[Oe List ...] A good reflection on Romney

Wed Sep 19 05:06:57 PDT 2012

Amen

From: oe-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net
[mailto:oe-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of jlepps at pc.jaring.my
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 2:39 AM
To: Order Ecumenical Community
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] A good reflection on Romney

Hi Susan and Greetings from Malaysia.

A couple of points make me a bit wary about the articles your recommend.
1) In the first, Sowell stated that a study established... but he does not
name the author nor the source of the study. In the class I'm teaching, that
is unacceptable.
2) In the second article, he does cite a source: Milton Friedman, a Nobel
prize winning economist. One of his most notable statements from an article
in the NY Times Magazine was entitled "The Social Responsibility of Business
is to Make a Profit." Needless to say, that's no longer the accepted view
since businesses have far more stakeholders than their shareholders. 

Anyway I always appreciate hearing from you.

John

At 09:28 PM 9/18/2012, you wrote:

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A couple of interesting articles that may be useful to the discussion.

http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2012/09/11/an_economic_plan 

http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2012/09/12/depending_on_dependen
cy 

I have a serious intellectual crush on Thomas Sowell, and one on Congressman
Allen West too.  The video below will probably be offensive to many on this
listserv, fair warning.  

http://youtu.be/2CVK4c2qu3M

Here's a link with better quality and an article about it but the captioning
in the one above is helpful too.

http://wwwwnd.com/2011/02/266849/ <http://www.wnd.com/2011/02/266849/> 

Susan

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<mailto:oe-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net> ] On Behalf Of Herman Greene
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 8:02 PM
To: 'Order Ecumenical Community'
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] A good reflection on Romney

We have had these "tiffs" before and, if I remember correctly, some also
involved Susan. We survived and maybe we learned something.

We should always show respect for one another, but I wouldn't suggest any
"rule change" yet. From my standpoint, there's nothing wrong with lively
exchanges unless they get chronically out of hand.

Herman

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<mailto:oe-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net>  On Behalf Of David M Dunn
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 7:50 PM
To: Order Ecumenical Community
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] A good reflection on Romney

On Sep 18, 2012, at 4:56 PM, "Herman Greene" <hfgreene at mindspring.com >
wrote:

I'm sorry, I want to distance myself from this message. What Susan said to
me didn't bother me.

I think I agree with others that this is not the place to carry on a
political debate, but it is a place to dialogue. I would be happy to hear
Susan's thoughts if she wants to share them.

This passionate little maelstrom that we just fell into is one of the
reasons that the 'listserv' technology doesn't serve us as well as the
quality of our dialogue requires.

The kind of careful and thoughtful clarification of perspectives and search
for one another's truth requires something closer to face to face
communication (like an online meeting) or at the least, an online shared
dialogue space (like a 'wiki' that provides for a stream of comments) where
we can see contributions appear in real time and all of the preceding
contributions. (Facebook comments are the example of the running stream, but
not the example of a safe, private space for collegial dialogue.)

It would be fascinating and illuminating to see of we could discover the
images of fact and value (recalling Boulding) that lie behind the different
perceptions expressed here about the meaning of this moment in history.

David

David Dunn
740 S Alton Way 9B
Denver, CO 80247
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