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Join us for Sept. 21st Pre-ICA Nepal Conference Virtual Jam
by Wanda Holcombe 17 Sep '12

17 Sep '12

Dear Colleagues, I said "yes" to participating in the leadership of the Peace Building and Governance Theme Group for the ICA Nepal Human Development Conference in Nepal in October because of the "Virtual" portion of the conference "Before", "During" and "Afterwards" as a creative way to conference globally. So come explore with us at the time that relates to where you are in the world on Sept. 21st in our second Virtual Jam on Peace with Christopher & Sheila Cook as they explore it's meaning through the perspective of Spiral Dynamics. Also share this with your colleagues and networks that might be interested in peace building. I have attached two files for your use and for sharing with others. Note: Sept. 21st is also the last of 10 days of celebrating The International Day of Peace! wanda You are invited to a Pre-ICA Nepal Conference Virtual Jam Session: September 21, 2012 Sponsored by: The Peace Building and Governance Theme Group This is the first Virtual Jam Session with Christopher and Sheila Cooke. The Second Virtual Jam Session will be held during the ICA Nepal Conference in Katmandu, on October 31. Facilitated by: Christopher and Sheila Cooke Produced by: Ester Mae Cox, Jean Watts and Catherine Tornbom Start Time (90 minutes): 6:00 AM Pacific USA 7:00 AM Mountain USA 8:00 AM Central USA 9:00 AM Eastern USA 2:00 PM London 6:45 PM Kathmandu 10:00 PM Tokyo Login Instructions -- Adobe Connect Insert this URL into your browser: http://top.adobeconnect.com/peace/ Choose "GUEST" and type your name the way you would like it to appear in the meeting room. We recommend logging-in 15 minutes early. You will need a way to listen to the conference, such as built-in or external speakers, or a headset. Participation will be by typing, so it is recommended to have one computer per participant. To test your connection, run this test, and follow the diagnostics if your computer does not pass all four tests. http://connectpro78383270.adobeconnect.com/common/help/en/support/meeting_t… VIRTUAL JAM TOPIC: Peace? 70 years from now we won't use that word anymore! We are going to utilize the essence of Spiral Dynamics Integral (SDi) to offer insights that are immediately relevant, usable and inspiring to assist in the co-creation of inner and outer life conditions for a form of peace that is yet to be realized. Together we will explore the deep causes, polarities and paradoxes that, when considered through the lens of the spiral, invite a new awareness of a pathway beyond the peace-war dynamic imbedded in mass consciousness. We are offering this JAM on September 21st, International World Peace Day, as an event that we trust will contribute to bringing certain hope in an uncertain world. Whilst we will look at peace in general through the lenses of the SDi double-helix, this JAM allows you to explore your own in-depth understanding of past assumptions, beliefs and patterns that need to be transcended in order to bring about a new collective experience. At each stage of human existence the adult person is off on their quest of their holy grail, the way of life they seek by which to live. At the first level they are on a quest for automatic physiological satisfaction. At the second level they seek a safe mode of living, and this is followed, in turn, by a search for heroic status, for power and glory; by a search for ultimate peace; a search for material pleasure; a search for affectionate relations; a search for respect of self; and a search for peace in an incomprehensible world. And, when they find that they will not find that peace, they will be off on their ninth level quest… The quest they find is never-ending. -- Clare W. Graves (the originator of what today is known as Spiral Dynamics Integral) Also attaching information in two formats as well. Wanda

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If You Don't Like Capitalism or State Socialism, What Do You Want? by Gar Alperovitz
by Roger Alexander 16 Sep '12

16 Sep '12

I hope some of you system thinkers who participated in the research, development, and implementation of 5th City, the Human Development Projects and other ICA and International community building efforts will find this article of interest and value. I read through it once but don't think I grasp it very deeply yet even though I like to think of myself as a systems thinker. I'd be interested in your comments. Do his proposals agree with what we learned in the 60's and 70's and what you've learned since? http://neweconomicsinstitute.org/publications/lectures/alperovitz/gar/if-yo… Roger Alexander 5809 Meadowcrest Bartlesville, OK 74006 918-333-5299 ralexan934(a)sbcglobal.net "Never doubt that a small group of committed people can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." Margaret Mead

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Lindsey Buss career move
by Sarah Buss 16 Sep '12

16 Sep '12

Colleagues, Yet another reason to be proud of my son, Lindsey. I assume more information on this soon. I think he will be at Martha's Table through October. Sarah Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > From: Lindsey Buss <lbuss(a)marthastable.org> > Date: September 12, 2012 12:03:07 PM CDT > To: Sarah Buss <sbuss(a)austin.rr.com> > Subject: FW: A Fond Farewell to Lindsey Buss > > > > Lindsey F. Buss > President & CEO > Martha's Table, Inc. > 2114 14th Street, NW > Washington, DC 20009 > 202/328-6608 x210 > www.marthastable.org > This transmission and all accompanying documents are confidential. The information is intended for the exclusive use of the individual(s) that is/are the named addressee(s). If you are not a named addressee or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to a named addressee, you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this message or any part of it. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, discard any paper copies and delete all electronic files of this message. Thank You. > From: Cathy Sulzberger, Martha's Table [mailto:cathy.sulzberger@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 4:45 PM > To: lindseybuss(a)marthastable.org > Subject: A Fond Farewell to Lindsey Buss > > Having trouble viewing this email? Click here > > > > > > > > > > Martha's Table > September 10th, 2012 > It is with a mixture of gratitude and sadness that we announce Lindsey Buss's departure as President and CEO of Martha's Table, Inc. His extraordinary leadership skills and community work experience will have a broad impact at the World Bank, where he will run the philanthropic, volunteer and other community outreach initiatives. Although we will miss Lindsey terribly, we are incredibly proud of all that Martha's Table has achieved during his tenure, which leaves us well positioned to continue fulfilling our mission of transforming lives by engaging the community in developing sustainable solutions to poverty. > > As the Board of Directors conducts a search for Lindsey's permanent successor, Michael Bartscherer, Director of Food and Clothing Programs, will act as Interim President. During his years at Martha's Table, Michael has had an impressive record of success and increasing responsibility. Before coming to Martha's Table, Michael had a range of experience in management and community work, from Senior Vice President for Corporate Services at AOL, to soup kitchen and homeless shelter volunteer. Members of the Board and Senior Staff will also be assuming additional responsibilities to ensure a smooth transition and Martha's Table's continued success. We are grateful to them all for their service and skillful leadership. > > Under Lindsey's direction, Martha's Table has become widely recognized as one of Washington, DC's best run non-profit organizations with influence that reaches far beyond the city's boundaries. A look at some of our accomplishments says much about Martha's Table's organizational strength and Lindsey's effectiveness as a leader: > Enhanced program quality > Increased external relationships and influence > Developed infrastructure and staff > Increased funding and in-kind resources > Improved physical facility > Lindsey is quick to share the credit for all that has been accomplished at Martha's Table with staff and supporters. Martha's Table's key strengths include our hardworking staff, corps of dedicated volunteers and donors, and an engaged Board of Directors. This strong community, all committed to Martha's Table and the people we serve, will ensure our continued success. > > We cannot thank Lindsey enough for all he has given to Martha's Table, and we look forward to our work together to support Washington, DC's children, youth and families. We hope we can continue to count on your support and friendship during this time, and we thank you for all you do to help our community. > > Sincerely, > > Cathy Sulzberger > Chair, Martha's Table Board of Directors > > Forward this email > > > This email was sent to lindseybuss(a)marthastable.org by cathy.sulzberger(a)gmail.com | > Update Profile/Email Address | Instant removal with SafeUnsubscribe™ | Privacy Policy. > Martha's Table | 2114 - 14th St. NW | Washington | DC | 20009

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Re: [Dialogue] Streaming Chicago (ICA) Accelerate 77 (today): Link to Recepti...
by LAURELCG＠aol.com 16 Sep '12

16 Sep '12

The artist's wonderful presentation brought me to tears. So pleased to have my little strip of cloth in there somewhere, (from the gathering in Redlands at Hamiltons.) How great to be able to participate virtually today. Blessings, Jann McGuire In a message dated 9/15/2012 3:38:36 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, wanda60(a)earthlink.net writes: A GREAT ICA 50th Anniversary celebration and art piece. Austin was pleased to be part of the art piece as some of the 800+ pieces that went into making the piece from our celebration this past May. The artist did a great job of putting all together. Thanks for sharing so all of us can participate from wherever we are.... Thanks also to all those who celebrated ICA's 50th Anniversary across the nation and the globe this year, as well as all of those who individually were part of the past 50 years. We share a great legacy together and a hopeful future as well. Thanks to the staff at Kemper in holding forth in a very symbolic place for all of us and creating a vision of care for the future. Grace & Peace Wanda Holcombe in Austin, Texas On Sep 15, 2012, at 7:17 AM, Ellie Stock <elliestock(a)aol.com> wrote: > Hi folks-- > > Greetings from Chicago where today the Accelerate 77 event takes place at Truman College, a few blocks from 4750 N. Sheridan Greenrise Building (formerly known as the Kemper Bldg) > > The program begins with registration, informal visiting tables of local initiatives, 10am (Central time) introductory remarks, then connection workshops. This will be followed by a reception back at the Greenrise building on the first floor MLK room and Lumumba Room (4-6pm) > > You're invited to join in! > Here’s the link for the Ustream video. . > > http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/25387580 > > For more info, check out the website: www.accelerate77.net > Ellie Stock > elliestock(a)aol.com > _______________________________________________ > Dialogue mailing list > Dialogue(a)lists.wedgeblade.net > http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net _______________________________________________ Dialogue mailing list Dialogue(a)lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net

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Streaming Chicago (ICA) Accelerate 77 (today): Link to Reception Video
by Ellie Stock 15 Sep '12

15 Sep '12

Hi folks-- Greetings from Chicago where today the Accelerate 77 event takes place at Truman College, a few blocks from 4750 N. Sheridan Greenrise Building (formerly known as the Kemper Bldg) The program begins with registration, informal visiting tables of local initiatives, 10am (Central time) introductory remarks, then connection workshops. This will be followed by a reception back at the Greenrise building on the first floor MLK room and Lumumba Room (4-6pm) You're invited to join in! Here’s the link for the Ustream video. . http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/25387580 For more info, check out the website: www.accelerate77.net Ellie Stock elliestock(a)aol.com

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The Race is On: The Theological and Human Issues in the 2012 Election
by Ellie Stock 13 Sep '12

13 Sep '12

HOMEPAGE MY PROFILE ESSAY ARCHIVE MESSAGE BOARDS CALENDAR The Race is On: The Theological and Human Issues in the 2012 Election The nominating conventions for both parties are visible now only through the rearview window. The banners have been taken down, the balloons have fallen, the local bars are back to their normal patrons and the campaigns are now in full swing. The nominating conventions are actually a strange ritual, something of a dated hangover from our political past. They have not been nominating conventions since 1960 when during the role call Wyoming’s votes actually put the Democratic front runner, John F. Kennedy, over the top, defeating Lyndon B. Johnson who hoped that by stopping Kennedy, he might emerge as the winner of a brokered convention. The choice of the vice-president today is left up to the presidential nominee alone who taps the running mate. The last contested vice-presidential nomination came in 1956, again at the Democratic Convention, when presidential nominee Adlai E. Stevenson II, then the former governor of Illinois, threw the nomination of his running mate open to the convention without a recommendation. Senator Estes Kefauver won that spirited battle over two primary opponents, Senator John F. Kennedy of Massachusetts and Senator Al Gore Sr., of Tennessee. Today, these conventions nominate no one. The nominees have normally been picked long before and are not only known, but have also been actively campaigning. These gatherings have become little more than political theater or “infomercials” and are used primarily to launch the campaign. They are carefully crafted to recognize all the special interest groups that gather around each party, to showcase either those rising star candidates seeking national office (one thinks of Ted Cruz, Republican senatorial nominee in Texas and Elizabeth Warren, the Democratic senatorial nominee in Massachusetts) or to give a boost to a candidate deemed to be in a tight race. They also serve to introduce or re-introduce the nominees of each party and hopefully to frame the issues that will be at stake in the election. All of us are familiar with the hackneyed phrases that are endlessly repeated: “The next President of the United States,” “This is the most critical election in our lifetime” and “Mr. Chairman, the great state of Wisconsin where cheese is our state product, Green Bay is our football team and cheese heads are our fans, casts its 28 votes for the next, etc.” There is little objectivity in the speeches. Rather, in many voices, speakers say again and again words that sound like: “Our candidate will save America. Our opponent will ruin America.” Nonetheless, in these political gatherings there are occasionally inspiring moments that become indelible memories. I recall James Brady, still paralyzed from having been shot by the would-be assassin of the then president Ronald Reagan, appearing at a Democratic Convention to endorse a plank in the platform calling for the passage of the Brady Bill, limiting the use of legal firearms. I remember the tribute to Ronald Reagan at the Republican Convention after his death that brought back memories of his career allowing the nation to relive: “Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall.” I even remember the Republican galleries in 1940 chanting, “We want Willkie” and stampeding that convention until they got him as their nominee. In my life as a weekly columnist, I have attended these conventions in the past and watched them from gavel to gavel. In 2000 I saw the long kiss planted on his wife Tipper by Al Gore, Jr. It lasted 30 seconds! In 2004, I heard the keynote address delivered by the young state senator from Illinois named Barack Obama. It was a moving speech. I filed a column that week saying, “I have now seen a black politician who has the potential to be elected President of the United States.” I did not think it would happen four years later. Election year is an American ritual and despite terribly long campaigns and countless “robo” calls it is one that we treasure. I see the election of a president every four years as a time to read the cultural and political signs that tell me where my country is at that moment, what is happening to its values and dreams and where this nation appears to be headed. The placement on the ballot in Ohio in 2004, of a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriages, for example, probably brought out enough anti-homosexual voters to win that state and thus re-election to a second term for President George W. Bush. In 2012, the Democratic Convention endorsed gay marriage in its platform and in countless speeches. I don’t think either the anti-gay amendment in 2004 or the pro-gay marriage platform plank in 2012 would have been employed by either party had not the consensus developed that this was a winning strategy. That means that on the issue of homosexuality this country has shifted its majority opinion dramatically in just eight years. Overt gay-bashing politics has thus gone the way of overt racist politics. Homophobia and racism are both still present, but neither is any longer socially acceptable unless well disguised. Today only code words are allowed. In the two recent conventions it was clear that women are a crucial voting block that must be wooed. The rhetoric was far more positive than the platforms, however, which in the Republican case reflected issues not debated in America since the 1950’s. Both campaigns featured women. Both showed off their elected female senators, governors and representatives. Both listened to magnificent speeches made by the wives of the presidential nominees. I have a hard time imagining Pat Nixon or Bess Truman giving a speech! As I look at America today, it seems to me that we are in a dramatic period of consciousness raising. It began to be visible in the campaign four years ago when among the serious and viable candidates for the presidency were a woman, an Hispanic, an African-American, a Mormon and a man who had been married three times. None of these would, in all probability, have been taken seriously twenty-five years earlier. Consciousness breakthroughs always raise up a hostile reaction from those who feel displaced by the broadening of those who are considered acceptable for leadership. We are living with that reaction. The real issue to be measured in this year’s election is how rapidly we, as a people, will be able to embrace this new consciousness. One party says it focuses on individuality and freedom, the other on the quality of our corporate society and the corporate good. One party is rooted in the quality of leadership coming from traditional sources and it does not appear to be welcoming to newcomers. They value merit, ability and the kind of competitiveness that produces wealth. The other is rooted in a wider demographic pool, stressing openness to rising minorities. One party is conservative because it values and wants to conserve the virtues of the past, which, it argues, have made us the great nation we are. The other party is liberal because it believes that all people must have equality of opportunity that will allow a steady influx into leadership of those, who have not been born into wealth and privilege, enabling merit to rise to the top of our political, economic and social pyramids. I think both emphases are needed. Conservatives need the challenge of new ideas and new people lest they become quickly dated and irrelevant. Liberals on the other hand, need the witness of the traditional values that conservatives espouse lest they become wide-eyed and kill the goose that lays the golden egg. The nation is healthiest, I believe, when elections are close. The minority must be strong enough to challenge and to rein in the excesses of the majority. Progress should come through the hard task of compromise. We are in danger of losing that in today’s polarized politics. Someone once observed that “politicians are like underwear the only way you can keep them clean is to change them regularly.” In the last 52 years of American history, the Republicans have controlled the White House for 28 years, the Democrats for 24. That balance is part of what makes our nation great. I worry most in this election about realities that are real, but unspoken. America is changing demographically. We are no longer a nation that is overwhelmingly of European ancestry. The non-white population is today right at the tipping point of 50%. How well this nation incorporates its Asian citizens, its Latino citizens and its African citizens into its body politic will go a long way in determining the stability of our nation in the future. The fact that we have elected an Afro-American male to the White House was a signal accomplishment. The fact that his citizenship, his legitimacy and even his place of birth are regularly challenged indicates that racism is still alive, hiding below the surface in America. When a consciousness shift in our national self-identification occurs there is always anxiety, anger and sometimes violence. Today, minorities are rising, women are rising, gay and lesbian people are rising, but fear is also rising. Political gridlock, the inability to compromise, is a manifestation of this fear. When members of either party put political victory ahead of the well being of the nation, that is a danger sign. The yellow light flashing a warning sign in this year’s election is twofold. One is the result of the Supreme Court’s 5-4 decision in the case known as “Citizens United.” That decision opened the floodgates to individuals and corporations to give unlimited money to a campaign without having to disclose the donor names. The effect is to maximize the power of the vote of the wealthy and to minimize the power of the vote of the poor. One person, one vote is compromised. The second is the attempt by various methods to suppress, handicap or stop the elderly, the poor, the young and minorities from voting. Special ID is a modern poll tax. Its purpose is nothing less that to disenfranchise some voters. It is an expression of great fear. I hope this nation will move to correct both of these assaults on democracy itself. America is too precious an experiment to allow the integrity of a vote to be challenged. An election that ends not with a winner, but with a court challenge reveals a nation in trouble. ~John Shelby Spong Read the essay online here. Question & Answer Paul of Rockport, Maine, writes: Question: As much as I thoroughly appreciated Eternal Life and Jesus for the Non-Religious, I would welcome your thoughts regarding what has traditionally been called "contemplative prayer." I feel pretty squared away as to the prayers of petition and the question of flattering God in hopes of getting God to change the divine mind. But what about contemplation and the mystics? Is it auto-suggestion or a self-induced mystical experience? Even if self-induced, is it an authentic experience of the divine or an illusion? Answer: Dear Paul, If we could remove from prayer the idea of request or petition, then prayer would be defined as the awareness of a relationship with the ultimate reality, however that reality is defined. That awareness could take the form of contemplation or meditation, but it is still a relationship. Relationships can grow and deepen, but they can also fade and become shallow. Relationships require time, sensitivity and nurturing. That takes dedication, commitment and attentiveness. “Self-induced” does not appear to me to be the word I would use. Everything we do is self-induced. If you mean by “self induced” that it is not real but delusional, that is always a possibility and one should never rule out that possibility. That is not my approach, however. I simply bear witness that I live in a relationship with what I call the Source of Life. I practice that relationship by living life fully. I live in a relationship with the Source of Love. I practice that relationship by loving, loving wastefully. I live in a relationship with the Ground of Being. I practice that relationship by having the courage to be all that I can be. Contemplation is, therefore, not something that I do so much as it is something I am. Contemplation, defined this way, then makes sense to me. I never fall into the idolatry of pretending that I am defining God. I am trying to define only my human experience of God. I thus believe that I live in and into the reality of transcendence. I hope this helps. Thank you for your letter. ~John Shelby Spong Announcements Any questions or concerns, please contact us at support(a)johnshelbyspong.com or 503-236-3545. Copyright © 2012 ProgressiveChristianity.org, All rights reserved. You are receiving this email because you have a membership at our website. Our mailing address is: ProgressiveChristianity.org 4916 Pt Fosdick Dr, NW #148 Gig Harbor, WA 98335 Add us to your address book

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Re: [Dialogue] Happy Birthday, Doris Hahn
by coevolutionacademy＠juno.com 12 Sep '12

12 Sep '12

HAPPY, HAPPY BIRTHDAY DORIS! Love to you from Blase and I! ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "McCabe, Diann A" <dm14(a)txstate.edu> To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue(a)lists.wedgeblade.net> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] Happy Birthday, Doris Hahn Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:32:01 -0500 Please join me in wishing Doris Hahn a happy birthday today.Diann McCabe, San Marcos, TX ____________________________________________________________ 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/504fa09bf1ddf209b3621st04vuc

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Fwd: James Bell (His Happiness)
by facilitationfla＠aol.com 11 Sep '12

11 Sep '12

Forwared by Cynthia Vance -----Original Message----- From: Ackroeger <Ackroeger(a)aol.com> To: FacilitationFla <FacilitationFla(a)aol.com> Cc: JimBell <JimBell(a)XMission.com> Sent: Thu, Aug 30, 2012 8:56 am Subject: James Bell (His Happiness) Bob and Cynthia: I just received word from Jim Ed Bell that his dad, Jim Bell, died last night. He will be sending me information on arrangements, but in the meantime I know you keep up with the OE/ICA dialogue group and ask that you notify that list serv, please. Jim Ed said I could pass on his contact information. He and his family are on route to Texas. Thank you. James and Xiomara Bell 4605 South 600 East Murray UT 84107 801-685-6145 email: JimBell(a)XMission.com Amelia Kroeger 952-476-6126

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Re: [Dialogue] Song reflection on Chicago Accelerate 77: "Footprints of Sikaa...
by LAURELCG＠aol.com 11 Sep '12

11 Sep '12

Thank you, Ellen, for sharing your wonderful gift so freely. Blessings, Jann McGuire In a message dated 9/11/2012 7:24:54 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, elliestock(a)aol.com writes: Hi folks, Attached is the musical notation for a song reflection on Chicago Accelerate 77 (Saturday, September 15): "Footprints of Sikaakwa". Below are the lyrics. Ellie _elliestock(a)aol.com_ (mailto:elliestock@aol.com) FOOTPRINTS OF SIKAAKWA Footprints of Sikaakwa journeyed lakeshore sands, creatures spinning stories in winds haunting the land, swimming, creeping, crawling—they came; flying, walking, stalking—they gamed; hunters, warriors, growers—they remained, living lightly on the earth of Sikaakwa. Footprints of Sikaakwa turned rivers, changed terrain, paving trails and forging rails, farm ways to factory days— exploring, trading, supplanting—they came; building, inventing, investing—they gamed, artist, industrialist, politician—they remained, sculpting rising skyline peaks of Chicago. Footprints of Sikaakwa converged from all directions, cultures clashed and merged, stewing desire and introspection— laboratory of urban life—they came; microcosm of courage and strife—they gamed; movements calling for justice—they remained, stirring brewing cauldron hope of Chicago. Footprints of Sikaakwa blaze new community, people working together to thrive sustainably— welcoming young and old—they came; joining the gifts of all—they gamed; waking to Earth’s vision—they remained, living boldly a real dream of Chicago. ejhs 9/09/12 reflection on Accelerate 77, Chicago “Sikaakwa” (pronounced: “Sheekakwa”): namesake of Chicago; French pronunciation of Algonquian (Miami/Illinois) name for a wild garlic/leek (Allium Tricoccum) (striped skunk) growing along the shores of Lake Michigan and the Des Plaines (branch of Chicago River) in the 1600s. _______________________________________________ Dialogue mailing list Dialogue(a)lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net

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Re: [Dialogue] Happy Birthday, Doris Hahn
by PSchrijnen＠aol.com 11 Sep '12

11 Sep '12

Indeed, Happy Birthday Doris. and much love from Cologne on the Rhine, Paul In a message dated 11/09/2012 20:32:22 GMT Daylight Time, dm14(a)txstate.edu writes: Please join me in wishing Doris Hahn a happy birthday today. Diann McCabe, San Marcos, TX _______________________________________________ Dialogue mailing list Dialogue(a)lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net

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