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Re: [Dialogue] Thank you, Dawn!
by Dawn Collins via Dialogue 04 Jul '17

04 Jul '17

P'shaw! The Meditative Council is still speaking! It ain't just me; it's an OE thing! Thanks all y'all for the inspiration! Let's not let our heads get too big for blue halos in Heaven in the Here and Now... May a Just Peace Reign Anew, Dawn We love the Source because the Source loved us first.-1 John 4:19 On Sunday, July 2, 2017 3:25 AM, John C <jpc2025(a)outlook.com> wrote: Dawn, you are a holy piece of work, “in Joy, Peace and Hope,” always bubbling over withspirit, it seems. We give thanks for your being here, with beingitself in mystery. Thank you for daring to share your depth of reflection with your colleagues on the profound journey called life. Grace and Peace is yours fromspirit at the very heart of you! John (and Lynda) From: OE <oe-bounces(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> on behalf of Dawn Collins via OE <oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> Reply-To: Dawn Collins <collinsdawn747(a)yahoo.com>, Order Ecumenical Community <oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> Date: Sunday, July 2, 2017 at 1:18 AM To: Nancy Lanphear <nancy(a)songaia.com>, Stuart Hampton <stuhampton(a)att.net>, Order Ecumenical Community <oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> Cc: Order Ecumenical Community <oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Lunch today Re: Lunch Today and Impromptu Singing Did my solitary 'sing along' at the end of a long evening on my laptop just last week. Used a church hymnal and two volumes of Then Sings My Song with bios of hymnist opposite the hymns page. When the spirit occasions these sessions, I usually say to myself, I'm going to sing one or two and go to bed. But I don't stop there. Would you believe four or five? With some of you having similar experiences would you believe the Spirit is at work amongst us? Am attending a House Church worship service every other Sunday this summer. And will raise the question of singing on my next visit and still view an online livestream service from Alaska each week. Just as an aside and related to Journey to the East--I believe our community lost it's way when we changed Discontinuity night from Monday to Wednesday in the early 80's and stopped singing and doing Daily Office. That was a time of loss and a bit of our drifting away from our spiritual tools and discipline for me. Still I believe, in retrospect, we were destined to 'find ourselves as a 'beloved community' in a most quiet and miraculous way. TBTG! In Joy, Peace and Hope, Dawn -We love the Source because the Source loved us first. - 1 John 4:19 On Friday, June 30, 2017 8:34 AM, Nancy Lanphear via OE <oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: WARNING! May start singing for no reason! I would love a bumper sticker with thse words. I sing most of the day! I'll send my story after shopping for our 5 community meals next week! I do have stories to tell! One quick one - Patricia Newkirk and I compiled a new section for our older Songaia songbook.. Of course the old one had New Community Bound, Rainbow Trails, an a few others from our order days,. The new section now has BELIEVE! My neighbor Marilyn said, "why have you bee hiding this one for so long?" With my memory blips, I may have already told this story, sorry! Later then, Nancy On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 7:16 AM, Stuart Hampton <stuhampton(a)att.net> wrote: Old song -- here you go..How Can I Keep from Singing? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ How_Can_I_Keep_from_Singing%3F | | | How Can I Keep from Singing? | | | On Friday, June 30, 2017 9:12 AM, Rod Rippel <rodrippel(a)cox.net> wrote: Thanks for “This Old Song!.” In what hymnal did you find it? Song just breaks out! From:Nancy Lanphear via OE Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 7:02 AM To:Stuart Hampton ; Order Ecumenical Community Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Lunch today Last week we gathered On Jun 30, 2017, at 6:24 AM, Stuart Hampton via OE <oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: My wife bought me a bunch of these bumper stickers for Christmas. "Warning: May start singing for no reason" This old song says it all in just the first two verses. "How Can I Keep From Singing?" My life goes on in endless song Above earth's lamentations, I hear the real, though far-off hymn That hails a new creation. Through all the tumult and the strife I hear it's music ringing, It sounds an echo in my soul. How can I keep from singing? On Friday, June 30, 2017 7:30 AM, James Wiegel via OE <oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: Judy and I had lunch today with Joe and Marilyn Crocker at their place in Wells, ME. Met the Crocker's dog, and sort of spontaneously burst into song . . . Goodby my Coney Island Baby, Praise God from Whom All Blessings Flow, I Don't Know Why, More, . . . Grand finale was the Poverty Song (Come Walk with Francis . . Had to dig out the words for that one. .). Any other strange outbursts happening lately?? <IMG_8766.JPG> Jim Wiegel 401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353 Tel. 011-623-936-8671 or 011- 623-363-3277 jfwiegel(a)yahoo.com www.partnersinparticipation. com This Is Just To Say BY WILLIAM CARLOS WILLIAMS I have eaten the plums that were in the icebox and which you were probably saving for breakfast Forgive me they were delicious so sweet and so cold ______________________________ _________________ OE mailing list OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/ listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net <IMG_8766.JPG> ______________________________ _________________ OE mailing list OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/ listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net ______________________________ _________________ OE mailing list OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/ listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE(a)lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net

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Re: [Dialogue] Info re word "Practics"
by via Dialogue 01 Jul '17

01 Jul '17

I have seen "practics" or "practic" used in other mainline denominations, certainly in United Methodist use. I don't think we invented it as oe or ica. Karen Bueno In a message dated 7/1/2017 1:50:44 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, dialogue(a)lists.wedgeblade.net writes: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/practic Seems like we got it from here and slightly changed its emphasis. On Jul 1, 2017, at 3:40 PM, Ellie Stock via Dialogue <_dialogue(a)lists.wedgeblade.net_ (mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net) > wrote: practics = _______________________________________________ Dialogue mailing list Dialogue(a)lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net

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Fwd: Richard Rohr Meditation: The Third Eye
by Karenbueno via Dialogue 01 Jul '17

01 Jul '17

Good article Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Thursday, June 29, 2017, Center for Action and Contemplation <Meditations(a)cac.org> wrote: No Images? Click here Richard Rohr's Daily Meditation Image credit: The Incredulity of Thomas (detail), painted by Michelangelo Merisi da Caravaggio between 1601 and 1602. Sanssouci Picture Gallery, Potsdam, Germany. Contemplation in Action: Week 1 The Third Eye Thursday, June 29, 2017 In the early medieval period, two Christian philosophers offered names for three different ways of seeing, and these names had a great influence on scholars and seekers in the Western tradition. Hugh of St. Victor (1078-1141) and Richard of St. Victor (1123-1173) wrote that humanity was given three different sets of eyes, each building on the previous one. The first eye was the eye of the flesh (thought or sight), the second was the eye of reason (meditation or reflection), and the third was the intuitive eye of true understanding (contemplation). [1] I describe this third eye as knowing something simply by being calmly present to it (no processing needed!). This image of “third eye” thinking, beyond our dualistic vision, is also found in most Eastern religions. We are onto something archetypal here, I think! The loss of the “third eye” is at the basis of much of the shortsightedness and religious crises of the Western world, about which even secular scholars like Albert Einstein and Iain McGilchrist have written. Lacking such wisdom, it is hard for churches, governments, and leaders to move beyond ego, the desire for control, and public posturing. Everything divides into dualistic oppositions like liberal vs. conservative, with vested interests pulling against one another. Truth is no longer possible at this level of conversation. Even theology becomes more a quest for power than a search for God and Mystery. One wonders how far spiritual and political leaders can genuinely lead us without some degree of contemplative seeing and action. It is hardly an exaggeration to say that “us-and-them” seeing, and the dualistic thinking that results, is the foundation of almost all discontent and violence in the world. [2] It allows heads of religion and state to avoid their own founders, their own national ideals, and their own better instincts. Lacking the contemplative gaze, such leaders will remain mere functionaries and technicians, or even dangers to society. We need all three sets of eyes in both a healthy culture and a healthy religion. Without them, we only deepen and perpetuate our problems. Gateway to Silence: Be still and still moving. References: [1] Hugh of St. Victor, De Sacramentis christianae fidei, 1.10.2; Richard of St. Victor, The Mystical Ark, 1:3-4. See Richard of St. Victor, trans. Grover A. Zinn (Paulist Press: 1979), 30, 155-158. [2] See David Berreby, Us and Them: The Science of Identity (University of Chicago Press: 2008). Adapted from Richard Rohr, The Naked Now: Learning to See as the Mystics See (The Crossroad Publishing Company: 2009), 28-29. Online Course Catalog It can be challenging to find spiritual companions on the contemplative-active way. CAC offers self-paced, online courses to connect seekers from around the world. Deepen your understanding of Father Richard Rohr’s teachings in conversation with others. Breathing Under Water: A Spiritual Study of the Twelve Steps August 30–October 25, 2017 Immortal Diamond: A Study in Search of the True Self September 13–November 22, 2017 Financial assistance is available! Register at cac.org/online-ed/course-catalog/. Daily Meditations: Rebuilding Christianity “From the Bottom Up” Drawing from his own Franciscan heritage and other wisdom traditions, Richard Rohr reframes neglected or misunderstood teachings to reveal the foundations of contemplative Christianity and the universe itself: God as loving relationship. Each week of meditations builds on previous topics, but you can join at any time! Watch a short introduction to the theme “From the Bottom Up” (8-minute video)—click here. If you’ve missed earlier messages, explore the online archive. Feel free to share meditations on social media: go to CAC’s Facebook page or Twitter feed and find today’s post. Or use the “Forward to a Friend” link at the top of this message to send via email. For frequently asked questions—such as what versions of the Bible Father Richard recommends or how to ensure you receive every meditation—please see our email FAQ. Did someone forward this message to you? 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Re: [Dialogue] Lunch today
by Del Morrill via Dialogue 01 Jul '17

01 Jul '17

I looked and looked, but how can it be? So I stood on my head, and YUP! It really was the same young people I once knew, looking pretty damn good with a few more wrinkles may than we had when in the Order. Del "Getting older is not a problem to be solved, it's a life to be lived." From: Dialogue [mailto:dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of James Wiegel via Dialogue Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 5:31 AM To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe(a)lists.wedgeblade.net>; Colleague Dialogue <dialogue(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> Subject: [Dialogue] Lunch today Judy and I had lunch today with Joe and Marilyn Crocker at their place in Wells, ME. Met the Crocker's dog, and sort of spontaneously burst into song . . . Goodby my Coney Island Baby, Praise God from Whom All Blessings Flow, I Don't Know Why, More, . . . Grand finale was the Poverty Song (Come Walk with Francis . . Had to dig out the words for that one. .). Any other strange outbursts happening lately?? Jim Wiegel <x-apple-data-detectors://0> 401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353 Tel. <tel:011-623-936-8671> 011-623-936-8671 or <tel:011-623-363-3277> 011-623-363-3277 <mailto:marilyn.oyler@gmail.com> jfwiegel(a)yahoo.com <http://www.partnersinparticipation.com/> www.partnersinparticipation.com This Is Just To Say BY WILLIAM CARLOS WILLIAMS I have eaten the plums that were in the icebox and which you were probably saving for breakfast Forgive me they were delicious so sweet and so cold

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