Re: [Oe List ...] Being Black in the Order Ecumenical
Thank you, Marilyn. I was horrified this morning to find myself thinking, "What about a discussion on being a woman in the Order? A child? It was the best of times. It was the worst of times. Love and blessings, Jann In a message dated 6/4/2012 3:57:54 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, h-wainwright@charter.net writes: Marilyn Crocker thank you for putting into words my Uneasiness. Blessing for you and Joe. Harry Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID -----Original message----- From: marilyncrocker@juno.com To: oe@lists.wedgeblade.net Sent: Mon, Jun 4, 2012 18:05:41 EDT Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Being Black in the Order Ecumenical _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
We had a one year discussion of being a child in the order and the discussion is ongoing. Here's my problem. I am sharing about people I dearly love, people who changed my life. And believe me their blackness was not incidental to me or to them. No one is suggesting a series of these conversations, but if anyone wants to shift to women or Indians (North Ameican or Indian), I don't have a problem with that. Herman Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: LAURELCG@aol.com Sender: oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 19:08:23 To: <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> Reply-To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Being Black in the Order Ecumenical _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
So Far, we have hit the objective level (naming Black Order Colleagues) with some 1 person reflections or reminincing about an individual our two. Naming "women" or "children" of the Order feels like a different animal, ballgame, kettle of fish. Lists won't convey much to me. Although I do remember enjoying saying Yes to the question: Did you grow up in the Order? My fuller answer was "Yes, but I was 20 when I joined." Grace, Peace, LIGHT, mary On Jun 4, 2012, at 6:08 PM, LAURELCG@aol.com wrote:
Thank you, Marilyn. I was horrified this morning to find myself thinking, "What about a discussion on being a woman in the Order? A child?
It was the best of times. It was the worst of times.
Love and blessings, Jann
In a message dated 6/4/2012 3:57:54 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, h-wainwright@charter.net writes: Marilyn Crocker thank you for putting into words my Uneasiness. Blessing for you and Joe. Harry
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Not for me. These names evoke multiple levels of awareness and consciousness for me. They are sacred. Herman _____ From: oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of Mary Hampton Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 9:27 PM To: Order Ecumenical Community Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Being Black in the Order Ecumenical So Far, we have hit the objective level (naming Black Order Colleagues) with some 1 person reflections or reminincing about an individual our two. Naming "women" or "children" of the Order feels like a different animal, ballgame, kettle of fish. Lists won't convey much to me. Although I do remember enjoying saying Yes to the question: Did you grow up in the Order? My fuller answer was "Yes, but I was 20 when I joined." Grace, Peace, LIGHT, mary On Jun 4, 2012, at 6:08 PM, LAURELCG@aol.com wrote: Thank you, Marilyn. I was horrified this morning to find myself thinking, "What about a discussion on being a woman in the Order? A child? It was the best of times. It was the worst of times. Love and blessings, Jann In a message dated 6/4/2012 3:57:54 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, h-wainwright@charter.net writes: Marilyn Crocker thank you for putting into words my Uneasiness. Blessing for you and Joe. Harry Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID -----Original message----- From: marilyncrocker@juno.com To: oe@lists.wedgeblade.net Sent: Mon, Jun 4, 2012 18:05:41 EDT Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Being Black in the Order Ecumenical _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
I think it's not easy (esp by email) to convey the mystery of the memory of certain individuals and the way they moved into and through our lives. I know when this thread began, I felt a tug of concern for naming names but then felt a rush of gratitude to say and write names and read others' stories. So, here's to remembering the way some people gave of their lives for a short or long time, and for the renewal that happened in the process, or didn't. Diann From: Herman Greene <hfgreene@mindspring.com<mailto:hfgreene@mindspring.com>> Reply-To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net<mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net>> To: 'Order Ecumenical Community' <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net<mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Being Black in the Order Ecumenical Not for me. These names evoke multiple levels of awareness and consciousness for me. They are sacred. Herman ________________________________ From: oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net<mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net> [mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of Mary Hampton Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 9:27 PM To: Order Ecumenical Community Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Being Black in the Order Ecumenical So Far, we have hit the objective level (naming Black Order Colleagues) with some 1 person reflections or reminincing about an individual our two. Naming "women" or "children" of the Order feels like a different animal, ballgame, kettle of fish. Lists won't convey much to me. Although I do remember enjoying saying Yes to the question: Did you grow up in the Order? My fuller answer was "Yes, but I was 20 when I joined." Grace, Peace, LIGHT, mary On Jun 4, 2012, at 6:08 PM, LAURELCG@aol.com<mailto:LAURELCG@aol.com> wrote: Thank you, Marilyn. I was horrified this morning to find myself thinking, "What about a discussion on being a woman in the Order? A child? It was the best of times. It was the worst of times. Love and blessings, Jann In a message dated 6/4/2012 3:57:54 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, h-wainwright@charter.net<mailto:h-wainwright@charter.net> writes: Marilyn Crocker thank you for putting into words my Uneasiness. Blessing for you and Joe. Harry Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID -----Original message----- From: marilyncrocker@juno.com<mailto:marilyncrocker@juno.com> To: oe@lists.wedgeblade.net<mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> Sent: Mon, Jun 4, 2012 18:05:41 EDT Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Being Black in the Order Ecumenical _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE@lists.wedgeblade.net<mailto:OE@lists.wedgeblade.net> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE@lists.wedgeblade.net<mailto:OE@lists.wedgeblade.net> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
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