Isobel and Jim Bishop isobeljimbish@optusnet.com.au Dear colleagues all, A special thanks to Marshall and Jack for this profound discussion, encouraged by others on this list serve. I strongly agree with the sentiments from both Marshall and Jack. For me, I find myself still in the Abyss, in the ' no longer and not yet place. Some years ago now the Packhard family visited Australia and we got to discussing the Other World charts and their extraordinary legacy for humankind. I did write and ask them to send us the package that they had worked on. I wonder if that work is still available or perhaps even in the Archives, y'all.? I was very fascinated by chatting with George and Elise. Australia is a very secular and yet deeply spiritual continent, undergirded by the Indigenous culture, which runs deep into the veins of us old folks. I won't belabour history for those of us at the first ITI in Singapore' 69; and the enormous spiritual effect that ITI had on us all,including the 3 Aboriginals and the 20 pink Australians and all of the SE Asian participants present. Some Church people like Jim and others had already been quietly building relationships with the indigenous community well before that ITI. At the turn of the year, I will be sitting down with our Minister and describing to her the depth and breadth of the Other World Charts, and their significance for the present and future of our civil/ global society. Our fondest greetings to each one of you, and may the inauguration of your next President have elements of hope and grace and forgiveness within the symbolic event, and thereafter. Transformation does happen, through any and many means of grace. We are praying so. Those of us within the bounds of Christianity do trust that this is so. Lately our dear Muslim friends are holding ' have a plate of hummus' as a kindly gesture to those of us who say yes… The future is still open for us to create my dear colleagues, and at 80, I am trying to quietly do my little bit. Jim , 87, is too, as a ' passenger at the back of the bus.' He still has paid his ticket though! Passing on the tools that are in our kitbag- is where I am sitting. For the next thousand years, eh Jack! Blessings without number on your lives…. Isobel Bishop.