I actually saw and touched (!) the typescript copy Marge had in the Archives at the time of Betty Pesek's memorial service, so I can vouch for the fact that there were zero burn marks on it. And no hint of smoke.As far as I could tell, that copy was not fake either. Maybe we could dust it for Joe's fingerprints. Or, far more likely, Lyn's. And there was no indication that what we have now was just a preliminary draft.As some of us know, there WAS a fire in the Carriage House at the original location of the Evanston Institute of Ecumenical Studies. And some stuff in storage got burned. Apparently not this copy.But maybe the story about being lost in a fire dates back to Joe's Austin days. Or before that in Dallas or Rochester. I wouldn't put it past him to wink and say, in effect, 'That's dead history.'Or possibly Joe and Lyn decided NOT to submit this revised/final draft after his dissertation committee rejected his earlier version. That's SO like him to say, 'I'm not gonna jump through that hoop again!' and risk another rejection. He WAS stubborn that way. And very proud of his research and writing and masterful teaching.So I would say, 'Good on ya, Joe. Got more important fish to fry!'I'm curious about what inspired the Archives team to 'resurrect' it in digital form.Comments?Marshall On Monday, May 13, 2019, 8:51:56 PM EDT, Mari Crocker via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: Do we have any insight re: HRN’s rejection of JWM’s dissertation? Were there any notes from his dissertation committee? One prevailing story over many early years was that the text had been accidentally burned. Could you share how you accessed this copy? Many thanks, Dr. Marilyn R. Crocker On May 2, 2019, at 9:10 PM, Wendell Refior via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: Colleagues -We now have a digital copy of JWM's Dissertation on Wesley.A Study of John Wesley, turned in and rejected by Niebuhr and never rewritten or approved.Wendell Refiorfor the ICA Global Archives Chapter 1: The Human Constitutionhttps://wedgeblade.net/files/archives_assets/21219.pdf Chapter 2: The Life of Lovehttps://wedgeblade.net/files/archives_assets/21220.pdf Chapter 3: The Knowledge of Faithhttps://wedgeblade.net/files/archives_assets/21221.pdf Conclusion: Concluding Remarks https://wedgeblade.net/files/archives_assets/21222.pdf -- Thanks until later. "To believe what is true for you in your private heart is true for <everyone> -- that is genius." - Emerson in "Self-Reliance"Wendell_______________________________________________ Dialogue mailing list Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net _______________________________________________ Dialogue mailing list Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net