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Interesting [to me] weekly Global Read
by steve har 17 Aug '12

17 Aug '12

FridayGlobalist Read from Singapore webpage and email subscription here: http://www.theglobalist.com/ Nothing is quite so bracing as an informed view of your own country from someone else's country. When I live in USofA Costa Rica is invisible When I live in Costa Rica I'm continually astonished what they know, see, love and pray for re my home country. Here's this weeks Globalist [from Singapore] content America, Enjoy the Downward Slide Michael Lind recently worried in The Globalist about the British seeds of America's decline. Meghnad Desai, an Indian-born economist and member of Britain's House of Lords, responds by calling on Americans to relax and enjoy shedding the burdens of its far-flung and expensive empire. The Danger of More Financial Concentration The financial industry has witnessed a wave of mergers and acquisitions in recent decades, leading to too-big-to-fail conglomerates. This trend has not improved the economic function of finance, writes Henry Kaufman. In fact, its reversal is one of the keys to creating a robust economic recovery. and... The India-Brazil Axis There has been plenty of talk in recent years about the parallels between India and China. In his book "Breakout Nations," Ruchir Sharma finds more compelling similarities to India in an emerging market half a world away. Can Central Bankers Cope With the Crisis? What sets the current financial crisis apart from past ones is not just the huge overhang of sovereign debt, but where it resides. Formerly confined mainly to the developing world, sovereign debt problems are now endemic throughout the West, writes Henry Kaufman. China's Development-First Approach to Africa Stephan Richter's op-ed appeared in the English-language edition of the China Daily, on August 14. A Portuguese version appeared in Brazil's Valor Econômico (PDF), on August 9. -- Steve

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8/6/12, Spong: The Pacific School of Religion and Theological Education for Tomorrow’s Christianity
by Ellie Stock 17 Aug '12

17 Aug '12

Homepage My Profile Essay Archive Message Boards Calendar The Pacific School of Religion and Theological Education for Tomorrow’s Christianity I spent a week recently teaching in the summer session of the Pacific School of Religion in Berkeley, California. It was a demanding schedule of four hours a day from 9:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. on each of the five days of that week. This opportunity forced me to think about the state of theological education in the United States and to wonder about its adequacy to meet the crises the Christian Church faces in the 21st century. In this column I share those thoughts. The Pacific School of Religion illustrates well the past and the future state of training of church leaders. This seminary is part of the consortium of theological schools that surround the University of California in Berkeley. Each of these schools began its life as a west coast seminary serving its particular denomination. Each one, therefore, built its own chapel, dormitory, refectory and library. The unconscious, and therefore largely unspoken, idea was to re-create the English, Scottish, German and European model in which theological education is part of a university setting and presumably, in dialogue with the expansion of knowledge that is the essence of university life. It was essentially a Protestant model that sees ministry in terms of engagement with the world, not a monastic process of withdrawal from the world. Over the half century between the end of World War II and the end of the second millennium, Protestant Christianity went through many changes. Much of its self-understanding, while not admitted, had been tribal in nature. Episcopalians tended to be the worshiping descendants of English immigrants, Presbyterians of Scottish immigrants and Lutherans of German and Scandinavian immigrants. Roman Catholics also are primarily descendants of the nations of Southern Europe and Ireland. As is the case with all sweeping generalizations, this conclusion has many exceptions to the rule, but it is, nonetheless, broadly accurate. When the generations went by and intermarriage occurred people began to forget their country of origin and its special worship patterns and Christianity in America became homogenized and at the same time began to splinter into many patterns, sometimes quite congregational and individualistic as new identity was sought. Methodism became very much the Anglican Church Americanized and was the primary religion of the frontier as it moved westward. The United Church of Christ claimed its Zwinglian roots and took on a more radical flavor. Baptist and Pentecostal groups proliferated and began to exhibit an anti-intellectual bias. The Unitarians on the other hand took up the intellectual challenge, feeling stifled by the creeds and doctrines of the traditional churches. Inevitably, as the years rolled by denominational (i.e. tribal) loyalty began to fade. Each Christian tradition had within it those who wanted to walk the frontiers of new understanding and those who wanted to defend the “unchanging past” with increasing determination. This meant that cross-denominational alliances began to form that linked the progressives together on one end and the traditionalists on the other. Among the denominational seminaries, the realization also began to dawn that biblical and theological scholarship was not the possession of a single tradition. There is no such thing as conservative or liberal scholarship; there is only competent or incompetent scholarship. There was, therefore, no real need to have separate libraries at each theological school in a specific geographical area or to replicate professors in the same academic disciplines in separate schools. The case was still made that specific things like liturgy, chapel worship, clergy ordination formation, canon law and denominational history might need to be handled individually by the separate schools, but other disciplines were common to them all. These were the forces that pushed denominational schools toward a consortium. The schools around the University of California in Berkeley were ideally suited by dint of their location to lead this change. The first step was to combine all of the denominational schools’ libraries into a single facility able to serve all the students, thus maximizing the books that were available and the services that a large library could offer. The next step was to allow the enrollment of all students in any class offered by any part of the consortium, thus maximizing the courses that would be available and stopping senseless replication of teaching resources. Each school kept its own requirements for the awarding of degrees, but full credit would be accorded for classes taken at any member school of the consortium. The denominational schools thus became participants in an entity called “The Graduate Theological Union,” where doctorates were offered and a summer school, open to all of each school’s graduates, was available. So more and more of the students at each theological center studied and formed friendships among and with those who would be clergy in all traditions. Denominational concerns began a slow, but inevitable retreat. In time, the Berkeley Graduate Theological Union, for a variety of reason, some more noble than others, gave up its responsibility for the summer school, but one of its constituent members, namely the Pacific School of Religion, agreed to pick it up and to continue to run a fully accredited program, but on an ecumenical basis. I have been on the faculty of this summer school under the aegis of both the Graduate Theological Union and the Pacific School of Religion on six different occasions. Each of these opportunities has been unique and worthwhile. My classes have ranged from about fifty students to over a hundred. Representing a wide sweep of traditions, between half and two-thirds of these students were ordained graduates of a particular theological seminary, who were returning in the summer for “continuing education.” Others in the class were those still in pursuit of their divinity degrees and theologically interested lay people. My students this summer included ordained clergy who were Congregationalists (UCC), Presbyterians, Methodists, Disciples of Christ, Episcopalians, Quakers, Unitarians, Baptists and Roman Catholics. Two rabbis also enrolled enriching us all. An unexpected serendipity of the development of theological consortiums has been that the member schools have begun to define themselves more sharply. In my own theological training, my seminary and most of the Episcopal centers for preparing clergy defined their vocation as “generalists,” preparing men and women for ministry in the broader definitions of Episcopal Church life. One seminary might emphasize pastoral ministry, another liturgics, another intellectual concerns and another social action ministry, but generally Episcopal seminary graduates could serve almost all of our churches. As “normal” church life began to fade, however, in both importance and in its appeal to the increasingly secular population, this “general” preparation began to have a limited value and the cry for bolder action was heard, but all too often ignored as a threat to denominational support. When a fire destroyed the chapel at one seminary, the immediate emphasis was to build a bigger and better chapel to continue the same kind of liturgical activity that people are today abandoning in droves. Strange mottos like “progressive orthodoxy” were adopted to suggest that no radical new thrust in clergy preparation was required. The Pacific School of Theology, affiliated with the United Church of Christ, the Methodists and the Disciples of Christ traditions, however, decided that rising indifference to traditional religious activity represented a new opportunity. Their vocation, they declared in both word and deed, was to engage the world in which they found themselves living. Scholarship, therefore, would not be compromised to protect the insecurities of the faithful. Biblical studies would be encouraged to come out of the academy and be introduced to the people in the pews. If the operative church definition of God could not stand against the onslaught of scientific knowledge they would let that old definition die rather than trying to respirate it artificially. They would no longer be interested in defending the creedal formulas of the 4th century that no educated person in our age can accept. They would no longer be interested in coddling those students who still wanted to diminish women, people of color or gay and lesbian people. This school thus began to define itself publicly, to announce to would-be students exactly who they were and what their students should expect. If this was not the kind of theological education that applying students wanted then they should look elsewhere. People listened and took notice. The Pacific School of Religion still trains pastors, but pastors who want to live in, speak to and engage the religious concerns of the future, not the religious concerns of the past. So at PSR experiments with new forms of ministry appeared and things tied to an older world disappeared. Will it work? Will people gravitate toward this attempt to discover a future for Christianity? Only time will tell, but one sign of success is already apparent. The Methodist Theological School at Drew University in New Jersey went in search of a new dean a year ago. They found him on the faculty of the Pacific School of Religion in Berkeley. His name is Jeffrey Kuan, a professor of Old Testament. If the Drew Theological School can build a bold training center for clergy on the east coast to match the excitement that the Pacific School of Religion has created on the west coast, perhaps a new kind of clergy will emerge – those committed to Christian ministry, but not afraid of knowledge; those willing to rethink traditional symbols; those even willing to offend the ones who have not progressed beyond their 4th grade Sunday School understanding of God for the sake of the future. If that occurs, something new in theological education and clergy training will begin to appear. PSR gives me hope. So does Drew Theological School. I salute them both with great expectations. ~John Shelby Spong Read the essay online here. Question & Answer Catherine Berry Stidsen, PhD, writes: Question: I wonder if you have ever thought abut producing a monthly homily for those of us weary to death of two hundred years of scripture scholarship being ignored in what we hear. Last week it was, “You are Peter...” and not one word about whether or not Jesus actually said it or even that the original building was to be of a polis. Some years ago I did this for some of my friends and posted them to me website at www.chartherineberrystidsen.org but I do not have your expertise or pastoral experience. I’m a Catholic laywoman, now widowed, who took seriously the documents of Vatican II and trained to the PhD level to be one of those laics who were to balance the clerical mind set in decisions in my church. Of course, I have no forum to do so. Anyway, just a thought from a weary traveler in Christian country. Answer: Dear Catherine, No, I haven’t though about producing a monthly homily. I write this column once a week and that is all I can manage. I also think a homily or a sermon is part of the life of a worshiping community and draws its strength and power from the common life of the worshipers. A sermon delivered by e-mail and read individually is not in my opinion an effective tool of communication. I certainly share with you a despair over much that passes as preaching. I will never forget listening to two dreadful sermons in a row from two different preachers during the Christmas season on the innkeeper from Luke’s gospel. One suggested that the innkeeper was sensitive to Mary’s need for privacy given her near term condition. The other said the innkeeper was like his mother for whom there was always room for one more around the dinner table. The thing of interest to me was that there is no innkeeper in Luke’s Christmas narrative or anywhere else in the Bible. That is a creation of pageant directors and myth makers. I see this column largely in terms of being an online class in Bible study. My hope is that as biblical scholarship is improved, it will carry preaching with it. Thanks for writing. I love listening to sermons as a worshiper in my parish church. We have a great rector and a great congregation. ~John Shelby Spong Announcements Any questions or concerns, please contact us at support(a)johnshelbyspong.com or 503-236-3545. Copyright © 2012 ProgressiveChristianity.org, All rights reserved. You are receiving this email because you have a membership at our website. 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Fw: NAACP message
by Janice Ulangca 16 Aug '12

16 Aug '12

Just watched this powerful speech that sure adds to my determination! It's history, it's hope, it's faith. I stood up and said "YES!!" Janice Ulangca The Reverend Dr. William Barber, II addresses the Plenary Session of the NAACP Convention in Houston, Texas on July 11, 2012. His speech here was the one that immediately followed Mitt Romney's speech to the NAACP. This link was sent by facilitators in NY/NJ area that work on offering the Awakening the Dreamer Symposium - some of them are also active with Transitions. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-y7PvBGYRE&feature=youtube_gdata_player --

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Moving Day
by Priscilla Wilson 15 Aug '12

15 Aug '12

This is a "change of address" announcement. Today I move to a wonderful apartment in Claridge Court…a retirement community My new address (not that anyone sends snail mail anymore) is 8101 Mission Road, Apartment 321, Prairie Village, KS 66208 My phone numbers stay the same as they have been. I may be several days without internet access which I will try not to care about. We lived two weeks in July without internet access while in Botswana and survived. Almost didn't even miss it. Priscilla Wilson Priscilla Wilson TeamTech Press 913-432-2107 Pris(a)TeamTechPress.com www.TeamTechPress.com

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Corporate Intelligence intrigue
by LAURELCG＠aol.com 15 Aug '12

15 Aug '12

_http://www.enlightennext.org/magazine/j25/collective.asp?page=1_ (http://www.enlightennext.org/magazine/j25/collective.asp?page=1) Dear Colleagues, Reading the above article is part of my homework in an online course I'm taking: "Living on the Edge of Evolution," with Craig Hamilton, the writer of the article. I think it's a phenomenal pull-together of group dynamic developments of the last couple of decades. Please look it over, read it if you have time, and let's have a dialogue based on it. Perhaps we can virtually recapture the phenomenon of collective wisdom that I believe we all experienced in the Order, when, to quote JWM, "the power [was] in the center of the table." What a moment to still be alive. Can we use our last measure of time to "finish our work" out on the point of the wedgeblade in the virtual world? Blessings, Jann

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Re: [Dialogue] Moving Day
by LAURELCG＠aol.com 15 Aug '12

15 Aug '12

Blessings on your new home, Priscilla. Jann ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Priscilla Wilson <_pris(a)teamtechpress.com_ (mailto:pris@teamtechpress.com) > To: Dialogue ica <_dialogue(a)wedgeblade.net_ (mailto:dialogue@wedgeblade.net) > Subject: [Dialogue] Moving Day Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 06:02:21 -0500 This is a "change of address" announcement. Today I move to a wonderful apartment in Claridge Court�a retirement community My new address (not that anyone sends snail mail anymore) is 8101 Mission Road, Apartment 321, Prairie Village, KS 66208 My phone numbers stay the same as they have been. I may be several days without internet access which I will try not to care about. We lived two weeks in July without internet access while in Botswana and survived. Almost didn't even miss it. Priscilla Wilson Priscilla Wilson TeamTech Press 913-432-2107 _Pris(a)TeamTechPress.com_ (mailto:Pris@TeamTechPress.com) www.TeamTechPress.com _______________________________________________ Dialogue mailing list Dialogue(a)lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net ____________________________________________________________ _Woman is 57 But Looks 27 Mom publishes simple facelift trick that angered doctors... _ (http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/502ba1fc581bb21fc624fst04vuc) _ConsumerLifestyles.org_ (http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/502ba1fc581bb21fc624fst04vuc) _______________________________________________ Dialogue mailing list Dialogue(a)lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net Priscilla Wilson TeamTech Press 913-432-2107 _Pris(a)TeamTechPress.com_ (mailto:Pris@TeamTechPress.com) _www.TeamTechPress.com_ (http://www.teamtechpress.com/) = _______________________________________________ Dialogue mailing list Dialogue(a)lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net

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Re: [Dialogue] Moving Day
by coevolutionacademy＠juno.com 15 Aug '12

15 Aug '12

Priscilla, I hope you enjoy your new home! Love and Peace, Rose Anne ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Priscilla Wilson <pris(a)teamtechpress.com> To: Dialogue ica <dialogue(a)wedgeblade.net> Subject: [Dialogue] Moving Day Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 06:02:21 -0500 This is a "change of address" announcement. Today I move to a wonderful apartment in Claridge Court�a retirement community My new address (not that anyone sends snail mail anymore) is 8101 Mission Road, Apartment 321, Prairie Village, KS 66208 My phone numbers stay the same as they have been. I may be several days without internet access which I will try not to care about. We lived two weeks in July without internet access while in Botswana and survived. Almost didn't even miss it. Priscilla Wilson Priscilla Wilson TeamTech Press 913-432-2107 Pris(a)TeamTechPress.com www.TeamTechPress.com _______________________________________________ Dialogue mailing list Dialogue(a)lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net ____________________________________________________________ Woman is 57 But Looks 27 Mom publishes simple facelift trick that angered doctors... http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/502ba1fc581bb21fc624fst04vuc

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Ten Books 2 Questions for the Fall Sojourn
by steve har 15 Aug '12

15 Aug '12

John, Interesting Book list of 10 -this list- Cost of Discipleship, Bonhoeffer ("Costly Grace") Shaking of the Foundations, Tillich ("You Are Accepted") Courage To Be, Tillich ("The Power of Being") Saviors of God, Kazantzakis ("The March" section) I and Thou, Buber (Part I into II) Befriending the Earth, T. Berry (little book--first real intro to TB) Grace and Grit, Wilber ("Who Am I?") Called To Be, memoir (whole thing) One Taste, Wilber ("A Spirituality that Transforms," Feb 11) The Great Work, T. Berry ("The Great Work") 2 Qs -Would you share a personal story from your top 10 list? -would you comment and/or share the story on draft spirit exercise for the Fall Sojourn? Q1 Share a Personal Story? Wondering if you would share a personal story of your experience of being addressed by the words of one of those writers/editors. At the recent Mpls 50th Celebration we studied Bending History Addie Batika and a small group studied JWM's ethics paper. He told a story of having a "Bonhoeffer Moment". Given the number of iPad video clips at the celebration, Addi's talks will be in a YouTube clip of the Mpls 50th Celebration. 2Q, Would you share your story and/or comment on a draft spirit construct for the Fall Sojourn beginning mid September? Story-making. In the 50/50 vision view of things this year, most of the 50 years past is 20th Century "dream time" stories now, most of the next 50 years isn't even the hope of a life-giving event yet. In this Blog and Facebook world, how to "find the future of our past" and share our Global Archive Assets online, probably in focused collections, new e-books and stories? [Your blog is interesting pioneering]! Karen Snyder said recently in the A77 Program [with a side glance toward the new Archive index of more than 16,000 real documents]: "Maybe stories are just data with a soul". Seems like "stories told to the ear and stories told to the page is what you are pioneering with your lively blog posts. In preparing for the Fall Sojourn, I found in one of those files an Odyssey construct procedure with some very simple very fine meditation exercises. I've been trying to adapt them for possible use at the Fall Sojourn to see if the Sojourn Prep Team might recommend them for the Fall Sojourn. There is a draft construct "in-the cloud" for comment and for testing story-making. The Odyssey meditation gave you 10 minute writing practice -the bell rang -you selected an image of an event or a memorable character -[example a favorite teacher, a poet, a wise one maybe a photo Joe Mathews testifying before Congress about 5th City, a poet like Dag Hammarskjold, a wise one like Brian Stnafield's new e-book] and -wrote a 1st draft short-short story within 10 minutes In the original Odyssey exercise, we didn't share our stories for some reason, they were considered to be "solitary offices". What if we wrote new ones and actually did share them like 1st draft postcards for the future? I'm guessing this might be behind what Randy Williams is thinking about with his Event vs. Story considerations. Here is the 2nd Question. There is a Fall Sojourn google doc cloud-document started that attempts to update this spirit practice. It is available online as a google doc cloud document with a private distribution list. Wishing you would comment and try writing a 10 minute story maybe from one of your top 10 book experiences? Send an email to fallsojourn(a)gmail.com, I'l send you the link for the draft spirit construct where you can comment or type in a story if you would please. Others welcome too. got a story? want to try out or comment on the construct? email fallsojourn(a)gmail.com subject line: story making -- Steve Harrington

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Re: [Dialogue] The death of Rev. Zan White
by David Walters 13 Aug '12

13 Aug '12

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Books that addressed me
by John Cock 13 Aug '12

13 Aug '12

10 books that most addressed me and still inspire and guide (pretty much in this order): Cost of Discipleship, Bonhoeffer ("Costly Grace") Shaking of the Foundations, Tillich ("You Are Accepted") Courage To Be, Tillich ("The Power of Being") Saviors of God, Kazantzakis ("The March" section) I and Thou, Buber (Part I into II) Befriending the Earth, T. Berry (little book--first real intro to TB) Grace and Grit, Wilber ("Who Am I?") Called To Be, memoir (whole thing) One Taste, Wilber ("A Spirituality that Transforms," Feb 11) The Great Work, T. Berry ("The Great Work") (and was addressed again by working on Bending History (I) and Brother Joe) Not exactly what you asked for, Herman, but I enjoyed the reflective time of pulling the books off the shelves and thumbing through my markings--profound journey. I give thanks for these saints and others, John John P. Cock >Daily "Journey Reflections" on ... Google: www.reJourney.blogspot.com Google Plus: https://plus.google.com/u/0/114307312715975337692/posts Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/transcribebooks Twitter: https://twitter.com/transcribebooks >Web Page: www.transcribebooks.com >Amazon Author (+books): http://tinyurl.com/n467ka

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