[Oe List ...] OE Digest, Vol 170, Issue 3
Elsa Bengel
elsabengel at gmail.com
Mon May 25 19:21:31 PDT 2026
Wow. Not much time Tim. One list is best. In these painful times, I hope we
can continue not only for life transitions but also for resistance, protest
and vision.
Elsa Bengel
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> 1. Re: [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing
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> 2. Re: [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing
> lists, input requested (Shelley Hahn)
> 3. Re: [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing
> lists, input requested (David Marshall)
> 4. Re: [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing
> lists, input requested (David Marshall)
> 5. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> requested (Timothy Wegner)
> 6. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> requested (Ken Fisher)
> 7. 1. End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested (Timothy
> Wegner) (Richard and Maria Maguire)
> 8. Re: 1. End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested
> (Timothy Wegner) (James Wiegel)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 17:35:24 -0400
> From: Shelley Hahn <shelley.l.hahn at gmail.com>
> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> Cc: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>, Order
> Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>
> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of
> mailing lists, input requested
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> I hate the idea of losing this dialogue altogether. It does seem like one
> email thread would be adequate. As a 2G member, my interest is actually
> more on the OE side than ICA, so while it's just semantics, I'd vote for a
> name that includes OE. Maybe OE/ICA Dialogue? I'm certainly not going to
> stomp off in huff if you choose to just use ICA. ?
>
> Thank you so much for all you have done and continue to do, Tim!
>
> Fond regards,
> Shelley Hahn
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2026, 5:29?PM Vincente S Scott via OE <
> oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>
> > Tim and Richard, thank you for letting us know about the vulnerability of
> > losing mailing lists. Frankly, I know so little about mailing lists that
> I
> > can offer no helpful response.
> >
> > *BUT I DO KNOW THIS: *contact with members of the Current-Once & Future
> > EI /OE/ICA is of tremendous value. Dialogue among our colleagues
> > contributes greatly to my physical and mental health. Maybe it also
> > contributes to the world's health. Written access is vital.
> >
> > *So, for the next weeks*, I will seek to correct my ignorance. Learn
> > about our mailing lists. Make an informed recommendation. Thank you for
> > your work. Vincente Scott
> >
> > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> > Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* Dialogue <dialogue-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net> on behalf of
> > Richard Alton via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> > *Sent:* Monday, 25 May 2026 16:52:55
> > *To:* Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> > *Cc:* Richard Alton <richard.alton at gmail.com>; Order Ecumenical
> Community
> > <OE at wedgeblade.net>
> > *Subject:* [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
> > input requested
> >
> > I would vote for one list with a new host. Dick
> >
> > On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:13?PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
> > dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >
> > Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
> just
> > informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21,
> > 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end
> on
> > that date.
> >
> > I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to
> > weigh in.
> >
> > 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
> > will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this
> > for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
> >
> > 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we
> > do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists
> > (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will
> > suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
> oe-dialogue,
> > or oe-ica?
> >
> > The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> > reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
> > the larger community.
> >
> > Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but
> I
> > had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate
> > input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to
> call
> > it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tim Wegner
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Dialogue mailing list
> > Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> > http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Richard H. T. Alton
> > ICA Global Fund
> > United Methodist Creation Care
> > Behold, all things are being made anew
> > T: 773.344.7172
> > richard.alton at gmail.com
> >
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> From: Shelley Hahn <shelley.l.hahn at gmail.com>
> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> Cc: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>, Order
> Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>
> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of
> mailing lists, input requested
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> I hate the idea of losing this dialogue altogether. It does seem like one
> email thread would be adequate. As a 2G member, my interest is actually
> more on the OE side than ICA, so while it's just semantics, I'd vote for a
> name that includes OE. Maybe OE/ICA Dialogue? I'm certainly not going to
> stomp off in huff if you choose to just use ICA. ?
>
> Thank you so much for all you have done and continue to do, Tim!
>
> Fond regards,
> Shelley Hahn
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2026, 5:29?PM Vincente S Scott via OE <
> oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>
> > Tim and Richard, thank you for letting us know about the vulnerability of
> > losing mailing lists. Frankly, I know so little about mailing lists that
> I
> > can offer no helpful response.
> >
> > *BUT I DO KNOW THIS: *contact with members of the Current-Once & Future
> > EI /OE/ICA is of tremendous value. Dialogue among our colleagues
> > contributes greatly to my physical and mental health. Maybe it also
> > contributes to the world's health. Written access is vital.
> >
> > *So, for the next weeks*, I will seek to correct my ignorance. Learn
> > about our mailing lists. Make an informed recommendation. Thank you for
> > your work. Vincente Scott
> >
> > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> > Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* Dialogue <dialogue-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net> on behalf of
> > Richard Alton via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> > *Sent:* Monday, 25 May 2026 16:52:55
> > *To:* Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> > *Cc:* Richard Alton <richard.alton at gmail.com>; Order Ecumenical
> Community
> > <OE at wedgeblade.net>
> > *Subject:* [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
> > input requested
> >
> > I would vote for one list with a new host. Dick
> >
> > On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:13?PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
> > dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >
> > Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
> just
> > informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21,
> > 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end
> on
> > that date.
> >
> > I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to
> > weigh in.
> >
> > 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
> > will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this
> > for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
> >
> > 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we
> > do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists
> > (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will
> > suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
> oe-dialogue,
> > or oe-ica?
> >
> > The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> > reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
> > the larger community.
> >
> > Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but
> I
> > had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate
> > input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to
> call
> > it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tim Wegner
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Dialogue mailing list
> > Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> > http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Richard H. T. Alton
> > ICA Global Fund
> > United Methodist Creation Care
> > Behold, all things are being made anew
> > T: 773.344.7172
> > richard.alton at gmail.com
> >
> > CAUTION: This email was sent from someone outside of the university. Do
> > not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and
> > know the content is safe.
> > s61A4ef3l74X5Sa77QJi
> > _______________________________________________
> > OE mailing list
> > OE at lists.wedgeblade.net
> > http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
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> From: David Marshall <davidpaulmarshall1956 at gmail.com>
> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> Cc: Shelley Hahn <shelley.l.hahn at gmail.com>, Colleague Dialogue
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> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> Cc: Shelley Hahn <shelley.l.hahn at gmail.com>, Colleague Dialogue
> <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>, Order Ecumenical Community
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> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 16:57:10 -0500
> From: Timothy Wegner <tim at tswegner.net>
> To: Mari Crocker <maricrocker at gmail.com>
> Cc: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>,
> "oe at wedgeblade.net" <OE at wedgeblade.net>
> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
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> Marilyn asked:
>
> Tim, would you be willing to spearhead that effort as you have in the
> > past? What would you need from the rest of us? Marilyn
>
>
> Yes I can spearhead starting a new list. The main help I need is what I am
> getting here: expression of the desire to continue and ideas for what to
> call the new list.
>
> I am looking at https://www.mailmanlists.net/ as the host. The cost would
> be $51.61 a year total, which I will happily pay. We can still use the
> wedgeblade.net domain, which I own. There are good suggestions here for
> the name of the list itself, after a few days I'll propose what looks like
> the consensus. Stay tuned!
>
> We have until July 21st, but since the new list will likely have a
> different name than either existing list, I can start it before the old
> lists expire. My plan is to move all the members from both lists into the
> new list. There are about 174 in each list, probably mostly the same
> people.
>
> Thanks for all the responses! Keep posting suggestions and questions.
>
> Tim
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> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 18:00:52 -0400
> From: Ken Fisher <kenfisher1942 at gmail.com>
> To: Dialogue Lists <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> Cc: Mari Crocker <maricrocker at gmail.com>, Timothy Wegner
> <tim at tswegner.net>, "oe at wedgeblade.net" <OE at wedgeblade.net>
> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
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> Yay, Tim !!!
> ? ever appreciative, Ken
>
> > On May 25, 2026, at 5:57?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >
> > Marilyn asked:
> >
> >> Tim, would you be willing to spearhead that effort as you have in the
> past? What would you need from the rest of us? Marilyn
> >
> > Yes I can spearhead starting a new list. The main help I need is what I
> am getting here: expression of the desire to continue and ideas for what to
> call the new list.
> >
> > I am looking at https://www.mailmanlists.net/ as the host. The cost
> would be $51.61 a year total, which I will happily pay. We can still use
> the wedgeblade.net <http://wedgeblade.net/> domain, which I own. There
> are good suggestions here for the name of the list itself, after a few days
> I'll propose what looks like the consensus. Stay tuned!
> >
> > We have until July 21st, but since the new list will likely have a
> different name than either existing list, I can start it before the old
> lists expire. My plan is to move all the members from both lists into the
> new list. There are about 174 in each list, probably mostly the same people.
> >
> > Thanks for all the responses! Keep posting suggestions and questions.
> >
> > Tim
> > _______________________________________________
> > Dialogue mailing list
> > Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> > http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
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> Date: Tue, 26 May 2026 08:05:04 +1000
> From: Richard and Maria Maguire <richardandmaria at unfoldingfutures.net>
> To: oe at lists.wedgeblade.net
> Subject: [Oe List ...] 1. End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> requested (Timothy Wegner)
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> HI Tim
>
> Thank you for your work over the years.? I would be in favor of one list
> continuing.? Dialog sounds fine for me as a name.
>
> On 26/05/2026 7:29 am, oe-request at lists.wedgeblade.net wrote:
> > Send OE mailing list submissions to
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> > Today's Topics:
> >
> > 1. End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested (Timothy Wegner)
> > 2. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> > requested (Karen Snyder)
> > 3. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> > requested (Ken Fisher)
> > 4. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> > requested (jstanfieldica)
> > 5. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> > requested (Diann McCabe)
> > 6. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> > requested (Diann McCabe)
> > 7. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> > requested (Richard Alton)
> > 8. Re: End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested
> > (zbarley at earthlink.net)
> > 9. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> > requested (Mari Crocker)
> > 10. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> > requested (Linda and Milan Hamilton)
> > 11. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> > requested (Linda and Milan Hamilton)
> > 12. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> > requested (Linda and Milan Hamilton)
> > 13. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> > requested (Sharon Fisher)
> > 14. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> > requested (Sharon Fisher)
> > 15. Re: [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing
> > lists, input requested (Vincente S Scott)
> > 16. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> > requested (Seth Longacre)
> >
> >
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> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:10:19 -0500
> > From: Timothy Wegner <tim at tswegner.net>
> > To: Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>, Dialogue List
> > <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> > Subject: [Oe List ...] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> > requested
> > Message-ID:
> > <CAFLr277dcwd_s1FF8R4B4HYPtz0weOvCx-pDn=
> 1jnE+WnRNcCQ at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
> just
> > informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21,
> > 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end
> on
> > that date.
> >
> > I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to
> > weigh in.
> >
> > 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
> will
> > cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for his
> > Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
> >
> > 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we
> > do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists
> > (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will
> > suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
> oe-dialogue,
> > or oe-ica?
> >
> > The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> reason
> > to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the
> > larger community.
> >
> > Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but
> I
> > had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate
> > input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to
> call
> > it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tim Wegner
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:15:32 -0500
> > From: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>
> > To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> > Cc: Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>, Timothy Wegner
> > <tim at tswegner.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
> > input requested
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> > I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?. Karen
> >
> >> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end
> on that date.
> >>
> >> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
> to weigh in.
> >>
> >> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
> will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for
> his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
> >>
> >> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If
> we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list
> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
> >>
> >> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
> the larger community.
> >>
> >> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and
> what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Tim Wegner
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Dialogue mailing list
> >> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 16:34:25 -0400
> > From: Ken Fisher <kenfisher1942 at gmail.com>
> > To: Dialogue Lists <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> > Cc: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical
> > Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
> > input requested
> > Message-ID: <71A9E46F-D79F-426E-B81D-ADD823D3F856 at gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> >
> >
> >> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?. Karen
> >
> > Agree. Ken
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end
> on that date.
> >>>
> >>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
> to weigh in.
> >>>
> >>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
> will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for
> his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
> >>>
> >>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If
> we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list
> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
> >>>
> >>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
> the larger community.
> >>>
> >>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and
> what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Tim Wegner
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Dialogue mailing list
> >>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Dialogue mailing list
> >> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 16:39:52 -0400
> > From: jstanfieldica <jstanfieldica at gmail.com>
> > To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> > Cc: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical
> > Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
> > input requested
> > Message-ID: <6a14b3a5.0cbb8811.227de.e49c at mx.google.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > I agree with Karen.? 1 listserve ICA Dialogue.Jeanette StanfieldSent
> from my Bell Samsung device over Canada's largest network.
> > -------- Original message --------From: Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> Date: 2026-05-25 4:17 p.m. (GMT-05:00)
> To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> Cc: Karen Snyder <
> karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>
> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested I
> would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.? Karen> On May 25, 2026, at
> 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> wrote:> > Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing
> lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists
> on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists
> will end on that date.> > I want to discuss some options, and I would very
> much like folks here to weigh in.> > 1. First option is to do nothing,
> which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21.? Terry
> Bergdal? has opted to do this for his Earthrise
> li
> > st. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.> > 2. The second
> option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I
> suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally
> OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the
> only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?>
> > The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
> the? larger community.> > Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I
> am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more
> years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past
> July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time? to end both the
> lists.> > Thanks,> > Tim Wegner> > >
> _______________________________________________> Dialogue mailing list>
> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedge
> bla
> > de.net_______________________________________________Dialogue mailing
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> > Message: 5
> > Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:41:35 -0500
> > From: Diann McCabe <diann.mccabe at gmail.com>
> > To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> > Cc: Dialogue Lists <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>, Ken Fisher
> > <kenfisher1942 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical Community
> > <OE at wedgeblade.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
> > input requested
> > Message-ID:
> > <
> CANyB-Yi9KgoMnzWabVnfugbVupL0UD37qN14KJcFJ8MD4fx6DQ at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Thank you--and I agree with Karen's suggestion.
> > Diann McCabe
> >
> > On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:36?PM Ken Fisher via OE <
> oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
> >> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >>> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?. Karen
> >>
> >> Agree. Ken
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
> >> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >>>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
> >> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on
> July
> >> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will
> end
> >> on that date.
> >>>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
> >> to weigh in.
> >>>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
> >> will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for
> >> his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
> >>>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If
> >> we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
> >> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list
> >> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
> >> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
> >>>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> >> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
> >> the larger community.
> >>>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
> >> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
> >> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and
> >> what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> Tim Wegner
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Dialogue mailing list
> >>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Dialogue mailing list
> >>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> OE mailing list
> >> OE at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
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> > Message: 6
> > Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:41:35 -0500
> > From: Diann McCabe <diann.mccabe at gmail.com>
> > To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> > Cc: Dialogue Lists <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>, Ken Fisher
> > <kenfisher1942 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical Community
> > <OE at wedgeblade.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
> > input requested
> > Message-ID:
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> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Thank you--and I agree with Karen's suggestion.
> > Diann McCabe
> >
> > On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:36?PM Ken Fisher via OE <
> oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
> >> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >>> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?. Karen
> >>
> >> Agree. Ken
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
> >> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >>>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
> >> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on
> July
> >> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will
> end
> >> on that date.
> >>>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
> >> to weigh in.
> >>>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
> >> will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for
> >> his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
> >>>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If
> >> we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
> >> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list
> >> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
> >> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
> >>>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> >> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
> >> the larger community.
> >>>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
> >> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
> >> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and
> >> what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> Tim Wegner
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Dialogue mailing list
> >>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Dialogue mailing list
> >>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> OE mailing list
> >> OE at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
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> >
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:52:55 -0500
> > From: Richard Alton <richard.alton at gmail.com>
> > To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> > Cc: Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>, Timothy Wegner
> > <tim at tswegner.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
> > input requested
> > Message-ID:
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> CABsV-y9bRT9Xm96PY1keNZ+3-7muAQsJWFRRU-S5Zq7UcTaCTQ at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > I would vote for one list with a new host. Dick
> >
> > On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:13?PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
> > dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
> just
> >> informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
> 21,
> >> 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end
> on
> >> that date.
> >>
> >> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to
> >> weigh in.
> >>
> >> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
> >> will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this
> >> for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
> >>
> >> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If
> we
> >> do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
> lists
> >> (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will
> >> suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
> oe-dialogue,
> >> or oe-ica?
> >>
> >> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> >> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
> >> the larger community.
> >>
> >> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
> but I
> >> had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate
> >> input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to
> call
> >> it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Tim Wegner
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Dialogue mailing list
> >> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> >>
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:36:14 -0700
> From: James Wiegel <jfwiegel at yahoo.com>
> To: richardandmaria at unfoldingfutures.net, Order Ecumenical Community
> <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] 1. End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> requested (Timothy Wegner)
> Message-ID: <B38E451F-3799-48A2-9E55-9554C65974E9 at yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> ?And though APPEARING to not be much active, there are apparently a good
> number just waiting, fingers poised above keyboards to jump in!!
> Jim Wiegel
> ??the long work
> of turning their lives
> into a celebration
> is not easy. Come and let us talk?.
>
> The Sunflowers. Mary Oliver
>
>
> > On May 25, 2026, at 3:04?PM, Richard and Maria Maguire via OE <
> oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> > ?HI Tim
> >
> > Thank you for your work over the years. I would be in favor of one list
> continuing. Dialog sounds fine for me as a name.
> >
> > On 26/05/2026 7:29 am, oe-request at lists.wedgeblade.net wrote:
> >> Send OE mailing list submissions to
> >> oe at lists.wedgeblade.net
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> >>
> >> 1. End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested (Timothy Wegner)
> >> 2. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> >> requested (Karen Snyder)
> >> 3. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> >> requested (Ken Fisher)
> >> 4. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> >> requested (jstanfieldica)
> >> 5. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> >> requested (Diann McCabe)
> >> 6. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> >> requested (Diann McCabe)
> >> 7. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> >> requested (Richard Alton)
> >> 8. Re: End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested
> >> (zbarley at earthlink.net)
> >> 9. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> >> requested (Mari Crocker)
> >> 10. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> >> requested (Linda and Milan Hamilton)
> >> 11. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> >> requested (Linda and Milan Hamilton)
> >> 12. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> >> requested (Linda and Milan Hamilton)
> >> 13. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> >> requested (Sharon Fisher)
> >> 14. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> >> requested (Sharon Fisher)
> >> 15. Re: [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing
> >> lists, input requested (Vincente S Scott)
> >> 16. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> >> requested (Seth Longacre)
> >>
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:10:19 -0500
> >> From: Timothy Wegner <tim at tswegner.net>
> >> To: Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>, Dialogue List
> >> <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> >> Subject: [Oe List ...] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> >> requested
> >> Message-ID:
> >> <CAFLr277dcwd_s1FF8R4B4HYPtz0weOvCx-pDn=1jnE+WnRNcCQ at mail.gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>
> >> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
> just
> >> informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
> 21,
> >> 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end
> on
> >> that date.
> >>
> >> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to
> >> weigh in.
> >>
> >> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
> will
> >> cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for his
> >> Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
> >>
> >> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If
> we
> >> do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
> lists
> >> (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will
> >> suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
> oe-dialogue,
> >> or oe-ica?
> >>
> >> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> reason
> >> to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the
> >> larger community.
> >>
> >> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
> but I
> >> had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate
> >> input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to
> call
> >> it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Tim Wegner
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> >>
> >> Message: 2
> >> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:15:32 -0500
> >> From: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>
> >> To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> >> Cc: Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>, Timothy Wegner
> >> <tim at tswegner.net>
> >> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
> >> input requested
> >> Message-ID: <0E7E5B8A-84C3-4B6F-AE1C-553145741D65 at gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >>
> >> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?. Karen
> >>
> >>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end
> on that date.
> >>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
> to weigh in.
> >>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
> will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for
> his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
> >>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If
> we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list
> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
> >>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
> the larger community.
> >>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and
> what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Tim Wegner
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Dialogue mailing list
> >>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 3
> >> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 16:34:25 -0400
> >> From: Ken Fisher <kenfisher1942 at gmail.com>
> >> To: Dialogue Lists <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> >> Cc: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical
> >> Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>
> >> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
> >> input requested
> >> Message-ID: <71A9E46F-D79F-426E-B81D-ADD823D3F856 at gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >>> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?. Karen
> >>
> >> Agree. Ken
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >>>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end
> on that date.
> >>>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
> to weigh in.
> >>>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing
> lists will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this
> for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
> >>>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists.
> If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list
> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
> >>>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
> the larger community.
> >>>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and
> what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Tim Wegner
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Dialogue mailing list
> >>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Dialogue mailing list
> >>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 4
> >> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 16:39:52 -0400
> >> From: jstanfieldica <jstanfieldica at gmail.com>
> >> To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> >> Cc: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical
> >> Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>
> >> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
> >> input requested
> >> Message-ID: <6a14b3a5.0cbb8811.227de.e49c at mx.google.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>
> >> I agree with Karen.? 1 listserve ICA Dialogue.Jeanette StanfieldSent
> from my Bell Samsung device over Canada's largest network.
> >> -------- Original message --------From: Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> Date: 2026-05-25 4:17 p.m. (GMT-05:00)
> To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> Cc: Karen Snyder <
> karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>
> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested I
> would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.? Karen> On May 25, 2026, at
> 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> wrote:> > Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing
> lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists
> on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists
> will end on that date.> > I want to discuss some options, and I would very
> much like folks here to weigh in.> > 1. First option is to do nothing,
> which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21.? Terry
> Bergdal? has opted to do this for his Earthrise
> li
> >> st. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.> > 2. The second
> option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I
> suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally
> OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the
> only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?>
> > The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
> the? larger community.> > Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I
> am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more
> years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past
> July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time? to end both the
> lists.> > Thanks,> > Tim Wegner> > >
> _______________________________________________> Dialogue mailing list>
> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedge
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> >> Message: 5
> >> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:41:35 -0500
> >> From: Diann McCabe <diann.mccabe at gmail.com>
> >> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> >> Cc: Dialogue Lists <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>, Ken Fisher
> >> <kenfisher1942 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical Community
> >> <OE at wedgeblade.net>
> >> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
> >> input requested
> >> Message-ID:
> >> <CANyB-Yi9KgoMnzWabVnfugbVupL0UD37qN14KJcFJ8MD4fx6DQ at mail.gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>
> >> Thank you--and I agree with Karen's suggestion.
> >> Diann McCabe
> >>
> >> On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:36?PM Ken Fisher via OE <
> oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
> >>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >>>> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?. Karen
> >>> Agree. Ken
> >>>>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
> >>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >>>>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
> >>> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on
> July
> >>> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists
> will end
> >>> on that date.
> >>>>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
> >>> to weigh in.
> >>>>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing
> lists
> >>> will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this
> for
> >>> his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
> >>>>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists.
> If
> >>> we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
> >>> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list
> >>> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
> >>> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
> >>>>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> >>> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
> >>> the larger community.
> >>>>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
> >>> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
> >>> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st
> (and
> >>> what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> Tim Wegner
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> Dialogue mailing list
> >>>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >>>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Dialogue mailing list
> >>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> OE mailing list
> >>> OE at lists.wedgeblade.net
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> >> Message: 6
> >> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:41:35 -0500
> >> From: Diann McCabe <diann.mccabe at gmail.com>
> >> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> >> Cc: Dialogue Lists <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>, Ken Fisher
> >> <kenfisher1942 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical Community
> >> <OE at wedgeblade.net>
> >> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
> >> input requested
> >> Message-ID:
> >> <CANyB-Yi9KgoMnzWabVnfugbVupL0UD37qN14KJcFJ8MD4fx6DQ at mail.gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>
> >> Thank you--and I agree with Karen's suggestion.
> >> Diann McCabe
> >>
> >> On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:36?PM Ken Fisher via OE <
> oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
> >>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >>>> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?. Karen
> >>> Agree. Ken
> >>>>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
> >>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >>>>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
> >>> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on
> July
> >>> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists
> will end
> >>> on that date.
> >>>>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
> >>> to weigh in.
> >>>>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing
> lists
> >>> will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this
> for
> >>> his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
> >>>>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists.
> If
> >>> we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
> >>> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list
> >>> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
> >>> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
> >>>>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> >>> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
> >>> the larger community.
> >>>>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
> >>> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
> >>> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st
> (and
> >>> what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> Tim Wegner
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> Dialogue mailing list
> >>>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >>>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Dialogue mailing list
> >>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> OE mailing list
> >>> OE at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
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> >> Message: 7
> >> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:52:55 -0500
> >> From: Richard Alton <richard.alton at gmail.com>
> >> To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> >> Cc: Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>, Timothy Wegner
> >> <tim at tswegner.net>
> >> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
> >> input requested
> >> Message-ID:
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> >> I would vote for one list with a new host. Dick
> >>
> >> On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:13?PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
> >> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
> just
> >>> informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
> 21,
> >>> 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will
> end on
> >>> that date.
> >>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
> to
> >>> weigh in.
> >>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
> >>> will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this
> >>> for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
> >>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If
> we
> >>> do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
> lists
> >>> (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will
> >>> suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
> oe-dialogue,
> >>> or oe-ica?
> >>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> >>> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
> >>> the larger community.
> >>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
> but I
> >>> had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
> appreciate
> >>> input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to
> call
> >>> it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Tim Wegner
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Dialogue mailing list
> >>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> > _______________________________________________
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