[Oe List ...] I heard it on the grapevine, Steve Ediger asked a compelling question yesterday

Mon Dec 14 09:58:02 PST 2015

We're got a paper copy of "Art As Living Form" by Langer.

On Dec 11, 2015, at 3:23 PM, Beret Griffith via OE wrote:

> Some more background naming conventions of conversation methods.
>
> The current best practice of ToP Network (TTN) trainers is to refer  
> to the Focused Conversation Method which has four levels, O.R.I.D.
>
> Winning Through Participation published in 1989 refers to The  
> Focused Conversation Method, with four levels Objective, Reflective,  
> Interpretive, Decisional.
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> Brian Stanfield's book, The Art of Focused Conversation, 100 Ways to  
> Access Group Wisdom in the Workplace, published in 2000, gives some  
> background and says, "The questions have changed slightly, but the  
> method remains the same. It is the art form method with a new name,  
> the Focused Conversation."  (from the Introduction).
>
> Documents from Golden Pathways:
> - From an old Spirit Methods Manual    https://wedgeblade.net/gold_path/data/meth/10041501.htm
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> - A document from summer 1972, CONVERSATION: RELATIONSHIPS/ 
> COMPARISONS https://wedgeblade.net/gold_path/data/hisj/100551.htm
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> - A talk: SPIRIT METHODS:Spirit, Gospels, and Psalm Conversations   https://wedgeblade.net/gold_path/data/meth/100439.htm 
>    by George West
>
> Eagerly awaiting for completion of "Getting to the Bottom of ToP"  
> for linking in the Chronological History.
>
> Beret
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> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 6:42 AM, Randy Williams via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net 
> > wrote:
> The art form has a lot of similarity to Dietrich Bonhoeffer's  
> process for making responsible decisions: observe, judge, weigh-up,  
> decide, act
> Randy
>
> Sent from my iPad
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>
> On Dec 11, 2015, at 12:03 AM, via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
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>> In the mid-80's, Gene Marshall published a binder with different  
>> conversation and workshop methods spelled out, for use by House  
>> Churches. Think I still have my copy in the garage.
>>
>> Jann McGuire
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sherwood Shankland via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> To: Ken Fisher <kenfisher1942 at gmail.com>
>> Cc: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>; ICA <ica-dialogue at igc.topica.com 
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>> Sent: Thu, Dec 10, 2015 7:04 pm
>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] I heard it on the grapevine, Steve  
>> Ediger asked a compelling question yesterday
>>
>> A few notes on "art-form" and ORID conversations...In the 60's and  
>> 70's the Ecumenical Institute and its faculty from the Faith and  
>> Life community at UT Austin, conducted conversation about the  
>> impact of works of art. Notably Picaso's Guernica - impressions of  
>> saturation bombing; and the film Requim for a Heavyweight staring  
>> Anthony Quinn as the washed up boxer who decides that even he can  
>> live his life... The focus of these two conversations was not to  
>> teach anything directly but rather to allow the participants of the  
>> RS-I (Religious Studies - I seminar) to experience their experience  
>> of the painting and the film. As pedegogs we were listening to the  
>> participants' responses for their theological views, which could  
>> guide us in guiding the following sessions of the 44 hour weekend  
>> course.
>>
>> I'm not sure when we formulated the ORID format - Marylin Olyer  
>> should know :-) but I associate ORID with our formalizing of  
>> facilitator skills training courses and the manuals for Group  
>> Facilitation Methods (now ToP Facilitation Methods) and  
>> Participatory Strategic Planning (now ToP Strategic Planning).  
>> Personally I think that the earlier titles / branding "GFM" and  
>> "PSP" are much more self-descriptive and clearer for marketing  
>> purposes. I suppose we could use both: "ToP - Group Facilitation  
>> Methods"; and "ToP - Participatory Strategic Planning".
>>
>> Happy Holidays to All.../ Sherwood (on the road facilitating  
>> workshop on agricultural development in Kazakhstan and  
>> Kyrgykstan...back home Dec 18th.)
>>
>>
>> From: "Ken Fisher via OE" <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> To: "Steve Harrington" <stevehar11201 at gmail.com>
>> Cc: "Order Ecumenical Community" <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>, "ICA" <ica-dialogue at igc.topica.com 
>> >
>> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2015 6:59:28 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] I heard it on the grapevine,         
>> Steve Ediger asked a compelling question yesterday
>>
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>> Me: “Where did the art form methodology come from?
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>> David McKlesky:  “Rudolf Bultman.  This is his method of scriptural  
>> grounding.”
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>> k
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>> On Dec 10, 2015, at 6:09 PM, steve har via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net 
>> > wrote:
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>> from the point of view of Imaginal Education and Imaginal Learning.
>>
>> As I heard it, he asked
>> Is there a difference between an Art Form Conversation and ORID  
>> question - and- someone just mentioned a "spirit question".
>>
>> What is the difference between an art form conversation, an ORID  
>> conversation, a spirit question?
>>
>> Jan Sanders, I know,  was recently asked by her teachers and  
>> principles at Aruba University why the conversation was called "art  
>> form" conversation.
>> It sent her looking back into Brian Stanfield's work and Susan  
>> Langer's cultural mythology and meaning making.
>>
>> Does someone have a generous answer?
>>
>> -- 
>> Steve Harrington
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