Thank you, Steve for this juicy discussion. I can say amen to all responses. In planning a lesson as an imaginal educator, I focus on the learner and how his or her external and interior context can be expanded and deepened. How can imagination and critical thinking be stimulated and encouraged? How can I beckon participation? If this impact on the learner is the focus of my lesson, the content of the lesson is perhaps the microscope or telescope I use. It's an art to use such a palette, and lessons rarely go as I envision. It's a journey that impacts my own image of the world as much as the "learners." Blessings, Jann McGuire -----Original Message----- From: Randy Williams via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> To: Jack Gilles <jackcgilles@gmail.com> Cc: Dialogue <Dialogue@wedgeblade.net>; Tim Dove <DovePHX@gmail.com>; OE <OE@wedgeblade.net>; Burna Dunn <bldunn1@gmail.com>; oslotta <oslotta@earthlink.com> Sent: Sun, Dec 7, 2014 9:26 am Subject: Re: [Dialogue] [Oe List ...] Fwd: Question about Imaginal Education these days I sense that the focus in structured institutional education is shifting from the teacher/educator to the student/learner. In that context I like the term "transformational learning" more than "imaginal education." Would love to see what Tim Dove has said. Randy On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Jack Gilles <jackcgilles@gmail.com> wrote: Dear All, I think Jeanette has done the best job of answering the question of a definition. But we have to understand that “we” have a long history of this definition and tend to assume that others grasp the profound depth behind it, and I don’t think they do. For instance, although the term ORID is based on a natural flow of consciousness, to utilize it effectively requires a depth understanding of I.E. and that in and by itself is not Imaginal Education (as we define the term). The same for Project Work, Strategic Planning and other methods we have honed and championed. It could be said that all “education” is “Imaginal”, that is, it is based on a set of images and assumptions that are then communicated in a method called Education. And it is more than just being “conscious” about the process. Those who want to teach about American Exceptional-ism are very clear that they want certain “images” to be communicated and to take root. Thus you have a spectrum of Imaginal Education from outright designed propaganda to unconscious and unquestioned “Images” that are the basis of what is being communicated. So the issue of I.E. is the life stance and understanding that is underneath the process. To use our language, the “Word” is absolutely essential for the process. That reality is worthy of a long” discourse, but to be an effective Imaginal Educator it needs to be understood at the heart of the creative effort. For people’s information, Mark Dove’s son, Tim, has done a fantastic job of just that, without ever mentioning any of our historic language. So, having a profound and self-conscious understanding of humanness is essential for effective Imaginal Education as we have framed it. Good discussion (dialogue)! Jack P.S. I’ve added Tim Dove’s name to the list so that he can see how this discussion is going and can respond if he so desires. He is the best example of anyone I know who has built a whole-system understanding of education based on Imaginal Education. On Dec 7, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Jeanette Stanfield via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: For me, imaginal education is an art. It is the discernment of images that are blocking a person, a group, a community, or society from moving positively into the future. Once discerned, messages are powerfully and creatively put into the learning environment through questions, stories, art forms, projects, activities,models etc to release the negative images and allow new images to emerge and thus new decisions and behaviours. Thank you Steve and Loren for inviting this conversation. Jeanette On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Randy Williams via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: I would say that the goal of imaginal education is to change behavior. Our outmoded, out of date stories of reality (images) are at the root of all our problems. Example of an outmoded story--we can have unlimited economic growth on a finite planet--the story underlying climate change, global warming, and all the associated symptoms. Randy Sent from my iPad On Dec 7, 2014, at 9:09 AM, Karenbueno via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: Imaginal Education acknowledges that images affect behavior and that images can change. The goal of the Imaginal Educator is to change images by using a variety of teaching methods, one of which is the structured conversation model, called ORID. The goal of Imaginal Educators trained by the ICA has been to change a victim image to an image of one's individual power to affect one's life and the world. from Karen Bueno -----Original Message----- From: steve har via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> To: Order Ecumenical ICA-USA <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net>; oe <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net>; Tatwa P. Timsina <tatwa@ica-nepal.org> Sent: Sun, Dec 7, 2014 7:32 am Subject: [Dialogue] Question about Imaginal Education 9these days In Nepal and India Nelson Stover and Loren Weybright are collaborating on two schools one in Nepal and one in Chikhale school in Maharastra. Loren is onsite in Nepal for 3 months doing Action Plan projects with the staff & teachers and curriculum design and coaching with individual teachers. In January they both will be in Maharastra at the Chickhale school for a 2 day professional development. Here is a question that needs an answer: Just what is Imaginal Education, Now and how do you practice it? Nelson asked this question and they are looking for a variety of (simple) responses. Can you share a sentence on Imaginal Education rom your experience, short, simple? -- Steve Harrington PS if you want you can track developments in Nepal and Chikhale by signing up at the Imaginal Education Collection upper right hand corner here: https://wedgeblade.net/wordpress/imaginaleducation/blog/ _______________________________________________ Dialogue mailing list Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net _______________________________________________ Dialogue mailing list Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net _______________________________________________ Dialogue mailing list Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net