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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Amen<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>jlepps@pc.jaring.my<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 19, 2012 2:39 AM<br><b>To:</b> Order Ecumenical Community<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Oe List ...] A good reflection on Romney<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Susan and Greetings from Malaysia.<br><br>A couple of points make me a bit wary about the articles your recommend.<br>1) In the first, Sowell stated that a study established... but he does not name the author nor the source of the study. In the class I'm teaching, that is unacceptable.<br>2) In the second article, he does cite a source: Milton Friedman, a Nobel prize winning economist. One of his most notable statements from an article in the NY Times Magazine was entitled "The Social Responsibility of Business is to Make a Profit." Needless to say, that's no longer the accepted view since businesses have far more stakeholders than their shareholders. <br><br>Anyway I always appreciate hearing from you.<br><br>John<br><br>At 09:28 PM 9/18/2012, you wrote:<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Content-Type: multipart/alternative;<br> boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0238_01CD95F5.54906DD0"<br>Content-Language: en-us<br><br>A couple of interesting articles that may be useful to the discussion.<br> <br><a href="http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2012/09/11/an_economic_plan">http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2012/09/11/an_economic_plan</a> <br> <br><a href="http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2012/09/12/depending_on_dependency">http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2012/09/12/depending_on_dependency</a> <br> <br>I have a serious intellectual crush on Thomas Sowell, and one on Congressman Allen West too. The video below will probably be offensive to many on this listserv, fair warning. <br> <br><a href="http://youtu.be/2CVK4c2qu3M">http://youtu.be/2CVK4c2qu3M</a><br> <br>Here's a link with better quality and an article about it but the captioning in the one above is helpful too.<br> <br><a href="http://www.wnd.com/2011/02/266849/">http://wwwwnd.com/2011/02/266849/</a><br> <br><b>Susan<br></b> <br><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net</a> [<a href="mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net"> mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Herman Greene<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 18, 2012 8:02 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Order Ecumenical Community'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Oe List ...] A good reflection on Romney<br> <br>We have had these “tiffs” before and, if I remember correctly, some also involved Susan. We survived and maybe we learned something.<br> <br>We should always show respect for one another, but I wouldn’t suggest any “rule change” yet. From my standpoint, there’s nothing wrong with lively exchanges unless they get chronically out of hand.<br> <br>Herman<br> <o:p></o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=3 width="100%" align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net</a> <a href="mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net">[</a> <a href="mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net">mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net</a><a href="mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net"> ]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>David M Dunn<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 18, 2012 7:50 PM<br><b>To:</b> Order Ecumenical Community<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Oe List ...] A good reflection on Romney<br> <br>On Sep 18, 2012, at 4:56 PM, "Herman Greene" <<a href="mailto:hfgreene@mindspring.com">hfgreene@mindspring.com</a> > wrote:<br> <br>I’m sorry, I want to distance myself from this message. What Susan said to me didn’t bother me.<br> <br>I think I agree with others that this is not the place to carry on a political debate, but it is a place to dialogue. I would be happy to hear Susan’s thoughts if she wants to share them.<br> <br> <br>This passionate little maelstrom that we just fell into is one of the reasons that the 'listserv' technology doesn't serve us as well as the quality of our dialogue requires.<br> <br>The kind of careful and thoughtful clarification of perspectives and search for one another's truth requires something closer to face to face communication (like an online meeting) or at the least, an online shared dialogue space (like a 'wiki' that provides for a stream of comments) where we can see contributions appear in real time and all of the preceding contributions. (Facebook comments are the example of the running stream, but not the example of a safe, private space for collegial dialogue.)<br> <br>It would be fascinating and illuminating to see of we could discover the images of fact and value (recalling Boulding) that lie behind the different perceptions expressed here about the meaning of this moment in history.<br> <br>David<br> <br> <br>David Dunn<br>740 S Alton Way 9B<br>Denver, CO 80247<br>--<br><a href="mailto:dmdunn1@gmail.com">dmdunn1@gmail.com</a><br>720-314-5991<br><br> <br>_______________________________________________<br>OE mailing list<br><a href="mailto:OE@lists.wedgeblade.net">OE@lists.wedgeblade.net</a><br><a href="http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net">http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net</a> <o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>