You are so right. 

On Sat, Jan 19, 2019, 4:23 PM James Wiegel <jfwiegel@yahoo.com wrote:
I like Ma's low better!  
Have always felt that 
Bultmann's paragraphs               mirror                Ma's low-- 
every day care for the morrow                        physical needs/safety
desire for love                                                  belonging
thirst for knowledge / impulse to action and work      self esteem, self actualization
idea of duty -- you can for you ought                  self transcendence

Jim Wiegel  

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On Saturday, January 19, 2019, 7:03:03 AM MST, Judi White <sophiacircle@gmail.com> wrote:


O for heaven's sake. That's Maslow not Ma's low. Just posted, as a retired counselor/therapist, a tiny discovery that another psychologist beside Assagioli had acknowledged the value of spirituality in a human's health and well being. I'm sure Rudolph' s super mundane reality would appreciate the collegiality of another perspective in a different field. Both seemed to be able to transcend ego. 

On Fri, Jan 18, 2019, 2:10 PM James Wiegel <jfwiegel@yahoo.com wrote:
They would probably agonize some over the pronouns, etc.

Jim Wiegel

When a great ship is in harbor and moored, it is safe, there can be no doubt.  "But that is not what great ships are built for."   Clarissa Pinkola Estes

On Jan 18, 2019, at 09:21, Judi White <sophiacircle@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm sure that if they were sitting together today, it would be a lively synthesis and perhaps a great "aha" would emerge! 

On Fri, Jan 18, 2019, 9:51 AM James Wiegel <jfwiegel@yahoo.com wrote:
HMM, I WONDER IF Abraham and Rudolph ever talked . . .

It is God who makes man finite, and who makes a comedy of man's care, who allows his longing to miscarry, who casts him into solitude, who sets a terminus to his knowing and doing, who calls him to duty, and who gives the guilty over to torment. And yet at the same time it is God who forces man into life and drives him into care; who puts longing and the desire to love in his heart; who gives him thoughts and strength for his work, and who places him in the eternal struggle be­tween self-assertion and duty. God is the enigmatic power beyond time, yet master of the temporal: beyond being, yet working in it.


Jim Wiegel  

“That which consumes me is not man, nor the earth, nor the heavens, but the flame which consumes man, earth, and sky."  Nikos Kazantzakis


401 North Beverly Way,Tolleson, Arizona 85353

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jfwiegel@yahoo.com

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On Friday, January 18, 2019, 7:39:39 AM MST, Judi White via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:


https://www.lifecoachcode.com/2016/09/28/maslow-hierarchy-of-needs-secret-layer/

Seems like only recently have I and others have cime to value Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. This model which includes transcendence, appears to describe how we, the social pioneers, we're drawn out to that point of the no longer and the not yet. And so did he, but never published it. Transcendence as a basic need sure correlates with my life's journey. Happy New Year of the joyous Pig  - coming up soon and already begun in some places. 
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