<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">jean long here -</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Has anyone put together the suggestions for the pentecostal song?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">jean</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Jean Long <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jean.long512@gmail.com" target="_blank">jean.long512@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">jean long here -</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">thanks, Sherwood. Mama Cass's song is the tune to which these words were written.</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Jean</div></font></span></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 10:12 PM, Marilyn Crocker via OE <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap:break-word"><div class="m_-8240298232344229335m_-2463843400738315636WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d">Hi Jack,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d">I just caught up with this conversation about the Pentecost Hymn editing.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d">I find the last line of each stanza awkward : “for Earth’s call.”<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d">How about substituting “for us all.” This is both inclusive, and easy for us to get our mouths around (as singers.) Consider what is required to say “Earth’s call” versus “us all.”<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d">Additionally, I was not clear on the concept of “Earth’s call.” I could go on, but will not, since it is late and I need to turn in. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d">Much love to you all,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d">Marilyn and Joe<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> OE [mailto:<a href="mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">oe-bounces@lists.wedge<wbr>blade.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jack Gilles via OE<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, June 04, 2017 2:49 PM<br><b>To:</b> Zoe Barley; OE Listserve</span></p><div><div class="m_-8240298232344229335h5"><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Oe List ...] Pentecost Blessings<u></u><u></u></div></div><p></p></div></div><div><div class="m_-8240298232344229335h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Dear Zoe,<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I know we have tried hard to substitute new words for what might be seen as sexist or even “two story”. But is important to understand that if you are in the realm of the meaning of words you are in the left brain’s domain. Yes, when speaking or writing about things this can be not only helpful, but very important.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">But a song is about the Singing, not just the words. For singing (and poetry) is a method to reach the right brain, the spiritual domain, and one sings from the heart, allowing the words to flow with a deep awareness of any words inadequacy to speak about our relationship to the Mystery. But try we must try not to communicate an offence or “untruth” if we can. I think we did a pretty good job for the most part in our great songs, including our ability to sing some old hymns with transparency and profound understanding. <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Peace,<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Jack<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Jun 4, 2017, at 09:48, zbarley via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Interesting how world or earth make different meanings. What about the second storey? Heaven demythologized?<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Zoe <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-8240298232344229335m_-2463843400738315636composer_signature"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#575757">Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: Ellie Stock via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><span class="m_-8240298232344229335m_-2463843400738315636apple-converted-space"> </span><br>Date: 06/04/2017 8:15 AM (GMT-07:00)<span class="m_-8240298232344229335m_-2463843400738315636apple-converted-space"> </span><br>To: <a href="mailto:jpc2025@outlook.com" target="_blank">jpc2025@outlook.com</a>, <a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>, <a href="mailto:karen.snyder10@gmail.com" target="_blank">karen.snyder10@gmail.com</a><span class="m_-8240298232344229335m_-2463843400738315636apple-converted-space"> </span><br>Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Pentecost Blessings<span class="m_-8240298232344229335m_-2463843400738315636apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">or..."for Earth's Call'?<br><br><u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">-----Original Message-----<br>From: John C via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br>To: Karen Snyder <<a href="mailto:karen.snyder10@gmail.com" target="_blank">karen.snyder10@gmail.com</a>>; Order Ecumenical Community <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br>Sent: Sun, Jun 4, 2017 8:19 am<br>Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Pentecost Blessings<u></u><u></u></span></p><div id="m_-8240298232344229335m_-2463843400738315636AOLMsgPart_1.2_3f4fd28a-66ae-48b9-a243-b732bb90437c"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">What about “for the Earth”?</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:<span class="m_-8240298232344229335m_-2463843400738315636apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">OE <oe-<a href="mailto:bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">bounces@lists.wedgeblade.n<wbr>et</span></a>> on behalf of Karen Snyder via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</span></a>><br><b>Reply-To:<span class="m_-8240298232344229335m_-2463843400738315636apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Karen Snyder <<a href="mailto:karen.snyder10@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">karen.snyder10@gmail.com</span></a>>, Order Ecumenical Community <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</span></a>><br><b>Date:<span class="m_-8240298232344229335m_-2463843400738315636apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Sunday, June 4, 2017 at 9:18 AM<br><b>To:<span class="m_-8240298232344229335m_-2463843400738315636apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"<a href="mailto:KarenBueno@aol.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">KarenBueno@aol.com</span></a>" <<a href="mailto:karenbueno@aol.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">karenbueno@aol.com</span></a>>, Order Ecumenical Community <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</span></a>><br><b>Subject:<span class="m_-8240298232344229335m_-2463843400738315636apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [Oe List ...] Pentecost Blessings</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Thank you Lynda, Randy and Karen. The power of corporate writing shines again! <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Karen Snyder<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Jun 4, 2017, at 8:09 AM, Karenbueno via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</span></a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Revised for gender equity, and acknowledging other parts of creation:</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><pre>PENECOST HYMN<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>Tune: There's New World Coming<u></u><u></u></pre><pre> <u></u><u></u></pre><pre>Like the sound of heaven with the rushing of the wind <u></u><u></u></pre><pre>Came the fire a-burning and new life was given to all <u></u><u></u></pre><pre>The young see visions and the old dream dreams <u></u><u></u></pre><pre>Born of fire, filled with power, for the world.<u></u><u></u></pre><pre> <u></u><u></u></pre><pre>To the light from darkness, and to freedom from fear <u></u><u></u></pre><pre>Building from the ashes into one community <u></u><u></u></pre><pre>Peter, Paul, and Luther, Augustine and Benedict <u></u><u></u></pre><pre>Born of fire, filled with power, for the world.<u></u><u></u></pre><pre> <u></u><u></u></pre><pre>With despair abounding and a lack of hope around <u></u><u></u></pre><pre>Still the Spirit comes to the ones who birth the day <u></u><u></u></pre><pre>Giving breath and being to the ones who give their death <u></u><u></u></pre><pre>Born of fire, filled with power, for the world.<u></u><u></u></pre><pre> <u></u><u></u></pre><pre>For the coming ages and the journey of mankind <u></u><u></u></pre><pre>We claim the promise that the fire give life to them <u></u><u></u></pre><pre>Deciding freely to live on behalf of all <u></u><u></u></pre><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Born of fire, filled with power, for the world.<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">(Karen Bueno)</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">-----Original Message-----<br>From: Lynda C via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</span></a>><br>To: OE List <<a href="mailto:OE@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">OE@lists.wedgeblade.net</span></a>><br>Sent: Sun, Jun 4, 2017 5:05 am<br>Subject: [Oe List ...] Pentecost Blessings</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div id="m_-8240298232344229335m_-2463843400738315636aolmail_AOLMsgPart_1.2_b8b4c16a-99e9-472e-afae-801786a01a8c"><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">This song was a powerful one for me, even with its old style gender. I never did find a replaceable word that fit the meter and the meaning. Wish I could hear some of our great voices and our not so great voices singing this on this Pentecost Sunday. I recall how the harmony filled the room with its power. Sing out wherever you are! Lynda Cock</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><pre style="word-wrap:break-word;white-space:pre-wrap">PENECOST HYMN<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>Tune: There's New World Coming<u></u><u></u></pre><pre> <u></u><u></u></pre><pre>Like the sound of heaven with the rushing of the wind <u></u><u></u></pre><pre>Came the fire a-burning and new life was given to men. <u></u><u></u></pre><pre>The young see visions and the old dream dreams <u></u><u></u></pre><pre>Born of fire, filled with power, for all men.<u></u><u></u></pre><pre> <u></u><u></u></pre><pre>To the light from darkness, and to freedom from fear <u></u><u></u></pre><pre>Building from the ashes into one community <u></u><u></u></pre><pre>Peter, Paul, and Luther, Augustine and Benedict <u></u><u></u></pre><pre>Born of fire, filled with power, for all men.<u></u><u></u></pre><pre> <u></u><u></u></pre><pre>With despair abounding and a lack of hope around <u></u><u></u></pre><pre>Still the Spirit comes to the ones who birth the day <u></u><u></u></pre><pre>Giving breath and being to the ones who give their death <u></u><u></u></pre><pre>Born of fire, filled with power, for all men.<u></u><u></u></pre><pre> <u></u><u></u></pre><pre>For the coming ages and the journey of mankind <u></u><u></u></pre><pre>We claim the promise that the fire give life to them <u></u><u></u></pre><pre>Deciding freely to live on behalf of all <u></u><u></u></pre><pre>Born of fire, filled with power, for all men.<u></u><u></u></pre><pre> <u></u><u></u></pre></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>OE mailing list<br><a href="mailto:OE@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">OE@lists.wedgeblade.net</span></a><br><a href="http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">http://lists.wedgeblade.net/li<wbr>stinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net</span></a></span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>OE mailing list<br><a href="mailto:OE@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">OE@lists.wedgeblade.net</span></a><br><a href="http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">http://lists.wedgeblade.net/li<wbr>stinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net</span></a><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></blockquote></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>OE mailing list<br><a href="mailto:OE@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">OE@lists.wedgeblade.net</a><br><a href="http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">http://lists.wedgeblade.net/li<wbr>stinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>OE mailing list<br><a href="mailto:OE@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">OE@lists.wedgeblade.net</a><br><a href="http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">http://lists.wedgeblade.net/li<wbr>stinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net</a></span><u></u><u></u></p></div></blockquote></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div></div></div></div><br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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