Of course I have to add something to this!Somewhere JWM pointed out that part of what he called 'essential dubiety' is "being onto yourself."It's knowing that finally, you know you're a fake.Even after getting your PhD or whatever. And giving up forever your innocent entitlement to think so highly of your false sense of 'integrity.'Like "111 fights and never took a dive!"So that you can finally surrender to God "the deed that has become necessary, and is nevertheless . . . free . . ." And see that even Jesus, who was his disciples' Lord and Master, was, at some level, a fake.The disciples knew it, because they knew Mister High and Mighty had to take a shit every day just like everybody else.And Jesus knew he was a fake Messiah, even as he rode into Jerusalem on a donkey and was mocked as 'King of the Jews.'Giving up his moral integrity as a pacifist was necessary for Bonhoeffer to be radically free to participate in the plot to assassinate Hitler. And to accept his own death as the consequence.Finally deciding to play 'the Role' that you know you're essentially unqualified for allows you, nevertheless, to participate in bending history.So who cares that Martin Luther King, Jr. and Jack Kennedy and Bill Clinton screwed around (literally)?Or that Joe and Lyn Mathews were alcoholics?Marshall On Wednesday, June 2, 2021, 09:19:24 AM PDT, Terry Bergdall <bergdall2@gmail.com> wrote: Wow, Marshall. Knowing that “essential dubiety” can be found on google has occasioned for me another visit to the Other World. Terry On Jun 2, 2021, at 10:48, W. J. via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: Who knew that Google would have an answer to every question! Essential dubiety DESCRIPTION: This is an awareness of the possibility that one may be the victim of the great cosmic charade - life is a joke. One is thrown into self-doubt even in moments of great victory: it simply cannot be true. In the book "The Magus" something like this happens when the main character realizes he is not the main character; or it is like discovering at the age of 25 that one is an adopted child, or a young child realizing that his parents have betrayed him. There is a haunting possibility that one's life may be the most painful tragic/comedy ever created. A dimension of this experience is a sense of awe, that is fear and fascination. The fear is that nothing is legitimate about one's self. One is the jackass of history and somehow missing some clue as to what is really going on. The fascination is that although existence itself seems to be laughing at one and one does not know why, one finds one's self joining in the joke. The decision is to not die of shame; to stand before what is happening and not try to escape. After this it is no longer possible to believe that things are going to get better and better. There is a strange sense of selfhood as one knows there is nothing to lean on for support. CONTEXT: This state is number 13 in the ICA [Other World in the midst of this World].<BROADER: Infinite passion from Essential dubiety | Human Development | The Encyclopedia of World Problems Infinite passion DESCRIPTION: This is an experiential trek in the [Land of Mystery], within the ICA [Other World in the midst of this World], when the individual is aware of adoring being. The states are described in separate entries. BROADER: Land of mystery NARROWER: Essential dubiety Cryptic disclosure Singular adoration Transcendent immanence RELATED: Aweful encounter Inescapable power Transformed state Marshall Links in the message (1) | | Essential dubiety | Human Development |... | _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net