[Oe List ...] Pentecost Blessings

[Jean Long via OE]

jean long here -

Has anyone put together the suggestions for the pentecostal song?

jean

On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Jean Long <jean.long512 at gmail.com> wrote:

> jean long here -
> thanks, Sherwood.  Mama Cass's song is the tune to which these words were
> written.
> Jean
>
> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 10:12 PM, Marilyn Crocker via OE <
> oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jack,
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>> I just caught up with this conversation about the Pentecost Hymn editing.
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>> I find the last line of each stanza awkward :  “for Earth’s call.”
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>> How about substituting “for us all.”  This is both inclusive, and easy
>> for us to get our mouths around (as singers.)  Consider what is required to
>> say “Earth’s call” versus “us all.”
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>> Additionally, I was not clear on the concept of “Earth’s call.”  I could
>> go on, but will not, since it is late and I need to turn in.
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>> Much love to you all,
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>>
>>
>> Marilyn and Joe
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>> *From:* OE [mailto:oe-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net] *On Behalf Of *Jack
>> Gilles via OE
>> *Sent:* Sunday, June 04, 2017 2:49 PM
>> *To:* Zoe Barley; OE Listserve
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Oe List ...] Pentecost Blessings
>>
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>> Dear Zoe,
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>>
>>
>> I know we have tried hard to substitute new words for what might be seen
>> as sexist or even “two story”. But is important to understand that if you
>> are in the realm of the meaning of words you are in the left brain’s
>> domain. Yes, when speaking or writing about things this can be not only
>> helpful, but very important.
>>
>>
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>> But a song is about the Singing, not just the words. For singing (and
>> poetry) is a method to reach the right brain, the spiritual domain, and one
>> sings from the heart, allowing the words to flow with a deep awareness of
>> any words inadequacy to speak about our relationship to the Mystery. But
>> try we must try not to communicate an offence or “untruth” if we can. I
>> think we did a pretty good job for the most part in our great songs,
>> including our ability to sing some old hymns with transparency and profound
>> understanding.
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>> Peace,
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>>
>> Jack
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>> On Jun 4, 2017, at 09:48, zbarley via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
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>> Interesting how world or earth make different meanings. What about the
>> second storey? Heaven demythologized?
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>>
>> Zoe
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>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
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>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Ellie Stock via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> Date: 06/04/2017 8:15 AM (GMT-07:00)
>> To: jpc2025 at outlook.com, oe at lists.wedgeblade.net,
>> karen.snyder10 at gmail.com
>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Pentecost Blessings
>>
>> or..."for Earth's Call'?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: John C via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> To: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>; Order Ecumenical Community <
>> oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> Sent: Sun, Jun 4, 2017 8:19 am
>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Pentecost Blessings
>>
>> What about “for the Earth”?
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>> *From: *OE <oe-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net> on behalf of Karen Snyder
>> via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> *Reply-To: *Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical
>> Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> *Date: *Sunday, June 4, 2017 at 9:18 AM
>> *To: *"KarenBueno at aol.com" <karenbueno at aol.com>, Order Ecumenical
>> Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> *Subject: *Re: [Oe List ...] Pentecost Blessings
>>
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>>
>> Thank you Lynda, Randy and Karen. The power of corporate writing shines
>> again!
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>>
>> Karen Snyder
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>> On Jun 4, 2017, at 8:09 AM, Karenbueno via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> wrote:
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>> Revised for gender equity, and acknowledging other parts of creation:
>>
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>> PENECOST HYMN
>>
>> Tune: There's New World Coming
>>
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>> Like the sound of heaven with the rushing of the wind
>>
>> Came the fire a-burning and new life was given to all
>>
>> The young see visions and the old dream dreams
>>
>> Born of fire, filled with power, for the world.
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>> To the light from darkness, and to freedom from fear
>>
>> Building from the ashes into one community
>>
>> Peter, Paul, and Luther, Augustine and Benedict
>>
>> Born of fire, filled with power, for the world.
>>
>>
>>
>> With despair abounding and a lack of hope around
>>
>> Still the Spirit comes to the ones who birth the day
>>
>> Giving breath and being to the ones who give their death
>>
>> Born of fire, filled with power, for the world.
>>
>>
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>> For the coming ages and the journey of mankind
>>
>> We claim the promise that the fire give life to them
>>
>> Deciding freely to live on behalf of all
>>
>> Born of fire, filled with power, for the world.
>>
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>> (Karen Bueno)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Lynda C via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> To: OE List <OE at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> Sent: Sun, Jun 4, 2017 5:05 am
>> Subject: [Oe List ...] Pentecost Blessings
>>
>> This song was a powerful one for me, even with its old style gender.  I
>> never did find a replaceable word that fit the meter and the meaning.  Wish
>> I could hear some of our great voices and our not so great voices singing
>> this on this Pentecost Sunday.  I recall how the harmony filled the room
>> with its power.        Sing out wherever you are!     Lynda Cock
>>
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>> PENECOST HYMN
>>
>> Tune: There's New World Coming
>>
>>
>>
>> Like the sound of heaven with the rushing of the wind
>>
>> Came the fire a-burning and new life was given to men.
>>
>> The young see visions and the old dream dreams
>>
>> Born of fire, filled with power, for all men.
>>
>>
>>
>> To the light from darkness, and to freedom from fear
>>
>> Building from the ashes into one community
>>
>> Peter, Paul, and Luther, Augustine and Benedict
>>
>> Born of fire, filled with power, for all men.
>>
>>
>>
>> With despair abounding and a lack of hope around
>>
>> Still the Spirit comes to the ones who birth the day
>>
>> Giving breath and being to the ones who give their death
>>
>> Born of fire, filled with power, for all men.
>>
>>
>>
>> For the coming ages and the journey of mankind
>>
>> We claim the promise that the fire give life to them
>>
>> Deciding freely to live on behalf of all
>>
>> Born of fire, filled with power, for all men.
>>
>>
>>
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