[Oe List ...] OE Digest, Vol 30, Issue 20

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Jaime was not prodigious, just the end of the month that saw me with more time than usual.  Anyway, the usual caveat: if curious, welcome; not, see you at the bend."



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Today's Topics:

   1. Jaime for Friday in ST, September 26 (via OE)
   2. Jaime for the 29th in ST (via OE)
   3. Gandhi anecdote (via OE)
   4. Jaime for ST September 24 (via OE)
   5. Fwd: GMCA 9/14 (David Zahrt via OE)
   6. Re: [Dialogue] Historical Records Team Collegium-Global
      Archives Research Assembly (Lynda Cock via OE)
   7. Anyone remember any of these Education Structure Events - or
      know some new ones? (steve har via OE)


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China's comeback kids


 
China faces a spirit issue. It's goals since 1978 when Deng Xiaoping left 
ideology for a guided freemarket economy, clearly accepting that some folks will 
get rich before others, hasbeen attained.  In just over 30 years, advancesin 
science and technology fueled industrialization, along with a judicious 
nursingof its military might, leaving China on top of the development heap while 
gropingfor its soul.  
 
Development in the global race is on to increase GDP percapita at a pace to fuel 
a consumption-production system at the expense of natureand people.  This purely 
economicdefinition is doing much harm to the world's natural systems and the 
ever-continuingcreation of a democratic rather than a consumer culture.  China's 
soul hit a vacuum groping for rolemodels.
 
Today, the comeback candidates are Christ, Mao, and theBuddha.   
 
The Chinese who sees comfort in the Christ has the undergroundhouse churches 
that attract devotion because they defy authority, anunderstandable reaction.  
Pastor poundedpulpits trained to wear evangelical enthusiasm up their sleeves 
are zealously tiedto the emotional allure of a cultic "savior" that takes away 
the "sinsof the world" through communal fellowship that gathers adherents 
warmheartedly.
 
The communal comfort in Christianity fits into the Confucianethos of family and 
the ethics that comes along.  Its metaphors and belief-nets remain in the 
regallanguage of a redeemer under a defunct three-story universe, a "belief"in a 
heaven in the sky, and a penal colony under; it appeals to the 
elderly'ssuperstition but the secular and scientific young, at best, say,"huh?"
 
Mao is a tolerated Uncle whose centralized dictates belongto, by his own 
measure, the 30 percent of his mistakes, but his dialectics alignswith the 70 
percent that was right.  It definedthe conflict then prevailing between elite 
and worker, urban and rural, learnedand the hoi polloi, though hardlyfits in the 
current harmonizing and collaborative thrust of the "reformand opening up" era.  

 
The contradiction metaphor got the Chinese mind around thereality of differing 
perspectives, and Mao would have been regarded an undisputedstatesman had he 
allowed his "a thousand flowers bloom" evolve into vive le difference rather 
than thedivisive and humiliating confrontational deterioration of the 
CulturalRevolution.
 
Ironically, Mao represents recognition of the virtue ofindividual genius before 
it is straight jacketed into the commune.  The assertive selfhood he exhibited 
is dubbedas a personality cult by the west, gobbled up by prejudiced contra 
Sino, butrevered from a distance as his name is invoked, though without 
bothering withthe details.  The halls of academia quicklydiscard the mention of 
his name. 
 
Which brings us to the Buddha.   If Jesus belongs to the Ptolemaic cosmologyof 
pre-Nikolaj Kopernik, and Mao brought down the elitist pretensions of the 
illuminati of academy into realisticlevels, ushered into Sino-consciousness 
Marx's dialectic and socialism withChinese characteristics, its contradiction 
understood from a deeply communalview and cooperative perspective before it is 
the social conflict to resolvelayered social stratification, the saffron Buddha 
saunters with a Mona Lisaenigmatic smile.  Buddhists skew Christiantheistic 
escapism and Mao's dichotomy between decadent and progressive forces,favors a 
psychology of a mind-full self.
 
Buddhists meditate not to escape from any situation, or thechallenges of any 
given location, but to engage in the depths of the bottomlessabyss of 
understanding one's consciousness. This lends itself to the Sino orientationof 
rootedness in space rather than the Euro-journey in time.  The Buddhists, 
however, tend to be abstract intheir mindfulness against the practical activism 
that is a demand of cognition.
 
Pope Francis willingness to dialogue with China's officiallysanctioned Christian 
Church might be at the root of the recent pronouncementthat Beijing will not shy 
away from creating its own Christianity with its own "Chinesecharacteristics", 
similar to its socialist economics and communal politicsof reform and opening 
up.
 
Kung Fu Tzu (Confucius) is not being dismissed.  His ethos will be around awhile 
but making a comebackkid out of Jesus, Mao Zedong, or the Buddha is a backward 
step as eachtradition inadequately encompasses China's broiling spiritual 
hunger.
 
Since 1968, we minded exploited and battered mother earth, cognizantof her 
gracious support of the human specie. We segued into a secular spirituality 
without the hocus-pocus of theismthough not a surrendered devotion to "all there 
is".  It was rather a decision to be free, to makechoices, and own up to one's 
decisions.  Wetook to the ancient art of mindfulness and plumbed the depths of 
engagement inhuman affairs, like the recent Peoples Climate Change March, 
allowing motherearth's wellbeing a fighting chance.
 
In the care of Mother Earth will China finds its soul.


j'aime la vie
pinoypanda2031 at aol.com

yesterday, appreciate; tomorrow, anticipate; today. participate. In all, 
celebrate!


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The power of Babel
 
At the neighborhood bar where I hang out on weekends to beavailable to those who 
wish to practice their englisCHe, I often ran into foreign students who come to 
improvetheir Chinese and imbibe on the "cocktail" ambience.  I engage them in 
conversation hoping toconvince them to reciprocate to their counterparts by 
enticing them to practicetheir English, too.
 
I met a couple of Jamaicans.  One grew up in Nigeria.  His father was from 
Cameroon. They were happyto meet someone who knew where the Blue Mountains were, 
and conversant of the differencebetween Yoruba and Hausa.
 
Last week, I recognized an Indo-Aryan from the Indus Valley,so I asked where he 
was from.  Sureenough, his Mom is Indian and his Dad, Pakistani.  "But I had 
only been to India once,never to Pakistan,' he claimed.  "Iwas born in Nigeria 
near Abuja and grew up in Zimbabwe's Harare," he added. I went beyond my 
hour-long normal stayin the bar conversing with the dude about South Asians 
scattered around the worldby the British Empire!  
 
All were the foreigners were multilingual.  John McWhorter wrote The Power of 
Babel on languages, which I have yet to read (a copy sitsin SF for me), but I do 
have a copy of David Crystal's Encyclopedia of Language, 3rd Edition.  I keep an 
eye on language as a cross-culturetool.
 
McWhorter claims there are more than 6,000 living languagesspoken across the 
planet, and Crystal lists 1,000 of them (of those spoken bymore than 100,000).  
I am not versedenough on the main thrust of linguistics to line up one side or 
the other onMIT Noam Chomsky?s notion that "we possess a neural mechanism 
calibratedto produce basic sentences" but the Fula language of Africa recognizes 
16genders and a tongue in Australia has only 3 verbs, so languages do not 
developout towards rational evolutionary lines. It is, nevertheless, comforting 
to know that 95 percent of the worldspeak one of the top-20 of the 6,000-some 
planetary gab.
 
Our concern is a bit more mundane.  Or, more poetic if we recall Juliet saying 
toRomeo from Shakespeare's pen: "What'sin a name? That which we call a rose by 
any other name wouldsmell as sweet."  That oft-quotedline is now contradicted by 
research that shows humans do have apreference on letters and phonemes, 
preferring that which is closest to theirname, or, as in the case of the Sino 
cultures, that which sounds like somethingdesirable like "happiness" and "long 
life. 
 
The Biblical tower of Babel (babel, Hebrew verb "to confuse") downsized 
humanity'sarrogance in building itself a stairway to heaven.  Providence saw it 
wise to confuse unilingualhumanity into a multi-linguistic cacophony. McWhorter 
turns the classic condemnation of Babel as a symbol of human pride into a 
celebration of humanity'slife force.  Worldwide language developedin many 
directions.  McWhorter usesCreoles as markers.  (Louisiana's creole,to me, 
subjugated French out of its flower-scented Frenchy-ness in its 
culturalimperialism over its colony!)  
 
France suggests that instead of calling ISIL the Islamic State of Iraq and the 
Levant, wecould use the Arabic al-Dawla al-Islamiyaal-Iraq al-Sham in its loose 
acronym, Daesh!   Acronymsare rare in the Arabic world with the exception of 
Palestine's Hamas (Harakat al-Muqawamah al-'iSlamiyya),but ?Da'esh is commonly 
used byanti-IS forces loyal to Syria's al-Assad to counter rebels and eliminate 
referenceto the words Islamic and State, inculcate defiance and 
disrespectthrough the negative undertones of Arabic words (daes, one who crushes 
something underfoot, or, dahes, one who sows discord).
 
We know what happens to dreaded names in the long run.  They get domesticated 
and appropriated so that"Niggah" on the Westside of Chicago is now an address of 
endearmentrather than the pejorative it was originally coined to be.  Da'esh Iam 
sure will find the same fate, in the same way as the f-word and sh*t are now 
tamed for home consumption.
 
Still, words cut deeper than bullets, and there might bewisdom in staying at the 
level of rhetorical confrontations rather than revvingup those tanks straight 
from Moscow to Crimea via Kiev, a practice Ukraine wasfamiliar with in the days 
of Khrushchev, now recklessly bandied about byVladimir when he feels folksy! 
 
It was a long way from the tower of Babylon to the power ofBabel and though we 
might have finally learned our lesson on the strength of powwow,it may have come 
too late.  We are nowtold that the isotopes out of Fukushima reactor 
deliberately made isodopes outof all of us.  The radioactivity is moretoxic than 
reported, dude, so be prepared to radically evolve! 
 
Mr. Obama was one out of three who voted against the IraqWar in the US Congress, 
but is now gung-ho to wipe out the IS not only in Iraqbut also in Syria without 
al-Assad's permission.  At least, that's true at the talk level.  So, let's just 
keep talking a bitlonger.   That way, the "power"of Babel does not get confused 
with the "powder".  Cute, neh?


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Mahatma Gandhi






















A lovely little anecdote, about one of life's more interesting characters.





 







 



When Mahatma Gandhi was studying law at the University College of London, a 
white professor, whose last name was Peters, disliked him intensely and always 
displayed prejudice and animosity towards him.



 



Also, because Gandhi never lowered his head when addressing him as he expected, 
there were always "arguments" and confrontations.



 



One day, Mr. Peters was having lunch at the dining room of the University, and 
Gandhi came along with his tray and sat next to the professor. The professor 
said, "Mr Gandhi, you do not understand. A pig and a bird do not sit together to 
eat."



 



Gandhi looked at him as a parent would a rude child and calmly replied, "You do 
not worry professor. I'll fly away," and he went and sat at another table.



 



Mr. Peters, reddened with rage, decided to take revenge on the next test paper, 
but Gandhi responded brilliantly to all questions.



 



Mr. Peters, unhappy and frustrated, asked him the following question. "Mr 
Gandhi, if you were walking down the street and found a package, and within was 
a bag of wisdom and another bag with a lot of money, which one would you take?"



 



Without hesitating, Gandhi responded, "The one with the money, of course."



 



Mr. Peters, smiling sarcastically said, "I, in your place, would have taken the 
wisdom."



 



Gandhi shrugged indifferently and responded, "Each one takes what he doesn't 
have."



 



Mr. Peters, by this time was fit to be tied. So great was his anger that he 
wrote on Gandhi's exam sheet the word "idiot" and gave it to Gandhi.



 



Gandhi took the exam sheet and sat down at his desk, trying very hard to remain 
calm while he contemplated his next move.



 



A few minutes later, Gandhi got up, went to the professor and said to him in a 
dignified but sarcastically polite tone, "Mr. Peters, you autographed the sheet, 
but you did not give me the grade."


























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Truth and Lying




 
My brother once referred to one of my columns on our motheras a "pack of lies".  
We werenot at the time in the best of terms so I dismissed his comments as 
expressinghidden hostilities until another brother essentially said the same 
thing. Conversantwith the wisdom of the Brad Blanton's RadicalHonesty that sees 
all humans trained to lie, or, the popular spiritedatheist Sam Harris' write-up 
on Lying,that came as a wake-up call on the level of knowledge I thought I was 
verycareful about in my writings.
 
I tried to understand the import of words I used.  "Lies" in my vocab results 
fromattempts to deceive but there I do use metaphors.  Perhaps, I just use too 
much of it!  Not a conscious liar nor deceiver, I am, however,clear that my 
brothers have seen something that I don't.  (Would be helpful if they go into 
details!)
 
An additional possible view is that my brothers do not see "truth"from what 
might be fuzzy facts of metaphors, analogies and similes.  In the spectrum of 
knowledge, I classify fourtypes of knowing (like all typology, this serves the 
mind more than clarity onknowledge): the indicative (fact), subjunctive 
(sentiment), cognitive(discursive), and imperative (deed).  Theadage "Truth is 
in the pudding" reflects the understanding that it isthe deed that is the done 
deal.
 
The worldwide network of the Institute of Cultural uses theO.R.I.D. formula in 
imaginal education. In their technology of participation, the letters stand 
for:O=objective, R=reflective, I=interpretive, and D=decisional.  
 
There is nothing esoteric about this scheme, followingstimuli that the brainstem 
receives as sense experience is registered, withemotional expressions processed 
in the middle brain, cognitive functions on theouter brain, and the whole 
cranium along with the heart, bile, kidney, stomach,liver and gut colloquially 
determining the course of action.
 
Science introduced quantifiable terms at the objectivelevel, measureable within 
a spectrum.  Collegesare organized according to disciplines to determine 
specific fields ofknowledge.  The widely used metaphor isthat of sight: tell me 
what you see, draw me a picture.  The sense experiences of touch (skin), 
sound(ear), smell (nose), and taste (mouth) are the other proper subjects 
ofscience.  Dominant biology and ecology aresensual, cuisine is a universally 
popular folk art, scents are on the firstfloor of department stores.
 
Internal responses are of two kinds: the emotional andintellectual.  They are 
not verifiablebut can be shared.  For sure, one can usesuch terms as real or 
authentic, but those are judgments of the onlooker.  "I know how you feel" is 
empathy,not accurate sense knowledge.  Psychologyis our science on interpersonal 
and human relations, with the other side of thecoin sociology, the development, 
structure, and functioning of society.
 
Symbol, picture, image, and emblem used in simile, allegory,idiom and parable 
express emotions. Intensity of passion measures the quality of response.  
Looking at how others respond, identifyingsimilarities and contrasts, likeness 
and dissonance, parallels andcontradictions and discussing the same with others 
in words, numbers andgestures, constitute the activity of comparing and arriving 
at social significanceand meaning. 
 
When EU used "sanctions as strategy" to pressureRussia, a means at a negotiating 
advantage, Russia came back to suggest that itwill take first strike a Russian 
option, including the nuclear one. I amhopeful the rhetoric stays at the level 
of verbal threat without proceeding tothe scary level of behavior. 
 
George II Bush sent troops to Iraq on the notion that preemptivemilitary offense 
is the best defense of national security post-911.  Obama sets his cross sights 
on the renegadeIslamic State and, not surprisingly, receives the same criticism 
he levelsagainst Russia of violating sovereign integrity sans consent of the 
sitting executive when he leers at Syria!
 
Ethics point to behavior where consensus is possible.  Two service providers for 
the autism communityhave one saying, "vaccines saved a lot of lives" and the 
other,"vaccines can cause inflammation of the brain."  I see them both as being 
defensiblytruthful.  Consensus is not in facts,psychological affirmations, and 
sociological verities, though sharing can leadto it.  It is in conduct that 
consensusis possible.  
 
The question is not whether we sense, feel, or think similarly;the issue is 
whether we are headed in the same direction, behave in tandem.  If a question 
asks for a "yes", or"no" answer, it is a question of what to do and how to act, 
ratherthan an agreement on feelings and meanings. My brothers and I might 
differ, and may not see similar truths from thesame metaphors but it does not 
mean anyone is lying!
 
I often want to scream at friends who empathetically say,"I understand", when 
they possibly couldn't, but folks do expressdifferent perspectives and views, 
and for that, I am grateful.   
 



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Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 17:13:09 -0700
From: David Zahrt via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
To: OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>, Dialogue ICA
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Subject: [Oe List ...] Fwd: GMCA 9/14
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*SUN SEP 14* *Good Shepherd Montessori School, South Bend to Unitarian
Universalist Church, Elkhart, IN*



I went to breakfast and had my yogurt and granola?I miss my own home-made,
sun-dried granola. One of the things the March has added to my diet is
almonds. There is almond milk at breakfast, and almond butter for lunch
sandwiches. Somewhere I remember hearing/reading that almonds are good for
you HDLs. I don?t know what my HDL is now but I remember the last test I
had showed it as 35: that?s marginal. I usually have 2 checkups a year. I
had one in February. I?ll have one when I get back to Carson.  Circle-up
was scheduled for 7:15am. It still hadn?t happened by 7:45am so I left on
my bike. I found the March route more complicated then necessary and took
Jefferson Blvd east until I reached Elkhart. Then I stopped and inquired at
a MacDonald's about the best route to the church.


The church was graciously hospitable. I arrived just after the morning
service had been completed. They offered me coffee or tea. A small group
gathered to go out for lunch. They invited me to go with them. I thanked
them and declined indicating I'd packed my lunch. In the afternoon the
pastor let us use her office and her computer. There were two places inside
where we were allowed to stay: the auditorium and the Kids House. I chose
the latter. A greet and welcome get-together was scheduled at 4pm. Kat
conducted the conversation. There were probably as many local residents as
there were Marchers. She had a series of questions and circled around the
group encouraging everyone to answer the questions. The closing question
was ?What can you do to help turn the Climate Crisis around??.  There were
a lot of interesting answers.  At 6pm a potluck dinner was served in the
kitchen. Most of the dishes were brought in by the local residents. At 8pm
we called it an evening.
-- 
Peace, David
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Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 21:26:22 -0400
From: Lynda Cock via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
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Yeah for the Historical Records Team!  Delightful basement video starring
Beret and Paul in the depths of the Green Rise Building at 4750 N. Sheridan
where the great storehouse of files of  our work with ICA reside, and Part
II, Beret?s intro to the work of Historical Records Team this week.  If you
haven?t seen these, go to https://www.youtube.com/user/icaresearchaccess.

Blessings on the memory of those who gave so much of their time in beginning
this work.  I think of Betty Pesek, Audrey Ayres, Lyn Mathews Edwards, David
McClesky, who spent much time as the Archive Angels and the Golden Pathways
project a number of years ago.
I?m sure there were lots of others.  Who were other names that need to be
celebrated as this work continues?

Thank you to all gathered in Chicago for pioneering and sharing in this
virtual research assembly.    Lynda Cock, Greensboro, NC

From:  Beret Griffith via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
Reply-To:  Beret Griffith <beretgriffith at gmail.com>
Date:  Sunday, September 21, 2014 at 10:02 PM
To:  "O:E List" <OE at wedgeblade.net>, Dialogue List
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Cc:  Gordon Harper <gharper at gmail.com>, Frank Knutson
<frankknutson2 at gmail.com>, Sally Fenton <fentonaj40 at gmail.com>, Steve
Harrington <stevehar11201 at gmail.com>, Beret Griffith
<beretgriffith at gmail.com>, Christina Wolf <christinawolf68 at gmail.com>,
Rosemary Albright <ralbright.6400 at gmail.com>, Wendell Refior
<wendellrefior at gmail.com>, Marge Philbrook <margephilbrook at gmail.com>, James
Wiegel <jfwiegel at gmail.com>, Fara Taylor <wb2m2t at gmail.com>
Subject:  [Dialogue] Historical Records Team Collegium

The Historical Records Team has two exciting announcements to make tomorrow
morning at the Historical Records Team Collegium, Monday, September 22,
2014.

Tune in for a peek into life at the ICA Global Archives, ICA GreenRise,
Chicago, Illinois, USA.. Find out how you can access the ICA Global Archives
holdings and documents currently on-line. We will be providing links that
were only dreamed possible when work in the archives began many years ago.

You will be among the first people to experience this transparency, which we
hope will give you the confidence and courage to dive into your personal
documents, artifacts, slides, photographs, old audio tapes, films, decor,
graphics to decide what is worth preserving for the Future of the Archives.

We are prepared to provide support to individuals and ICA offices around the
world needing assistance.

Beret Griffith for the current Historical Records Team
Marge Philbrook, Jean Long, Frank Knutson, Christina Wolf and Wendell Refior
of the Tech Team for providing technical support

Please contact me at beretgriffith at gmail.com to let us know if you are
interested in working with the Global Archives Team


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Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 12:09:05 -0500
From: steve har via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
To: "oe at lists.wedgeblade.net" <OE at lists.wedgeblade.net>, 	Order
	Ecumenical ICA-USA <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
Subject: [Oe List ...] Anyone remember any of these Education
	Structure Events - or know some new ones?
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Several people in the Imaginal Education Working Group are asking about
Educational Structures ICA has had contact with in the past

We did a "Find" in the GAP online database and found this data
Did you work with any of these educational institutions?
Are there any you've worked with that are not on the list?

Here is the list displayed in a google spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MIDSOx8sSM53G8zoQr90UP-DZdCwN7icnOytSZQW-L0/edit?usp=sharing

Can you help us "crowd source" the list and create more complete
information?

Thanks!

-- 
Steve, a communicator for the Imaginal Education Research Working Group
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