[Oe List ...] OE Digest, Vol 170, Issue 3
Beret Griffith
beretgriffith at gmail.com
Mon May 25 19:36:22 PDT 2026
O:E Dialogue combo will work for Paul Noah and myself. We appreciat
opportunity for continuing colleague contact.
Beret & Paul
On Mon, May 25, 2026, 9:22 PM Elsa Bengel via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
wrote:
> Wow. Not much time Tim. One list is best. In these painful times, I hope
> we can continue not only for life transitions but also for resistance,
> protest and vision.
> Elsa Bengel
>
>
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>> 1. Re: [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing
>> lists, input requested (Shelley Hahn)
>> 2. Re: [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing
>> lists, input requested (Shelley Hahn)
>> 3. Re: [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing
>> lists, input requested (David Marshall)
>> 4. Re: [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing
>> lists, input requested (David Marshall)
>> 5. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> requested (Timothy Wegner)
>> 6. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> requested (Ken Fisher)
>> 7. 1. End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested (Timothy
>> Wegner) (Richard and Maria Maguire)
>> 8. Re: 1. End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested
>> (Timothy Wegner) (James Wiegel)
>>
>>
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>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 17:35:24 -0400
>> From: Shelley Hahn <shelley.l.hahn at gmail.com>
>> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> Cc: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>, Order
>> Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of
>> mailing lists, input requested
>> Message-ID:
>> <
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>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> I hate the idea of losing this dialogue altogether. It does seem like one
>> email thread would be adequate. As a 2G member, my interest is actually
>> more on the OE side than ICA, so while it's just semantics, I'd vote for a
>> name that includes OE. Maybe OE/ICA Dialogue? I'm certainly not going to
>> stomp off in huff if you choose to just use ICA. ?
>>
>> Thank you so much for all you have done and continue to do, Tim!
>>
>> Fond regards,
>> Shelley Hahn
>>
>> On Mon, May 25, 2026, 5:29?PM Vincente S Scott via OE <
>> oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Tim and Richard, thank you for letting us know about the vulnerability
>> of
>> > losing mailing lists. Frankly, I know so little about mailing lists
>> that I
>> > can offer no helpful response.
>> >
>> > *BUT I DO KNOW THIS: *contact with members of the Current-Once & Future
>> > EI /OE/ICA is of tremendous value. Dialogue among our colleagues
>> > contributes greatly to my physical and mental health. Maybe it also
>> > contributes to the world's health. Written access is vital.
>> >
>> > *So, for the next weeks*, I will seek to correct my ignorance. Learn
>> > about our mailing lists. Make an informed recommendation. Thank you for
>> > your work. Vincente Scott
>> >
>> > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>> > Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
>> > ------------------------------
>> > *From:* Dialogue <dialogue-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net> on behalf of
>> > Richard Alton via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> > *Sent:* Monday, 25 May 2026 16:52:55
>> > *To:* Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> > *Cc:* Richard Alton <richard.alton at gmail.com>; Order Ecumenical
>> Community
>> > <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>> > *Subject:* [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>> > input requested
>> >
>> > I would vote for one list with a new host. Dick
>> >
>> > On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:13?PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
>> > dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
>> just
>> > informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
>> 21,
>> > 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end
>> on
>> > that date.
>> >
>> > I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to
>> > weigh in.
>> >
>> > 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
>> > will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this
>> > for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>> >
>> > 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If
>> we
>> > do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
>> lists
>> > (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will
>> > suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
>> oe-dialogue,
>> > or oe-ica?
>> >
>> > The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>> > reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
>> > the larger community.
>> >
>> > Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
>> but I
>> > had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate
>> > input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to
>> call
>> > it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Tim Wegner
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Dialogue mailing list
>> > Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> > http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Richard H. T. Alton
>> > ICA Global Fund
>> > United Methodist Creation Care
>> > Behold, all things are being made anew
>> > T: 773.344.7172
>> > richard.alton at gmail.com
>> >
>> > CAUTION: This email was sent from someone outside of the university. Do
>> > not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and
>> > know the content is safe.
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>> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 17:35:24 -0400
>> From: Shelley Hahn <shelley.l.hahn at gmail.com>
>> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> Cc: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>, Order
>> Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of
>> mailing lists, input requested
>> Message-ID:
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>> I hate the idea of losing this dialogue altogether. It does seem like one
>> email thread would be adequate. As a 2G member, my interest is actually
>> more on the OE side than ICA, so while it's just semantics, I'd vote for a
>> name that includes OE. Maybe OE/ICA Dialogue? I'm certainly not going to
>> stomp off in huff if you choose to just use ICA. ?
>>
>> Thank you so much for all you have done and continue to do, Tim!
>>
>> Fond regards,
>> Shelley Hahn
>>
>> On Mon, May 25, 2026, 5:29?PM Vincente S Scott via OE <
>> oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Tim and Richard, thank you for letting us know about the vulnerability
>> of
>> > losing mailing lists. Frankly, I know so little about mailing lists
>> that I
>> > can offer no helpful response.
>> >
>> > *BUT I DO KNOW THIS: *contact with members of the Current-Once & Future
>> > EI /OE/ICA is of tremendous value. Dialogue among our colleagues
>> > contributes greatly to my physical and mental health. Maybe it also
>> > contributes to the world's health. Written access is vital.
>> >
>> > *So, for the next weeks*, I will seek to correct my ignorance. Learn
>> > about our mailing lists. Make an informed recommendation. Thank you for
>> > your work. Vincente Scott
>> >
>> > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>> > Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
>> > ------------------------------
>> > *From:* Dialogue <dialogue-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net> on behalf of
>> > Richard Alton via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> > *Sent:* Monday, 25 May 2026 16:52:55
>> > *To:* Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> > *Cc:* Richard Alton <richard.alton at gmail.com>; Order Ecumenical
>> Community
>> > <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>> > *Subject:* [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>> > input requested
>> >
>> > I would vote for one list with a new host. Dick
>> >
>> > On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:13?PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
>> > dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
>> just
>> > informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
>> 21,
>> > 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end
>> on
>> > that date.
>> >
>> > I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to
>> > weigh in.
>> >
>> > 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
>> > will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this
>> > for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>> >
>> > 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If
>> we
>> > do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
>> lists
>> > (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will
>> > suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
>> oe-dialogue,
>> > or oe-ica?
>> >
>> > The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>> > reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
>> > the larger community.
>> >
>> > Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
>> but I
>> > had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate
>> > input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to
>> call
>> > it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Tim Wegner
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Dialogue mailing list
>> > Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> > http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Richard H. T. Alton
>> > ICA Global Fund
>> > United Methodist Creation Care
>> > Behold, all things are being made anew
>> > T: 773.344.7172
>> > richard.alton at gmail.com
>> >
>> > CAUTION: This email was sent from someone outside of the university. Do
>> > not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and
>> > know the content is safe.
>> > s61A4ef3l74X5Sa77QJi
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > OE mailing list
>> > OE at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> > http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
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>> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 14:44:53 -0700
>> From: David Marshall <davidpaulmarshall1956 at gmail.com>
>> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> Cc: Shelley Hahn <shelley.l.hahn at gmail.com>, Colleague Dialogue
>> <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>, Order Ecumenical Community
>> <oe at wedgeblade.net>, Order Ecumenical Community
>> <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of
>> mailing lists, input requested
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>> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 14:44:53 -0700
>> From: David Marshall <davidpaulmarshall1956 at gmail.com>
>> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> Cc: Shelley Hahn <shelley.l.hahn at gmail.com>, Colleague Dialogue
>> <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>, Order Ecumenical Community
>> <oe at wedgeblade.net>, Order Ecumenical Community
>> <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of
>> mailing lists, input requested
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 16:57:10 -0500
>> From: Timothy Wegner <tim at tswegner.net>
>> To: Mari Crocker <maricrocker at gmail.com>
>> Cc: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>,
>> "oe at wedgeblade.net" <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>> input requested
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>> Marilyn asked:
>>
>> Tim, would you be willing to spearhead that effort as you have in the
>> > past? What would you need from the rest of us? Marilyn
>>
>>
>> Yes I can spearhead starting a new list. The main help I need is what I am
>> getting here: expression of the desire to continue and ideas for what to
>> call the new list.
>>
>> I am looking at https://www.mailmanlists.net/ as the host. The cost
>> would
>> be $51.61 a year total, which I will happily pay. We can still use the
>> wedgeblade.net domain, which I own. There are good suggestions here for
>> the name of the list itself, after a few days I'll propose what looks like
>> the consensus. Stay tuned!
>>
>> We have until July 21st, but since the new list will likely have a
>> different name than either existing list, I can start it before the old
>> lists expire. My plan is to move all the members from both lists into the
>> new list. There are about 174 in each list, probably mostly the same
>> people.
>>
>> Thanks for all the responses! Keep posting suggestions and questions.
>>
>> Tim
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>> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 18:00:52 -0400
>> From: Ken Fisher <kenfisher1942 at gmail.com>
>> To: Dialogue Lists <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> Cc: Mari Crocker <maricrocker at gmail.com>, Timothy Wegner
>> <tim at tswegner.net>, "oe at wedgeblade.net" <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>> input requested
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>> Yay, Tim !!!
>> ? ever appreciative, Ken
>>
>> > On May 25, 2026, at 5:57?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > Marilyn asked:
>> >
>> >> Tim, would you be willing to spearhead that effort as you have in the
>> past? What would you need from the rest of us? Marilyn
>> >
>> > Yes I can spearhead starting a new list. The main help I need is what I
>> am getting here: expression of the desire to continue and ideas for what to
>> call the new list.
>> >
>> > I am looking at https://www.mailmanlists.net/ as the host. The cost
>> would be $51.61 a year total, which I will happily pay. We can still use
>> the wedgeblade.net <http://wedgeblade.net/> domain, which I own. There
>> are good suggestions here for the name of the list itself, after a few days
>> I'll propose what looks like the consensus. Stay tuned!
>> >
>> > We have until July 21st, but since the new list will likely have a
>> different name than either existing list, I can start it before the old
>> lists expire. My plan is to move all the members from both lists into the
>> new list. There are about 174 in each list, probably mostly the same people.
>> >
>> > Thanks for all the responses! Keep posting suggestions and questions.
>> >
>> > Tim
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Dialogue mailing list
>> > Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> > http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
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>> Message: 7
>> Date: Tue, 26 May 2026 08:05:04 +1000
>> From: Richard and Maria Maguire <richardandmaria at unfoldingfutures.net>
>> To: oe at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> Subject: [Oe List ...] 1. End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> requested (Timothy Wegner)
>> Message-ID:
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>> HI Tim
>>
>> Thank you for your work over the years.? I would be in favor of one list
>> continuing.? Dialog sounds fine for me as a name.
>>
>> On 26/05/2026 7:29 am, oe-request at lists.wedgeblade.net wrote:
>> > Send OE mailing list submissions to
>> > oe at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> >
>> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>> > http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
>> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>> > oe-request at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> >
>> > You can reach the person managing the list at
>> > oe-owner at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> >
>> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>> > than "Re: Contents of OE digest..."
>> >
>> >
>> > Today's Topics:
>> >
>> > 1. End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested (Timothy Wegner)
>> > 2. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> > requested (Karen Snyder)
>> > 3. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> > requested (Ken Fisher)
>> > 4. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> > requested (jstanfieldica)
>> > 5. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> > requested (Diann McCabe)
>> > 6. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> > requested (Diann McCabe)
>> > 7. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> > requested (Richard Alton)
>> > 8. Re: End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested
>> > (zbarley at earthlink.net)
>> > 9. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> > requested (Mari Crocker)
>> > 10. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> > requested (Linda and Milan Hamilton)
>> > 11. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> > requested (Linda and Milan Hamilton)
>> > 12. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> > requested (Linda and Milan Hamilton)
>> > 13. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> > requested (Sharon Fisher)
>> > 14. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> > requested (Sharon Fisher)
>> > 15. Re: [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing
>> > lists, input requested (Vincente S Scott)
>> > 16. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> > requested (Seth Longacre)
>> >
>> >
>> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> > Message: 1
>> > Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:10:19 -0500
>> > From: Timothy Wegner <tim at tswegner.net>
>> > To: Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>, Dialogue List
>> > <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> > Subject: [Oe List ...] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> > requested
>> > Message-ID:
>> > <CAFLr277dcwd_s1FF8R4B4HYPtz0weOvCx-pDn=
>> 1jnE+WnRNcCQ at mail.gmail.com>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> >
>> > Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
>> just
>> > informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
>> 21,
>> > 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end
>> on
>> > that date.
>> >
>> > I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to
>> > weigh in.
>> >
>> > 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
>> will
>> > cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for his
>> > Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>> >
>> > 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If
>> we
>> > do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
>> lists
>> > (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will
>> > suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
>> oe-dialogue,
>> > or oe-ica?
>> >
>> > The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>> reason
>> > to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the
>> > larger community.
>> >
>> > Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
>> but I
>> > had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate
>> > input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to
>> call
>> > it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Tim Wegner
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>> > Message: 2
>> > Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:15:32 -0500
>> > From: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>
>> > To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> > Cc: Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>, Timothy Wegner
>> > <tim at tswegner.net>
>> > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>> > input requested
>> > Message-ID: <0E7E5B8A-84C3-4B6F-AE1C-553145741D65 at gmail.com>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>> >
>> > I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?. Karen
>> >
>> >> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
>> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
>> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end
>> on that date.
>> >>
>> >> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
>> to weigh in.
>> >>
>> >> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
>> will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for
>> his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>> >>
>> >> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If
>> we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
>> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list
>> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
>> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
>> >>
>> >> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
>> the larger community.
>> >>
>> >> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
>> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
>> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and
>> what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> Tim Wegner
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> Dialogue mailing list
>> >> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> >> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------
>> >
>> > Message: 3
>> > Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 16:34:25 -0400
>> > From: Ken Fisher <kenfisher1942 at gmail.com>
>> > To: Dialogue Lists <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> > Cc: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical
>> > Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>> > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>> > input requested
>> > Message-ID: <71A9E46F-D79F-426E-B81D-ADD823D3F856 at gmail.com>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?. Karen
>> >
>> > Agree. Ken
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
>> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
>> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end
>> on that date.
>> >>>
>> >>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
>> to weigh in.
>> >>>
>> >>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing
>> lists will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this
>> for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>> >>>
>> >>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists.
>> If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
>> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list
>> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
>> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
>> >>>
>> >>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
>> the larger community.
>> >>>
>> >>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
>> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
>> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and
>> what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>>
>> >>> Tim Wegner
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> _______________________________________________
>> >>> Dialogue mailing list
>> >>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> >>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> Dialogue mailing list
>> >> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> >> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------
>> >
>> > Message: 4
>> > Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 16:39:52 -0400
>> > From: jstanfieldica <jstanfieldica at gmail.com>
>> > To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> > Cc: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical
>> > Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>> > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>> > input requested
>> > Message-ID: <6a14b3a5.0cbb8811.227de.e49c at mx.google.com>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> >
>> > I agree with Karen.? 1 listserve ICA Dialogue.Jeanette StanfieldSent
>> from my Bell Samsung device over Canada's largest network.
>> > -------- Original message --------From: Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> Date: 2026-05-25 4:17 p.m. (GMT-05:00)
>> To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> Cc: Karen Snyder <
>> karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested I
>> would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.? Karen> On May 25, 2026, at
>> 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> wrote:> > Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing
>> lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists
>> on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists
>> will end on that date.> > I want to discuss some options, and I would very
>> much like folks here to weigh in.> > 1. First option is to do nothing,
>> which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21.? Terry
>> Bergdal? has opted to do this for his Earthrise
>> li
>> > st. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.> > 2. The second
>> option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I
>> suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally
>> OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the
>> only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?>
>> > The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
>> the? larger community.> > Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I
>> am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more
>> years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past
>> July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time? to end both the
>> lists.> > Thanks,> > Tim Wegner> > >
>> _______________________________________________> Dialogue mailing list>
>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedge
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>> > Message: 5
>> > Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:41:35 -0500
>> > From: Diann McCabe <diann.mccabe at gmail.com>
>> > To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> > Cc: Dialogue Lists <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>, Ken Fisher
>> > <kenfisher1942 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical Community
>> > <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>> > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>> > input requested
>> > Message-ID:
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>> > Thank you--and I agree with Karen's suggestion.
>> > Diann McCabe
>> >
>> > On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:36?PM Ken Fisher via OE <
>> oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
>> >> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>> >>> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?. Karen
>> >>
>> >> Agree. Ken
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
>> >> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>> >>>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
>> >> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on
>> July
>> >> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists
>> will end
>> >> on that date.
>> >>>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
>> >> to weigh in.
>> >>>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing
>> lists
>> >> will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this
>> for
>> >> his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>> >>>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists.
>> If
>> >> we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
>> >> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list
>> >> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
>> >> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
>> >>>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>> >> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
>> >> the larger community.
>> >>>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
>> >> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
>> >> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st
>> (and
>> >> what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
>> >>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Tim Wegner
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> _______________________________________________
>> >>>> Dialogue mailing list
>> >>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> >>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>> >>> _______________________________________________
>> >>> Dialogue mailing list
>> >>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> >>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> OE mailing list
>> >> OE at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> >> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
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>> > Message: 6
>> > Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:41:35 -0500
>> > From: Diann McCabe <diann.mccabe at gmail.com>
>> > To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> > Cc: Dialogue Lists <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>, Ken Fisher
>> > <kenfisher1942 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical Community
>> > <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>> > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>> > input requested
>> > Message-ID:
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>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
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>> > Thank you--and I agree with Karen's suggestion.
>> > Diann McCabe
>> >
>> > On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:36?PM Ken Fisher via OE <
>> oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
>> >> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>> >>> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?. Karen
>> >>
>> >> Agree. Ken
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
>> >> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>> >>>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
>> >> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on
>> July
>> >> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists
>> will end
>> >> on that date.
>> >>>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
>> >> to weigh in.
>> >>>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing
>> lists
>> >> will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this
>> for
>> >> his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>> >>>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists.
>> If
>> >> we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
>> >> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list
>> >> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
>> >> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
>> >>>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>> >> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
>> >> the larger community.
>> >>>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
>> >> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
>> >> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st
>> (and
>> >> what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
>> >>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Tim Wegner
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> _______________________________________________
>> >>>> Dialogue mailing list
>> >>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> >>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>> >>> _______________________________________________
>> >>> Dialogue mailing list
>> >>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> >>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> OE mailing list
>> >> OE at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> >> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
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>> > Message: 7
>> > Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:52:55 -0500
>> > From: Richard Alton <richard.alton at gmail.com>
>> > To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> > Cc: Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>, Timothy Wegner
>> > <tim at tswegner.net>
>> > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>> > input requested
>> > Message-ID:
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>> >
>> > I would vote for one list with a new host. Dick
>> >
>> > On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:13?PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
>> > dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
>> just
>> >> informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
>> 21,
>> >> 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will
>> end on
>> >> that date.
>> >>
>> >> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
>> to
>> >> weigh in.
>> >>
>> >> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
>> >> will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this
>> >> for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>> >>
>> >> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If
>> we
>> >> do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
>> lists
>> >> (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will
>> >> suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
>> oe-dialogue,
>> >> or oe-ica?
>> >>
>> >> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>> >> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
>> >> the larger community.
>> >>
>> >> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
>> but I
>> >> had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
>> appreciate
>> >> input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to
>> call
>> >> it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> Tim Wegner
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> Dialogue mailing list
>> >> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> >> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>> >>
>> >
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:36:14 -0700
>> From: James Wiegel <jfwiegel at yahoo.com>
>> To: richardandmaria at unfoldingfutures.net, Order Ecumenical Community
>> <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] 1. End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> requested (Timothy Wegner)
>> Message-ID: <B38E451F-3799-48A2-9E55-9554C65974E9 at yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> ?And though APPEARING to not be much active, there are apparently a good
>> number just waiting, fingers poised above keyboards to jump in!!
>> Jim Wiegel
>> ??the long work
>> of turning their lives
>> into a celebration
>> is not easy. Come and let us talk?.
>>
>> The Sunflowers. Mary Oliver
>>
>>
>> > On May 25, 2026, at 3:04?PM, Richard and Maria Maguire via OE <
>> oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>> > ?HI Tim
>> >
>> > Thank you for your work over the years. I would be in favor of one
>> list continuing. Dialog sounds fine for me as a name.
>> >
>> > On 26/05/2026 7:29 am, oe-request at lists.wedgeblade.net wrote:
>> >> Send OE mailing list submissions to
>> >> oe at lists.wedgeblade.net
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>> >>
>> >> 1. End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested (Timothy Wegner)
>> >> 2. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> >> requested (Karen Snyder)
>> >> 3. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> >> requested (Ken Fisher)
>> >> 4. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> >> requested (jstanfieldica)
>> >> 5. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> >> requested (Diann McCabe)
>> >> 6. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> >> requested (Diann McCabe)
>> >> 7. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> >> requested (Richard Alton)
>> >> 8. Re: End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested
>> >> (zbarley at earthlink.net)
>> >> 9. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> >> requested (Mari Crocker)
>> >> 10. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> >> requested (Linda and Milan Hamilton)
>> >> 11. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> >> requested (Linda and Milan Hamilton)
>> >> 12. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> >> requested (Linda and Milan Hamilton)
>> >> 13. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> >> requested (Sharon Fisher)
>> >> 14. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> >> requested (Sharon Fisher)
>> >> 15. Re: [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing
>> >> lists, input requested (Vincente S Scott)
>> >> 16. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> >> requested (Seth Longacre)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> Message: 1
>> >> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:10:19 -0500
>> >> From: Timothy Wegner <tim at tswegner.net>
>> >> To: Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>, Dialogue List
>> >> <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> >> Subject: [Oe List ...] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> >> requested
>> >> Message-ID:
>> >> <CAFLr277dcwd_s1FF8R4B4HYPtz0weOvCx-pDn=1jnE+WnRNcCQ at mail.gmail.com
>> >
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> >>
>> >> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
>> just
>> >> informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
>> 21,
>> >> 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will
>> end on
>> >> that date.
>> >>
>> >> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
>> to
>> >> weigh in.
>> >>
>> >> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
>> will
>> >> cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for his
>> >> Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>> >>
>> >> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If
>> we
>> >> do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
>> lists
>> >> (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will
>> >> suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
>> oe-dialogue,
>> >> or oe-ica?
>> >>
>> >> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>> reason
>> >> to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the
>> >> larger community.
>> >>
>> >> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
>> but I
>> >> had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
>> appreciate
>> >> input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to
>> call
>> >> it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> Tim Wegner
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>> >>
>> >> Message: 2
>> >> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:15:32 -0500
>> >> From: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>
>> >> To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> >> Cc: Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>, Timothy Wegner
>> >> <tim at tswegner.net>
>> >> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>> >> input requested
>> >> Message-ID: <0E7E5B8A-84C3-4B6F-AE1C-553145741D65 at gmail.com>
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>> >>
>> >> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?. Karen
>> >>
>> >>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>> >>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
>> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
>> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end
>> on that date.
>> >>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
>> to weigh in.
>> >>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing
>> lists will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this
>> for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>> >>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists.
>> If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
>> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list
>> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
>> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
>> >>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
>> the larger community.
>> >>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
>> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
>> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and
>> what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>> Tim Wegner
>> >>> _______________________________________________
>> >>> Dialogue mailing list
>> >>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> >>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> Message: 3
>> >> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 16:34:25 -0400
>> >> From: Ken Fisher <kenfisher1942 at gmail.com>
>> >> To: Dialogue Lists <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> >> Cc: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical
>> >> Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>> >> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>> >> input requested
>> >> Message-ID: <71A9E46F-D79F-426E-B81D-ADD823D3F856 at gmail.com>
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>> >>> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?. Karen
>> >>
>> >> Agree. Ken
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>> >>>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing
>> lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists
>> on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists
>> will end on that date.
>> >>>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks
>> here to weigh in.
>> >>>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing
>> lists will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this
>> for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>> >>>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists.
>> If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
>> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list
>> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
>> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
>> >>>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
>> the larger community.
>> >>>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
>> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
>> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and
>> what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
>> >>>> Thanks,
>> >>>> Tim Wegner
>> >>>> _______________________________________________
>> >>>> Dialogue mailing list
>> >>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> >>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>> >>> _______________________________________________
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>> >>
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>> >> Message: 4
>> >> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 16:39:52 -0400
>> >> From: jstanfieldica <jstanfieldica at gmail.com>
>> >> To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> >> Cc: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical
>> >> Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>> >> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>> >> input requested
>> >> Message-ID: <6a14b3a5.0cbb8811.227de.e49c at mx.google.com>
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> >>
>> >> I agree with Karen.? 1 listserve ICA Dialogue.Jeanette StanfieldSent
>> from my Bell Samsung device over Canada's largest network.
>> >> -------- Original message --------From: Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> Date: 2026-05-25 4:17 p.m. (GMT-05:00)
>> To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> Cc: Karen Snyder <
>> karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested I
>> would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.? Karen> On May 25, 2026, at
>> 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> wrote:> > Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing
>> lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists
>> on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists
>> will end on that date.> > I want to discuss some options, and I would very
>> much like folks here to weigh in.> > 1. First option is to do nothing,
>> which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21.? Terry
>> Bergdal? has opted to do this for his Earthrise
>> li
>> >> st. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.> > 2. The second
>> option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I
>> suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally
>> OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the
>> only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?>
>> > The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
>> the? larger community.> > Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I
>> am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more
>> years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past
>> July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time? to end both the
>> lists.> > Thanks,> > Tim Wegner> > >
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>> >> Message: 5
>> >> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:41:35 -0500
>> >> From: Diann McCabe <diann.mccabe at gmail.com>
>> >> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> >> Cc: Dialogue Lists <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>, Ken Fisher
>> >> <kenfisher1942 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical Community
>> >> <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>> >> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>> >> input requested
>> >> Message-ID:
>> >> <CANyB-Yi9KgoMnzWabVnfugbVupL0UD37qN14KJcFJ8MD4fx6DQ at mail.gmail.com
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>> >> Thank you--and I agree with Karen's suggestion.
>> >> Diann McCabe
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:36?PM Ken Fisher via OE <
>> oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
>> >>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>> >>>> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?. Karen
>> >>> Agree. Ken
>> >>>>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
>> >>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>> >>>>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing
>> lists,
>> >>> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on
>> July
>> >>> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists
>> will end
>> >>> on that date.
>> >>>>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks
>> here
>> >>> to weigh in.
>> >>>>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing
>> lists
>> >>> will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this
>> for
>> >>> his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>> >>>>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists.
>> If
>> >>> we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
>> >>> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one
>> list
>> >>> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
>> >>> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
>> >>>>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>> >>> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions
>> to
>> >>> the larger community.
>> >>>>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
>> >>> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
>> >>> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st
>> (and
>> >>> what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
>> >>>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>> Tim Wegner
>> >>>>> _______________________________________________
>> >>>>> Dialogue mailing list
>> >>>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> >>>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>> >>>> _______________________________________________
>> >>>> Dialogue mailing list
>> >>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> >>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
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>> >> Message: 6
>> >> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:41:35 -0500
>> >> From: Diann McCabe <diann.mccabe at gmail.com>
>> >> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> >> Cc: Dialogue Lists <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>, Ken Fisher
>> >> <kenfisher1942 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical Community
>> >> <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>> >> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>> >> input requested
>> >> Message-ID:
>> >> <CANyB-Yi9KgoMnzWabVnfugbVupL0UD37qN14KJcFJ8MD4fx6DQ at mail.gmail.com
>> >
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
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>> >> Thank you--and I agree with Karen's suggestion.
>> >> Diann McCabe
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:36?PM Ken Fisher via OE <
>> oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
>> >>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>> >>>> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?. Karen
>> >>> Agree. Ken
>> >>>>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
>> >>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>> >>>>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing
>> lists,
>> >>> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on
>> July
>> >>> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists
>> will end
>> >>> on that date.
>> >>>>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks
>> here
>> >>> to weigh in.
>> >>>>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing
>> lists
>> >>> will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this
>> for
>> >>> his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>> >>>>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists.
>> If
>> >>> we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
>> >>> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one
>> list
>> >>> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
>> >>> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
>> >>>>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>> >>> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions
>> to
>> >>> the larger community.
>> >>>>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
>> >>> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
>> >>> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st
>> (and
>> >>> what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
>> >>>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>> Tim Wegner
>> >>>>> _______________________________________________
>> >>>>> Dialogue mailing list
>> >>>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> >>>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>> >>>> _______________________________________________
>> >>>> Dialogue mailing list
>> >>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> >>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
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>> >> Message: 7
>> >> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:52:55 -0500
>> >> From: Richard Alton <richard.alton at gmail.com>
>> >> To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> >> Cc: Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>, Timothy Wegner
>> >> <tim at tswegner.net>
>> >> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>> >> input requested
>> >> Message-ID:
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>> >> I would vote for one list with a new host. Dick
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:13?PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
>> >> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
>> just
>> >>> informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
>> 21,
>> >>> 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will
>> end on
>> >>> that date.
>> >>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
>> to
>> >>> weigh in.
>> >>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
>> >>> will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this
>> >>> for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>> >>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists.
>> If we
>> >>> do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
>> lists
>> >>> (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will
>> >>> suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
>> oe-dialogue,
>> >>> or oe-ica?
>> >>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>> >>> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions
>> to
>> >>> the larger community.
>> >>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
>> but I
>> >>> had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
>> appreciate
>> >>> input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to
>> call
>> >>> it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>> Tim Wegner
>> >>> _______________________________________________
>> >>> Dialogue mailing list
>> >>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> >>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>> > _______________________________________________
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