness” reporting.
>From Isaiah 53, which is part of a portrait that this author, called II Isaiah, paints of a figure he calls the “Servant,” or the “Suffering Servant” of the Lord, Mark incorporates into his account of the death of Jesus the picture of one “despised and rejected,” a “man of sorrows and one acquainted with grief (Is. 53:3),” to say nothing of the image of being “wounded for our transgressions” and “bruised for our iniquities (Is. 53:5).” The “Servant” in Isaiah, like Jesus in Mark, “is silent before his accuser (Is. 53:7).” Of Isaiah’s “Servant” it was said, “with his stripes we are healed (Is. 53:5),” language that later informed the Christian idea of Jesus in the substitutionary theory of the atonement.
This identification becomes even more exact when we read in Isaiah that the “Servant” will be numbered among the transgressors (Is. 53:12), which in time gave substance to the story introduced by Mark of Jesus being crucified between two thieves. Isaiah also stated that this “Servant” would, in his death, “make his grave with the rich (Is. 53:9),” which eventually led to Mark’s story of his being buried in the tomb of Joseph of Arimathea, who was “a ruler of the Jews” and thus a person of means.
As much as this knowledge flies in the face of a familiar literalism, which has been carved in stone for us in such artifacts of our worship as the “Passion of Jesus” set to music by J. S. Bach, the traditional Good Friday liturgies of the church through the ages and in such ecclesiastical habits as sermons preached on the “seven last words” supposedly spoken by Jesus from the cross, the truth is that Mark’s story of the crucifixion is not the remembered history of an eye witness at all, but second generation interpretations of Jesus’ death shaped by biblical sources that had fed Jewish messianic expectations through the ages drawn, as they were, directly from the Hebrew Scriptures. So our first step in understanding the familiar story of the cross is to free our minds from any assumption that we are reading history. What we are reading is the interpretation of Jesus’ death as his Jewish disciples had come to understand it.
The second step in this eye-opening process is to notice that this first narrative story of the cross was itself crafted by Mark to serve as a liturgical reenactment of the meaning of Jesus’ passion. Current studies of 1st century Judaism inform us that the Jews observed Passover in a family setting that usually consumed about three hours. Included in these three hours were the family gathering, various games played to enhance the holiday spirit, the meal itself which included feeding “on the body of the lamb of God,” as well as the use of the various symbols of their past like bitter herbs and unleavened bread, which reminded them of their life in slavery and their hasty exodus from Egypt. Following the meal the youngest boy in the family would say to the senior patriarch of the family, “Father, why is this night different from all other nights?” which would give the head of the household the chance to relate the story of the Exodus and thus to recount the moment of their birth as a nation. The meal would then conclude with the singing of a hymn, and the family members, who did not live in this house, would depart into the night for their own houses.
Church historians and liturgical scholars have discovered some evidence that by the latter years of the second century CE, Christians were observing the passion of Jesus by stretching the three-hour Passover celebration of the Jews into a twenty-four hour vigil. The question is, when did that vigil practice begin? I think the evidence in Mark’s story of the Passion is that it began very early, certainly prior to the writing of this first gospel, for the outline of a twenty-four hour vigil is in the text of Mark itself. If we look at Mark’s story of the Passion (Mark 14:17-15:47) and if we study the text carefully we can see the outline of a twenty-four hour vigil. It is a twenty-four hour narrative that runs from sundown on what we now call Maundy Thursday to sundown on what we now call Good Friday. Let me point out the time markers that are in the text itself of Mark’s gospel. Mark 14:17 has Jesus arrive with the twelve at a house in Jerusalem for the Passover “in the evening,” that is at sundown or approximately 6 pm. Mark has earlier given us the details of the preparation the disciple band has undergone to ready a place for this night. The supper is then described and Mark says the evening ended with the singing of a hymn and Jesus and his disciples went into the night. It is thus now about 9 pm. Then they went to the Garden of Gethsemane where the disciples were not able, without falling asleep, to watch with him “one,” “two,” or “three” hours, which would carry the vigil to midnight. In 14:43 Mark then relates the act of betrayal at midnight, making the darkest deed in history occur at the darkest moment of the night. It is dramatically powerful, but hardly historically accurate.
Following the arrest comes the trial before the high priest and the chief priest which is told from 14:53-65 and which carries us to 3 am. The watch of the night between 3 am and 6 am is called “cockcrow,” and into these three hours Mark has placed the story of Peter’s threefold denial (14:66-72), presumably one denial for each hour of that watch until the cock crows and the broken Peter is portrayed as weeping.
Then the text says (15:1) that “when morning came,” which means it is now about 6 am, and this is the time to which Mark has assigned the trial before Pilate (15:1-14). The story of Barabbas and the torture by the soldiers, complete with purple robe and a crown of thorns, are also described in this segment. Mark then informs us (15:35) that it was the third hour when they crucified him, or 9 am. The drama of the cross reaches its crescendo when, in verse 33, the text says “when the sixth hour,” or noon, comes darkness covers the earth until the 9th hour, or 3 pm, when Jesus utters his cry of dereliction and dies. When we arrive at 15:42, we are told of his burial before “evening came,” or about 6 pm. For the Jews, Sabbath started at sundown on Friday, not at midnight. The fact that they did not have time to complete the burial process before the Sabbath began, is Mark’s segue to explain just why it was that the women had to come with embalming spices at dawn on the first day of the week and thus set the stage for the Easter story.
Vestiges of the twenty-four hour vigil still exist in liturgical churches today. The climax of Holy Week begins with the Maundy Thursday service commemorating the establishment of the Eucharist. This is followed by a stripping of the altar until it is left bare and tomblike. The Sacrament is then placed into the ambry and worshipers are invited to keep watch through the night. Sometimes churches organize the vigil to make certain that some members are always present. On Good Friday, the elements are distributed from the Reserved Sacrament since the somberness of the day precludes a “celebration” of the Eucharist. Then comes the three-hour service with worshipers observing that time when darkness was covering the earth between 12 noon and 3 pm. Then Jesus’ rest in the tomb is marked on “holy Saturday” until the fires are lit that evening at the first “Mass of Easter.” The tradition is ancient. The Easter Vigil was observed, I am now convinced, before the first gospel was written. Mark did not create it; Mark observed it and wrote his gospel account of the Passion to help people act it out.
It was thus the liturgical life of the synagogue, and not the remembered life of Jesus, that was the organizing principle in Mark’s first written gospel. He in turn set the example for Matthew and Luke to follow. As we turn to consider those two gospels, we will see how both expanded and lengthened Mark, but neither ever challenged his organizing principle, which was and is the annual cycle of the liturgical life of the synagogue.
~ John Shelby Spong
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12/03/2020, Progressing Spirit: Kevin Forrester: Grateful & Communal Creatures: ZOOM & The Dynamic Reality Of Being Saved; Spong revisited
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Grateful & Communal Creatures:
ZOOM & The Dynamic Reality Of Being Saved
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| Essay by Kevin G. Thew Forrester, Ph.D.
December 3, 2020
Surprising Reality of Being in Covid
When you gaze up into the night sky, perhaps from the sateen darkness of Glacier National Park, or the cozy vestibule of your backyard, what do you see? Pin-wheeling galaxies? Endless expanse of interstellar space? Familiar special neighbors such as Orion or Ursa Major?
Whatever your eyes behold is received through story, probably intertwining and commingling narratives. A story of 13 billion years of expanding evolution whose ancient light is landing just now upon your retina. A story of cosmos-as-creation, dynamically unfolding, moment-to-moment, each arising a surprise and replete with mystery. For some, this is a narrative of the power of pure chance at work on both cosmic and microcosmic scales; for others, a story of the bodying-forth of Holy Mystery in which Being emerges from the emptiness of non-Being. Yes, chance is at play but within the wider and deeper Reality of Love.
When the beauty of evolution is received and understood within the larger, or meta-, narrative of the bodying-forth of Being, what we behold when we truly behold anything is the Presence of Holy Mystery. Spirituality and science are twin offspring of the same mother – the dynamic Reality of Being – offering complementary understandings and appreciations of Reality. Without spirituality, science can readily devolve into a scientism that flattens Reality, unable to account for the bountiful Mystery of Being; without science, spirituality thins out into naïve spiritualism, a magical thinking divorced from the dynamic laws of nature. Together, spirituality and science can open our consciousness to surprising ways Being manifests in this time of Covid.
Grateful (Eucharistic) Creatures
It is Moses – representing humanity’s spiritual awakening – who begins to realize that the name of Reality he has been encountering is “I am who I am.” Moses and the Israelites, and through them the people of the West, are initially discovering the truth that Being is the Reality we refer to as “God.” God is not a thing, or a law, or a ritual, but simply “I am,” which means Being. Moses and the people are afraid that as they continue their journey, they will be alone. But Moses, listening to the voice of his heart (which is humanity’s heart), realizes that “I am who I am” will be with them – is with them – as Being. So, they may be at rest.
2300 years later the Irish theologian and philosopher, John Scotus Eriugena, would, in his own way, deepen our understanding of Moses’ realization. Being, or God, is our true nature as human creatures. Our bodies are from dust, but even this dust is not absent of Being. The 20th century German Jesuit theologian, Karl Rahner, deepened further the implications, enabling us to speak of creation itself as the Ursakrament, which simply means the fundamental sacrament. Why? Because creation, simply as it is, only exists because Being is its true nature. Nature is and always has been supernatural, or a graced-Reality. Holy Mystery is the essence of creation. Not the essence only of human beings. Not the essence only of mammals. Not the essence only of animals. Not the essence of only select bits and pieces. No. Holy Mystery is the essence of all that is. Spiritually, the evolving cosmos is telling the sacramental story of the gracious unfoldment of creation.
Albert Einstein’s scientific theory of relativity, so elegantly and simply expressed in E=mc2, also enriched our appreciation further. What appears as solid and inert to our senses is actually energy, dynamic and fluid. All that is, regardless of its form, is spiritually speaking a manifestation of arising Being. There are no exceptions: from comets to computers, from insects to internet.
Since everything is a manifestation, a bodying-forth, of Being, the cosmos – known in the Christian story as the Body of Christ – is sheer gift as the womb of unfolding life. Each creature is a Christ by nature and by calling, as it lives into and slowly realizes the truth of its Being.
As we gaze up into the night sky, or into the endless depths of our lover, or at the resplendent shimmering beauty of a sea anemone, how then do we receive what and who we behold? Our heart, when honest and vulnerable as an open womb, receives the beauty with grateful thanksgiving (which is to say, eucharistically). We are awed and humbled beyond words that this cosmos is the intimate bodying-forth of Holy Mystery. When we grow callous or forgetful, our heart longs once again for the moon to press its face against ours and remind us of this truth of who and what we are.
Spiritually, to the degree we are awake to Reality as the Body of Christ, we are grateful, eucharistic, creatures. The universe nourishes us without reserve and without thought because its nature is effusive Being. The liturgical eucharist is not a magical exception to life within a barren and inert universe, but rather is an embodiment, an expression in, of, and through which we recognize and celebrate that Being is the Reality of creation, and we are humans of Being. To be human is to be a eucharistic being.
Communal Creatures
Being bodies-forth as dynamic and evolving energy. Reality, never stagnant, is continually changing in its myriad modes of manifesting. No particular manifestation is ever without Being as its true nature, even when distorted and destructive. To draw upon Paul, there is no “height, nor depth, nor any other created thing” that can separate us from Being, or from the love which is God made manifest in Christ. The life of Jesus clarifies for us that the nature of Being is Boundless Love even in the cold, dark, vacuum of interstellar space or interpersonal relationships.
As our species evolves and our awareness matures, new circumstances give rise to new modalities not experienced previously. In this time of Covid, so-called “virtual” reality is one of these relatively new modes of manifestation. Often, I hear leaders and members of religious traditions, for whom the practice of liturgical Eucharist is integral to their spirituality, lamenting the doctrinal “fact” that “Communion” is not possible because we can no longer be present together. All we have is the “virtual” gathering, utilizing “virtual” as a synonym for “not real.”
But that is neither my experience nor understanding. Over many years of being with persons on Skype and Zoom, there is clearly a sense of Being’s Presence when we are consciously present with one another. This “created thing” of the internet is not a wall inhibiting real presence but a new threshold. Being is creatively manifesting itself in a mode that is novel and must be learned through experience. Too often prejudicial doctrine prevents us from listening to and learning from what our own hearts and bodies are experiencing. I continually encounter via Zoom participants feeding and really being fed by one another, as they learn to become attuned to the Presence of Being manifesting here and now in a new way.
The Dynamic Reality of Being – Nothing “Virtual” about It
“Virtual” is not simply a misnomer when it comes to accurately describing “being with one another” via a new modality, it is deeply mistaken about the very nature of Reality. When we are consciously present with one another, whatever the modality, we are Really with one another. There is nothing “virtual” about the experience. The modality, such as the internet, significantly shapes the experience. That is true. And we must learn to discern the Presence of Being, of Holy Mystery, within this new form. How we are present to Being adapts with the circumstances – but that is always the case. Each modality of the presence of Being has its strengths and weaknesses. However, as humans of Being, our hearts, minds, and bodies are always already in union with one another (communion). Our task is to discover how that is happening in this new modality.
Gaze gratefully up into the heavens above or deep within the one lying beside you. Share a congregational meal via Zoom, or coffee for two within a six-foot arc of loving-kindness. As humans of Being we are eucharistic by nature and communion is our relational Reality. The grace within Covid is the discovery of learning to respond and be attuned to the circumstances that the dynamic Reality of Being offers. We are gratefully learning to participate in real communion in a new modality. Our maturation lies in our practice of sensing into this new modality of Being’s presence and discovering how to awaken to its vitality.
~ Kevin G. Thew Forrester, Ph.D.
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About the Author
Kevin G. Thew Forrester, Ph.D. is an Episcopal priest, a student of the Diamond Approach for over a decade, as well as a certified teacher of the Enneagram in the Narrative Tradition. He is the founder of the Healing Arts Center of in Marquette, Michigan, and the author of five books, including I Have Called You Friends, Holding Beauty in My Soul’s Arms, and My Heart is a Raging Volcano of Love for You and Beyond my Wants, Beyond my Fears: The Soul’s Journey into the Heartland. Visit Kevin’s Blog: Essential Living: For The Soul’s Journey.
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Question & Answer
Q: By Matt
I'm an interested non-believer who is very fond of progressive faith traditions and their communities. I just finished reading the chapter in the book Kissing Fish on "Evil and Theodicy" because that is one of two biggest stumbling blocks to faith of any kind for me (the other is that I am extremely hesitant to infer any kind of divine being as an explanation for anything, out of fear that it might prove to be a god-of-the-gaps argument). I have to say that I have more respect for panentheism than classical theism because it at last respects the problem of evil and suffering more than classical theism. However, I want to ask a question: can God (from a panentheistic view) perform a miracle in history such as the bodily resurrection of Jesus?
A: By Rev. Roger Wolsey
Dear Matt,
I'm delighted that you're reading my book and that you are resonating with the theology I am suggesting in that chapter. Different panentheists may answer your question differently. Many progressive Christians embrace the idea of a spiritual resurrection of Jesus instead of a physical one. It was a spiritually resurrected Jesus that Saul encountered on his famed road to Damascus, and if it was good enough for Paul, it's good enough for us!
As a panentheist who embraces process theology, I would say, no - God isn't able to violate the laws of physics and "do a physical resurrection" - at least not as that's traditionally understood. I would say, however, that God and certain humans co-creatively "resurrected" Jesus within the life of those early followers of Jesus who were grieving his death - through remembrances and epiphanies such as the one that happened on the road to Emmaus. They came to realize that the truth of the Way that Jesus had been teaching (the way of compassion, unconditional love, forgiveness, restorative justice, mercy and loving-kindness) really and truly does provide vital and transformative life - abundant and eternal. And that it can't be killed. Those who came to this realization are those who Jesus continues to "live in" and as such, they, collectively, are the living Body of Christ. So, in a way, that is a physical resurrection - embodied in the lives of the community of believers.
~ Rev. Roger Wolsey
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About the Author
Rev. Roger Wolsey is a United Methodist pastor who resides in Grand Junction, CO. Roger is author of Kissing Fish: Christianity for people who don’t like Christianity and blogs for Patheos as The Holy Kiss and serves on the Board of Directors of ProgressiveChristianity.Org. Roger became “a Christian on purpose” during his college years and he experienced a call to ordained ministry two years after college. He values the Wesleyan approach to the faith and, as a certified spiritual director, he seeks to help others grow and mature. Roger enjoys yoga; playing trumpet; motorcycling; and camping with his son. He served as the Director of the Wesley Foundation campus ministry at the University of Colorado in Boulder for 14 years, and has served as pastor of churches in Minnesota, Iowa, and currently serves as the pastor of Fruita UMC in Colorado, and also serves as the "CRM" (Congregational Resource Minister/Church Consultant) for the Utah/Western Colorado District of the Mountain Sky Conference.
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| Advent is here!
The season of Advent begins tomorrow. Each year, as we hear the familiar stories of Jesus’ birth, we are challenged anew to see how radical they really are. Matthew lifts up women in Jesus’ genealogy and portrays the Holy Family as refugees who flee to Egypt. Luke portrays Jesus’ birth in a manger surrounded by animals and lowly shepherds. Regardless of the historicity of these events, reading the stories reminds us each year that Jesus’ ministry was to those who were marginalized by society. Advent acts as an invitation for us to reflect on how we relate today to those who find themselves in similar circumstances to the people in the birth narratives. How is it that we care for those who are oppressed or impoverished on both personal and system levels?
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Bishop John Shelby Spong Revisited
The Origins of the New Testament, Part XIX:
How the Synagogue Shaped the Gospel of Mark
Essay by Bishop John Shelby Spong
April 8, 2010
Has it ever occurred to you that Mark, the first gospel to be written, was in fact a Jewish book created in the synagogue and organized according to the liturgical pattern of synagogue worship? Such an idea sounds very strange to modern Christian people for it carries our imaginations far beyond the boundaries inside which we Christians are comfortable. I would like, however, in this column to show you that this claim is in fact accurate.
The first thing we need to embrace in order to study the gospels properly is the history of anti-Semitism in the Christian Church. I learned most of my anti-Semitism in my Sunday school as a child. In my printed Sunday school material I was never introduced to a good Jew! All of the Jews in the Jesus story appeared to me to be sinister and hostile; the bad guys in the drama, always out to get Jesus. They had names that I was taught to disrespect like Judas Iscariot, Annas, Caiaphas, Sadducees, Pharisees and scribes. No one in my Sunday school ever told me that Jesus was a Jew. When I saw pictures of him, he looked rather Nordic, with blond hair, blue eyes and a fair skin. I thought he must have been a Swede! I was also never told that the twelve disciples were Jews, that Paul and Mary Magdalene were Jews, that all of the writers of the books in the Bible were Jews, with the only possible exception being Luke, who appears to have been born a Gentile, but to have converted to Judaism.
Our cultural anti-Semitism has actually served to blind us to the deep roots in Judaism that the Christian story possesses. All Christians are “spiritual Semites.” Judaism is the womb in which we were conceived and the faith tradition in which Christianity was nurtured until the church and the synagogue parted company in a rather unpleasant manner around the year 88 CE. Embrace that date if you will. The Christian movement did not separate itself from Judaism until some 58 years after the crucifixion of Jesus! This means that, at the very least, the gospel of Mark and the gospel of Matthew were written before the Christians separated from the synagogue. While Luke’s gospel may have come after the split, it is based so deeply on Mark that it too bears the stamp of the time when Christians and Jews both worshiped together Sabbath by Sabbath in the synagogue. The disciples of Jesus at this time were not called “Christians” but “The Followers of the Way,” and they were regarded by the Orthodox power center of Judaism as a group of Jewish Revisionists who were dedicated to incorporating Jesus into the ongoing Jewish story as prophets like Isaiah, Amos and Micah had themselves once been incorporated. All of this means that the primary place the stories of Jesus were remembered and recalled during the “oral period” of Christian history was in the synagogue at a Sabbath day service. In that liturgy, first the Torah and then the prophets would be read, interspersed with Psalms. Next, the assembled worshipers would be solicited for their comments on the scripture readings. In this manner, the disciples of Jesus recalled events and teachings in Jesus’ life and related these to the lessons just read. Soon the scriptures began to be understood by these disciples as pointing to Jesus and even to being fulfilled in Jesus. Inevitably, these Jesus stories were also incorporated into the annual cycle of feasts and fasts regularly observed in the synagogue. Ultimately, forming a consistent and set body of material, these stories were gathered together in the order of the Jewish liturgical year. It was this custom that ultimately shaped the gospel of Mark.
With this order in place in Mark, when Matthew and Luke used Mark as the basis of their volumes they inevitably adopted the same liturgical frame of reference. Even with Mark in common, Matthew and Luke differed since they reflected two very different Jewish world views, Matthew being traditional and Luke reflecting the world of dispersed Jews into whose life gentiles were constantly coming. Still the first three gospels had so many similarities that the three of them came to be known as the “synoptic gospels,” the reflections of those who had seen (optic) with (syn) their own eyes. While that eyewitness claim is now dismissed as factually accurate, the essential unity and internal dependency of these three gospels is still widely asserted. Matthew has in fact included about 90% of Mark in his narrative and most of it almost verbatim. Luke, a bit less dependent on Mark, has still included about 50% of Mark’s content in his narrative. Both of these later gospels also adopt Mark’s outline, which was the telling of the Jesus story against the background of a one-year cycle of synagogue liturgical observances. That is why each of these gospels presents Jesus’ public ministry as a one year phenomenon — not because that ministry was one year long, but because the story of his public life, from his baptism to his crucifixion, was told against the background of a one year synagogue cycle. Unfortunately, this background material is not seen unless and until a reader is knowledgeable about that liturgical pattern. Let me try to lift it to the awareness of my readers.
The climax of Mark is the story of the passion and crucifixion of Jesus. In Mark, almost 40% of his gospel deals with the last week in the life of Jesus. Of Mark’s 16 chapters, chapters one to ten are dedicated to the life of Jesus from his baptism up to his entry into Jerusalem on Palm Sunday, five days prior to Good Friday and just seven days prior to the story of the resurrection. That last week becomes the context of chapters 11-16. To draw the contrast even more sharply, the story of the last twenty-four hours of Jesus’ earthly life consumes 105 verses of Mark’s text, while the Easter story is relegated to only eight verses.
The first and most obvious fact is that the crucifixion of Jesus is told against the background of the Jewish observance of the Passover celebration. Jesus had been identified as the new paschal lamb by Paul when he wrote some fifteen years before Mark that “Christ, our paschal lamb, has been sacrificed for us (I Cor. 5:7).” People have assumed for centuries that the crucifixion had occurred during the Passover season when the fact was that it was more probable that the Passover had been used by the followers of Jesus to interpret the death of Jesus and that this is what pulled the two observances together. There is a body of data in the gospels that suggests that the crucifixion occurred not in the spring, but rather in the fall of the year. (That data is beyond the scope of this column, but for those who might be interested I outlined it in my book: Liberating the Gospels: Reading the Bible with Jewish Eyes) The death of the paschal lamb was believed by the Jews to have broken the power of death at the time of the Exodus. The death of Jesus was believed by his disciples to have broken the power of death at the time of his cross and resurrection. So, the story of the death of Jesus was purposefully designed to be observed during the Passover season. That was not history so much as it was liturgy.
Once we connect the Passover with the crucifixion, it is possible to see that, in the whole gospel of Mark, the story of Jesus is being retold against the events of the Jewish holy days. So place the crucifixion of Jesus at the time of the Passover and then roll Mark’s gospel backward across the synagogue’s liturgical year and it becomes obvious that this is how Mark organized his gospel. The Jewish celebration, about three months prior to Passover, is called Dedication or Hanukkah. This holy day recalls the time when the light of God was restored to the Temple during the period of the Maccabees. The story in Mark’s gospel that occurs at exactly that time is the story of Jesus’ Transfiguration in which the light of God falls not on the Temple as the Jews asserted, but on Jesus first and then Moses and Elijah, transfiguring them all. This story further suggests that Moses, a symbol for the Law, and Elijah, a symbol for the prophets, are subsumed into the meaning of Jesus, who is then interpreted as the new Temple. Presumably, the old Temple, which had been destroyed by the Romans in 70 CE, was no more and the disciples of Jesus were interpreting him as the new meeting place between God and human life.
If one keeps rolling Mark backward, the next Jewish feast is Sukkoth or Tabernacles which was the eight-day celebration of the harvest. The Jesus story which Mark relates in chapter four comes exactly at that place where Sukkoth is being observed. It is the parable of the sower, who sowed the seed on four different kinds of soil, yielding four different types of harvest, and is then followed by Jesus’ explanation of that parable. Indeed, this chapter with its clear harvest theme contains sufficient material to cover the eight days of the harvest festival.
Keep rolling Mark backward and one comes next to Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement, observed some five days before Sukkoth begins. Here one discovers in Mark’s chapters two and three a series of healing, cleansing stories, including the call of Levi into discipleship from the unclean world of being a tax collector for the Gentile conqueror. These are perfect Jesus stories to carry the meaning of Yom Kippur. Once again, Mark’s order fits the synagogue’s liturgical year. Finally, Mark runs out with chapter one that occurs at the time when the Jews were celebrating Rosh Hashanah, the Jewish New Year. The Jews observed that day by blowing the shofar, gathering the people, announcing that the Kingdom of God was at hand and urging them to prepare for it by repenting. Here, Mark’s gospel opens with the story of John the Baptist, portrayed as the human shofar, gathering the people, announcing to them that the Kingdom of God is dawning in the life of Jesus and urging them to prepare for his coming with repentance.
The unrecognized organizing principle in the first gospel to be written reveals that Mark has crafted Jesus stories for use in the synagogue from Rosh Hashanah to Passover, or for six and a half months of the Jewish liturgical year. Have you ever wondered why Mark is shorter than Matthew or Luke? Mark only covered six and a half months of the calendar year. Both Matthew and Luke would stretch Mark by providing stories for the other five and a half months. First, grasp the concept. Then we will fill in the details.
~ John Shelby Spong
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