I really think you need to see the documentary. As we know Art Forms are more than their pieces. It’s a bit like a hear-say conversation about Guenica without ever having seen it, or a discussion of RS-I among those who’ve never taken it. It has information that climate deniers and conservationists, alike, don’t talk about. Not just cow poop, but what’s happening to the fish in the ocean, the acidity of our oceans, destruction of rain forests, the pollution of our seas and rivers, the whole nine yards of what’s happening on the planet. You may also be interested in Dr. Jeffery Sach’s (the director of Earth Institute at Columbia University) remarks on Fareed Zecharia’s CNN program, April 19, 2015, where he points out, using the UN report, that 2015 is our last chance to act on Climate Change. I would like to see us have a conversation about this and what we can do as a group. BTW, Jaime would like to see the film. If anyone has a way to stream the film to him let him know. I don’t at the moment. Our library is getting the film in in a couple of weeks, and I’m looking around to see how streaming would work. George Holcombe 14900 Yellowleaf Tr. Austin, TX 78728 Mobile 512/252-2756 geowanda1@me.com "Whatever the problem, community is the answer. There is no power greater than a community discovering what it cares about." Margaret Wheatley

On Apr 27, 2015, at 3:09 AM, Tracy Longacre via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:

I'm pretty sure those stats only apply to Feedlot beef.

— Terran E. Longacre Sent from one of my iThingies

On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 11:23 PM, Randy Williams via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net>> wrote:

Agriculture in general, which is what most of our water is used for, but especially cattle, the greatest producers of methane, which is considerably more harmful than CO2. Interesting stat--it takes 16 lbs of grain to produce 1 lb of beef, and 12,000 gals of water to grow 16 lbs of grain. Randy

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On Apr 26, 2015, at 6:15 PM, Karenbueno via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net>> wrote:

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Give us a little clue, George. What industry are they talking about?

Karen Bueno

-----Original Message----- From: George Holcombe via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net>> To: ICA/OE List Serves <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net>> Sent: Sat, Apr 25, 2015 9:16 am Subject: [Dialogue] Saw Cowspiracy last night

Wanda and I got to see Cowspiracy last night at our local library. I would highly recommend the film, especially if you are interested in conservation, global warming, climate change and saving the planet. I wonder if others among us have seen it? You can look at it at Cowspiracy.com <http://cowspiracy.com/>.

George Holcombe 14900 Yellowleaf Tr. Austin, TX 78728 Mobile 512/252-2756 geowanda1@me.com <mailto:geowanda1@me.com>

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