[Oe List ...] Pentecost Blessings

Tue Jun 6 10:12:33 PDT 2017

jean long here -
thanks, Sherwood.  Mama Cass's song is the tune to which these words were
written.
Jean

On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 10:12 PM, Marilyn Crocker via OE <
oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:

> Hi Jack,
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> I just caught up with this conversation about the Pentecost Hymn editing.
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> I find the last line of each stanza awkward :  “for Earth’s call.”
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> How about substituting “for us all.”  This is both inclusive, and easy for
> us to get our mouths around (as singers.)  Consider what is required to say
> “Earth’s call” versus “us all.”
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> Additionally, I was not clear on the concept of “Earth’s call.”  I could
> go on, but will not, since it is late and I need to turn in.
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> Much love to you all,
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> Marilyn and Joe
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> *From:* OE [mailto:oe-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net] *On Behalf Of *Jack
> Gilles via OE
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 04, 2017 2:49 PM
> *To:* Zoe Barley; OE Listserve
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> *Subject:* Re: [Oe List ...] Pentecost Blessings
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> Dear Zoe,
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> I know we have tried hard to substitute new words for what might be seen
> as sexist or even “two story”. But is important to understand that if you
> are in the realm of the meaning of words you are in the left brain’s
> domain. Yes, when speaking or writing about things this can be not only
> helpful, but very important.
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> But a song is about the Singing, not just the words. For singing (and
> poetry) is a method to reach the right brain, the spiritual domain, and one
> sings from the heart, allowing the words to flow with a deep awareness of
> any words inadequacy to speak about our relationship to the Mystery. But
> try we must try not to communicate an offence or “untruth” if we can. I
> think we did a pretty good job for the most part in our great songs,
> including our ability to sing some old hymns with transparency and profound
> understanding.
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> Peace,
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> Jack
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> On Jun 4, 2017, at 09:48, zbarley via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
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> Interesting how world or earth make different meanings. What about the
> second storey? Heaven demythologized?
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> Zoe
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> -------- Original message --------
> From: Ellie Stock via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> Date: 06/04/2017 8:15 AM (GMT-07:00)
> To: jpc2025 at outlook.com, oe at lists.wedgeblade.net, karen.snyder10 at gmail.com
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> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Pentecost Blessings
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> or..."for Earth's Call'?
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: John C via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> To: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>; Order Ecumenical Community <
> oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> Sent: Sun, Jun 4, 2017 8:19 am
> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Pentecost Blessings
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> What about “for the Earth”?
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> *From: *OE <oe-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net> on behalf of Karen Snyder
> via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> *Reply-To: *Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical
> Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> *Date: *Sunday, June 4, 2017 at 9:18 AM
> *To: *"KarenBueno at aol.com" <karenbueno at aol.com>, Order Ecumenical
> Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> *Subject: *Re: [Oe List ...] Pentecost Blessings
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> Thank you Lynda, Randy and Karen. The power of corporate writing shines
> again!
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> Karen Snyder
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> On Jun 4, 2017, at 8:09 AM, Karenbueno via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
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> Revised for gender equity, and acknowledging other parts of creation:
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> PENECOST HYMN
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> Tune: There's New World Coming
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> Like the sound of heaven with the rushing of the wind
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> Came the fire a-burning and new life was given to all
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> The young see visions and the old dream dreams
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> Born of fire, filled with power, for the world.
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> To the light from darkness, and to freedom from fear
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> Building from the ashes into one community
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> Peter, Paul, and Luther, Augustine and Benedict
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> Born of fire, filled with power, for the world.
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> With despair abounding and a lack of hope around
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> Still the Spirit comes to the ones who birth the day
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> Giving breath and being to the ones who give their death
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> Born of fire, filled with power, for the world.
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> For the coming ages and the journey of mankind
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> We claim the promise that the fire give life to them
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> Deciding freely to live on behalf of all
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> Born of fire, filled with power, for the world.
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> (Karen Bueno)
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lynda C via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> To: OE List <OE at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> Sent: Sun, Jun 4, 2017 5:05 am
> Subject: [Oe List ...] Pentecost Blessings
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> This song was a powerful one for me, even with its old style gender.  I
> never did find a replaceable word that fit the meter and the meaning.  Wish
> I could hear some of our great voices and our not so great voices singing
> this on this Pentecost Sunday.  I recall how the harmony filled the room
> with its power.        Sing out wherever you are!     Lynda Cock
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> PENECOST HYMN
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> Tune: There's New World Coming
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> Like the sound of heaven with the rushing of the wind
>
> Came the fire a-burning and new life was given to men.
>
> The young see visions and the old dream dreams
>
> Born of fire, filled with power, for all men.
>
>
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> To the light from darkness, and to freedom from fear
>
> Building from the ashes into one community
>
> Peter, Paul, and Luther, Augustine and Benedict
>
> Born of fire, filled with power, for all men.
>
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> With despair abounding and a lack of hope around
>
> Still the Spirit comes to the ones who birth the day
>
> Giving breath and being to the ones who give their death
>
> Born of fire, filled with power, for all men.
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> For the coming ages and the journey of mankind
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> We claim the promise that the fire give life to them
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> Deciding freely to live on behalf of all
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> Born of fire, filled with power, for all men.
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