George, et al: Your statement from, "The Divine Dance," that everything is holy reminded me of the definitions of pantheism and panENtheism. Pantheism is the belief that God and Nature on one and the same. PanENtheism is the belief that God is the soul of all things. In both definitions, the caveat is that we need to have the eyes to see it. I'd affirm that anyone spending time in E.I or O.E. would have their eyes open. I like the position that John Wesley takes on living the awakened life is that humans are hope-less-lee spiritually blind; they can not awaken themselves. Fortunately, the work of the church is to be the catalyst for awakening people. When I was teaching high school in the Behavior Disordered division, I was suddenly,I could anticipate the solution, I said, "Mary, please stop!" She replied, "Why? What's wrong?" I responded, "I've just seen God in Algebra." Fortunately, Mary already was familiar with my weird remarks. Jann's remark concerning, "We're in for an interesting ride on this wave of the last gasp of the dying age." This is so true, because the Einsteinian revolution changed our worldview from the Newtonian to the Einsteinian worldview. Our high school youth, and their parents, all were born after 1985. This is the year that sociologists have determined is the "water shed" year. Those of us born before this auspicious year are wired differently. It is the purpose of discovering how to communicate the Good News to this generation that I have spent the last 17 years. Three books on the Gospels are now published; seven more have the research done. This is what is keeping me alive. God has all this work for me to do, and I'm so far behind that I'll never die. Inner Peace, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: via OE To: geowanda1@me.com ; oe@lists.wedgeblade.net ; dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] On getting on with it Thank you George. Re Susan's objection, I mentally substituted, "some people are occasionally consciously aware of. (struck by)" I adore "our" triangle scheme. When I look at the Social Process Triangles, I am most drawn to the void in the center, where, for me, Mother/Father God dwells. So good to hear about everyone's participation in the marches on Saturday. We're in for an interesting ride on this wave of the last gasp of the dying age. Grace, peace, love, Jann -----Original Message----- From: George Holcombe via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> To: ICA/OE List Serves <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net>; ICA/OE List Serves <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> Sent: Mon, Jan 23, 2017 3:10 am Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] On getting on with it Ever since Joe’s insistence that “all is good” has rattled around in my head (a long time) it has forced me to re-image and rethink my whole life whenever adversity or what I call “turn arounds” like Trump’s election have happened, or when I began to realize what slavery was, or experienced some of the plight of the 3rd world. I”ve recently found Rohr’s work helpful in getting on with life and trying to do “the Dance,” by not retreating into the comfort of a “spirituality” but acting. Here is a piece I’ve found as an introduction to the exercise. “Instead of the small god we seem stuck with in our current (and dying) paradigm, usually preoccupied with exclusion, The Trinitarian Revolution reveals God as with us in all of life instead of standing on the sidelines, always critiquing which things belong and which things don’t. The Trinitarian Revolution reveals God as always involved instead of the in-and-out deity that leaves most of humanity “orphaned” much of the time (19. See John 14:18). Theologically, of course, this revolution repositions grace as inherent to creation, not as occasional additive that some people occasionally merit. If this revolution has always been quietly present, like yeast in the dough of our rising spirituality, it might help us understand the hopeful and positive “adoption” and “inheritance” theologies of Paul (20. See, for example, Romans 88:14-17; Galatians 4: 5-7; Ephesians 1:5,14) and the Eastern Fathers over the later, punitive images of God that have dominated the Western church. This God is the very one whom we have names “Trinity” -the flow who flows through everything, without exception, and who has done so since the beginning. Thus, everything is holy, for those who have learned how to see.”. The Divine Dance Richard Rhor p. 37 George Holcombe 14900 Yellowleaf Tr. Austin, TX 78728 Mobile 512/252-2756 geowanda1@me.com "Whatever the problem, community is the answer. There is no power greater than a community discovering what it cares about." 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