Hi Bud, When we were in the pastoral ministry, we used Brian's older book and the accompanying video for adult ed and leadership training. Marcus Borg and Dominic Crossan have a lot of books and video series related to Jesus, Paul and Roman Empire. We journeyed with them in 2003 through Turkey, with many bus lectures on this topic. Ellie elliestock@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: H. A. Tillinghast <rev.bud@mac.com> To: Ellie Stock <elliestock@aol.com> Cc: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net>; Order Ecumenical Community <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> Sent: Fri, May 17, 2019 10:30 am Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] 5/16/19, Progressing Spirit: Brian McLaren: What Am I Now? Thanks, Ellie, for forwarding the Progressing Spirit emails. This column by Brian McLaren I found particularly stimulating. He, more than any other thinker for me, brings together the best of what is happening in present theology and religious movements. If anyone has another voice they find of like significance, I would be most happy to hear about that person. I’m currently working on trying to relate the work of the biblical scholars who point out the need to place the first two centuries of the Jesus movement in its context of and conflict with the Roman Empire. Then I’m trying to find what this means for today’s church set in today’s empire. The best book I have found tying these two together, one written ten years ago by Brian McLaren, is not among his books mentioned in this column. It is his “Everything Must Change: Jesus, global crises, and a revolution of hope.” I recommend it highly. Grace and Peace, Bud Tillinghast