https://www.lifecoachcode.com/2016/09/28/maslow-hierarchy-of-needs-secret-la... Seems like only recently have I and others have cime to value Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. This model which includes transcendence, appears to describe how we, the social pioneers, we're drawn out to that point of the no longer and the not yet. And so did he, but never published it. Transcendence as a basic need sure correlates with my life's journey. Happy New Year of the joyous Pig - coming up soon and already begun in some places.
HMM, I WONDER IF Abraham and Rudolph ever talked . . . Itis God who makes man finite, and who makes a comedy of man's care, who allowshis longing to miscarry, who casts him into solitude, who sets a terminus tohis knowing and doing, who calls him to duty, and who gives the guilty over totorment. And yet at the same time it is God who forces man into life and driveshim into care; who puts longing and the desire to love in his heart; who giveshim thoughts and strength for his work, and who places him in the eternal strugglebetween self-assertion and duty. God is the enigmatic power beyond time, yetmaster of the temporal: beyond being, yet working in it. Jim Wiegel “That which consumes me is not man, nor the earth, nor the heavens, but the flame which consumes man, earth, and sky." Nikos Kazantzakis 401 North Beverly Way,Tolleson, Arizona 85353 623-363-3277 jfwiegel@yahoo.com www.partnersinparticipation.com On Friday, January 18, 2019, 7:39:39 AM MST, Judi White via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: https://www.lifecoachcode.com/2016/09/28/maslow-hierarchy-of-needs-secret-la... Seems like only recently have I and others have cime to value Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. This model which includes transcendence, appears to describe how we, the social pioneers, we're drawn out to that point of the no longer and the not yet. And so did he, but never published it. Transcendence as a basic need sure correlates with my life's journey. Happy New Year of the joyous Pig - coming up soon and already begun in some places. _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
I'm sure that if they were sitting together today, it would be a lively synthesis and perhaps a great "aha" would emerge! On Fri, Jan 18, 2019, 9:51 AM James Wiegel <jfwiegel@yahoo.com wrote:
*HMM, I WONDER IF Abraham and Rudolph ever talked . . .*
*It is God who makes man finite, and who makes a comedy of man's care, who allows his longing to miscarry, who casts him into solitude, who sets a terminus to his knowing and doing, who calls him to duty, and who gives the guilty over to torment. And yet at the same time it is God who forces man into life and drives him into care; who puts longing and the desire to love in his heart; who gives him thoughts and strength for his work, and who places him in the eternal struggle between self-assertion and duty. God is the enigmatic power beyond time, yet master of the temporal: beyond being, yet working in it.*
Jim Wiegel <http://partnersinparticipation.com/?page_id=123>
“That which consumes me is not man, nor the earth, nor the heavens, but the flame which consumes man, earth, and sky." Nikos Kazantzakis
401 North Beverly Way,Tolleson, Arizona 85353
623-363-3277
jfwiegel@yahoo.com <marilyn.oyler@gmail.com>
www.partnersinparticipation.com
On Friday, January 18, 2019, 7:39:39 AM MST, Judi White via OE < oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
https://www.lifecoachcode.com/2016/09/28/maslow-hierarchy-of-needs-secret-la...
Seems like only recently have I and others have cime to value Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. This model which includes transcendence, appears to describe how we, the social pioneers, we're drawn out to that point of the no longer and the not yet. And so did he, but never published it. Transcendence as a basic need sure correlates with my life's journey. Happy New Year of the joyous Pig - coming up soon and already begun in some places. _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
They would probably agonize some over the pronouns, etc. Jim Wiegel 401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353 Tel. 011-623-936-8671 or 011-623-363-3277 jfwiegel@yahoo.com www.partnersinparticipation.com When a great ship is in harbor and moored, it is safe, there can be no doubt. "But that is not what great ships are built for." Clarissa Pinkola Estes
On Jan 18, 2019, at 09:21, Judi White <sophiacircle@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm sure that if they were sitting together today, it would be a lively synthesis and perhaps a great "aha" would emerge!
On Fri, Jan 18, 2019, 9:51 AM James Wiegel <jfwiegel@yahoo.com wrote: HMM, I WONDER IF Abraham and Rudolph ever talked . . .
It is God who makes man finite, and who makes a comedy of man's care, who allows his longing to miscarry, who casts him into solitude, who sets a terminus to his knowing and doing, who calls him to duty, and who gives the guilty over to torment. And yet at the same time it is God who forces man into life and drives him into care; who puts longing and the desire to love in his heart; who gives him thoughts and strength for his work, and who places him in the eternal struggle between self-assertion and duty. God is the enigmatic power beyond time, yet master of the temporal: beyond being, yet working in it.
Jim Wiegel “That which consumes me is not man, nor the earth, nor the heavens, but the flame which consumes man, earth, and sky." Nikos Kazantzakis
401 North Beverly Way,Tolleson, Arizona 85353 623-363-3277 jfwiegel@yahoo.com www.partnersinparticipation.com
On Friday, January 18, 2019, 7:39:39 AM MST, Judi White via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
https://www.lifecoachcode.com/2016/09/28/maslow-hierarchy-of-needs-secret-la...
Seems like only recently have I and others have cime to value Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. This model which includes transcendence, appears to describe how we, the social pioneers, we're drawn out to that point of the no longer and the not yet. And so did he, but never published it. Transcendence as a basic need sure correlates with my life's journey. Happy New Year of the joyous Pig - coming up soon and already begun in some places. _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
O for heaven's sake. That's Maslow not Ma's low. Just posted, as a retired counselor/therapist, a tiny discovery that another psychologist beside Assagioli had acknowledged the value of spirituality in a human's health and well being. I'm sure Rudolph' s super mundane reality would appreciate the collegiality of another perspective in a different field. Both seemed to be able to transcend ego. On Fri, Jan 18, 2019, 2:10 PM James Wiegel <jfwiegel@yahoo.com wrote:
They would probably agonize some over the pronouns, etc.
Jim Wiegel 401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353 Tel. 011-623-936-8671 or 011-623-363-3277 jfwiegel@yahoo.com <marilyn.oyler@gmail.com> www.partnersinparticipation.com
When a great ship is in harbor and moored, it is safe, there can be no doubt. "But that is not what great ships are built for." Clarissa Pinkola Estes
On Jan 18, 2019, at 09:21, Judi White <sophiacircle@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm sure that if they were sitting together today, it would be a lively synthesis and perhaps a great "aha" would emerge!
On Fri, Jan 18, 2019, 9:51 AM James Wiegel <jfwiegel@yahoo.com wrote:
*HMM, I WONDER IF Abraham and Rudolph ever talked . . .*
*It is God who makes man finite, and who makes a comedy of man's care, who allows his longing to miscarry, who casts him into solitude, who sets a terminus to his knowing and doing, who calls him to duty, and who gives the guilty over to torment. And yet at the same time it is God who forces man into life and drives him into care; who puts longing and the desire to love in his heart; who gives him thoughts and strength for his work, and who places him in the eternal struggle between self-assertion and duty. God is the enigmatic power beyond time, yet master of the temporal: beyond being, yet working in it.*
Jim Wiegel <http://partnersinparticipation.com/?page_id=123>
“That which consumes me is not man, nor the earth, nor the heavens, but the flame which consumes man, earth, and sky." Nikos Kazantzakis
401 North Beverly Way,Tolleson, Arizona 85353
623-363-3277
jfwiegel@yahoo.com <marilyn.oyler@gmail.com>
www.partnersinparticipation.com
On Friday, January 18, 2019, 7:39:39 AM MST, Judi White via OE < oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
https://www.lifecoachcode.com/2016/09/28/maslow-hierarchy-of-needs-secret-la...
Seems like only recently have I and others have cime to value Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. This model which includes transcendence, appears to describe how we, the social pioneers, we're drawn out to that point of the no longer and the not yet. And so did he, but never published it. Transcendence as a basic need sure correlates with my life's journey. Happy New Year of the joyous Pig - coming up soon and already begun in some places. _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
I like Ma's low better! Have always felt that Bultmann's paragraphs mirror Ma's low-- every day care for the morrow physical needs/safetydesire for love belongingthirst for knowledge / impulse to action and work self esteem, self actualizationidea of duty -- you can for you ought self transcendence Jim Wiegel “That which consumes me is not man, nor the earth, nor the heavens, but the flame which consumes man, earth, and sky." Nikos Kazantzakis 401 North Beverly Way,Tolleson, Arizona 85353 623-363-3277 jfwiegel@yahoo.com www.partnersinparticipation.com On Saturday, January 19, 2019, 7:03:03 AM MST, Judi White <sophiacircle@gmail.com> wrote: O for heaven's sake. That's Maslow not Ma's low. Just posted, as a retired counselor/therapist, a tiny discovery that another psychologist beside Assagioli had acknowledged the value of spirituality in a human's health and well being. I'm sure Rudolph' s super mundane reality would appreciate the collegiality of another perspective in a different field. Both seemed to be able to transcend ego. On Fri, Jan 18, 2019, 2:10 PM James Wiegel <jfwiegel@yahoo.com wrote: They would probably agonize some over the pronouns, etc. Jim Wiegel401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353Tel. 011-623-936-8671 or 011-623-363-3277jfwiegel@yahoo.comwww.partnersinparticipation.com When a great ship is in harbor and moored, it is safe, there can be no doubt. "But that is not what great ships are built for." Clarissa Pinkola Estes On Jan 18, 2019, at 09:21, Judi White <sophiacircle@gmail.com> wrote: I'm sure that if they were sitting together today, it would be a lively synthesis and perhaps a great "aha" would emerge! On Fri, Jan 18, 2019, 9:51 AM James Wiegel <jfwiegel@yahoo.com wrote: HMM, I WONDER IF Abraham and Rudolph ever talked . . . Itis God who makes man finite, and who makes a comedy of man's care, who allowshis longing to miscarry, who casts him into solitude, who sets a terminus tohis knowing and doing, who calls him to duty, and who gives the guilty over totorment. And yet at the same time it is God who forces man into life and driveshim into care; who puts longing and the desire to love in his heart; who giveshim thoughts and strength for his work, and who places him in the eternal strugglebetween self-assertion and duty. God is the enigmatic power beyond time, yetmaster of the temporal: beyond being, yet working in it. Jim Wiegel “That which consumes me is not man, nor the earth, nor the heavens, but the flame which consumes man, earth, and sky." Nikos Kazantzakis 401 North Beverly Way,Tolleson, Arizona 85353 623-363-3277 jfwiegel@yahoo.com www.partnersinparticipation.com On Friday, January 18, 2019, 7:39:39 AM MST, Judi White via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: https://www.lifecoachcode.com/2016/09/28/maslow-hierarchy-of-needs-secret-la... Seems like only recently have I and others have cime to value Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. This model which includes transcendence, appears to describe how we, the social pioneers, we're drawn out to that point of the no longer and the not yet. And so did he, but never published it. Transcendence as a basic need sure correlates with my life's journey. Happy New Year of the joyous Pig - coming up soon and already begun in some places. _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
You are so right. On Sat, Jan 19, 2019, 4:23 PM James Wiegel <jfwiegel@yahoo.com wrote:
I like Ma's low better! Have always felt that Bultmann's paragraphs mirror Ma's low-- every day care for the morrow physical needs/safety desire for love belonging thirst for knowledge / impulse to action and work self esteem, self actualization idea of duty -- you can for you ought self transcendence
Jim Wiegel <http://partnersinparticipation.com/?page_id=123>
“That which consumes me is not man, nor the earth, nor the heavens, but the flame which consumes man, earth, and sky." Nikos Kazantzakis
401 North Beverly Way,Tolleson, Arizona 85353
623-363-3277
jfwiegel@yahoo.com <marilyn.oyler@gmail.com>
www.partnersinparticipation.com
On Saturday, January 19, 2019, 7:03:03 AM MST, Judi White < sophiacircle@gmail.com> wrote:
O for heaven's sake. That's Maslow not Ma's low. Just posted, as a retired counselor/therapist, a tiny discovery that another psychologist beside Assagioli had acknowledged the value of spirituality in a human's health and well being. I'm sure Rudolph' s super mundane reality would appreciate the collegiality of another perspective in a different field. Both seemed to be able to transcend ego.
On Fri, Jan 18, 2019, 2:10 PM James Wiegel <jfwiegel@yahoo.com wrote:
They would probably agonize some over the pronouns, etc.
Jim Wiegel 401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353 Tel. 011-623-936-8671 or 011-623-363-3277 jfwiegel@yahoo.com <marilyn.oyler@gmail.com> www.partnersinparticipation.com
When a great ship is in harbor and moored, it is safe, there can be no doubt. "But that is not what great ships are built for." Clarissa Pinkola Estes
On Jan 18, 2019, at 09:21, Judi White <sophiacircle@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm sure that if they were sitting together today, it would be a lively synthesis and perhaps a great "aha" would emerge!
On Fri, Jan 18, 2019, 9:51 AM James Wiegel <jfwiegel@yahoo.com wrote:
*HMM, I WONDER IF Abraham and Rudolph ever talked . . .*
*It is God who makes man finite, and who makes a comedy of man's care, who allows his longing to miscarry, who casts him into solitude, who sets a terminus to his knowing and doing, who calls him to duty, and who gives the guilty over to torment. And yet at the same time it is God who forces man into life and drives him into care; who puts longing and the desire to love in his heart; who gives him thoughts and strength for his work, and who places him in the eternal struggle between self-assertion and duty. God is the enigmatic power beyond time, yet master of the temporal: beyond being, yet working in it.*
Jim Wiegel <http://partnersinparticipation.com/?page_id=123>
“That which consumes me is not man, nor the earth, nor the heavens, but the flame which consumes man, earth, and sky." Nikos Kazantzakis
401 North Beverly Way,Tolleson, Arizona 85353
623-363-3277
jfwiegel@yahoo.com <marilyn.oyler@gmail.com>
www.partnersinparticipation.com
On Friday, January 18, 2019, 7:39:39 AM MST, Judi White via OE < oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
https://www.lifecoachcode.com/2016/09/28/maslow-hierarchy-of-needs-secret-la...
Seems like only recently have I and others have cime to value Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. This model which includes transcendence, appears to describe how we, the social pioneers, we're drawn out to that point of the no longer and the not yet. And so did he, but never published it. Transcendence as a basic need sure correlates with my life's journey. Happy New Year of the joyous Pig - coming up soon and already begun in some places. _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
Well put, Jim Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 18, 2019, at 8:51 AM, James Wiegel via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
HMM, I WONDER IF Abraham and Rudolph ever talked . . .
It is God who makes man finite, and who makes a comedy of man's care, who allows his longing to miscarry, who casts him into solitude, who sets a terminus to his knowing and doing, who calls him to duty, and who gives the guilty over to torment. And yet at the same time it is God who forces man into life and drives him into care; who puts longing and the desire to love in his heart; who gives him thoughts and strength for his work, and who places him in the eternal struggle between self-assertion and duty. God is the enigmatic power beyond time, yet master of the temporal: beyond being, yet working in it.
Jim Wiegel “That which consumes me is not man, nor the earth, nor the heavens, but the flame which consumes man, earth, and sky." Nikos Kazantzakis
401 North Beverly Way,Tolleson, Arizona 85353 623-363-3277 jfwiegel@yahoo.com www.partnersinparticipation.com
On Friday, January 18, 2019, 7:39:39 AM MST, Judi White via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
https://www.lifecoachcode.com/2016/09/28/maslow-hierarchy-of-needs-secret-la...
Seems like only recently have I and others have cime to value Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. This model which includes transcendence, appears to describe how we, the social pioneers, we're drawn out to that point of the no longer and the not yet. And so did he, but never published it. Transcendence as a basic need sure correlates with my life's journey. Happy New Year of the joyous Pig - coming up soon and already begun in some places. _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
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