Thanks for all the birthday greetings which I got because Brother Wiegel outed me <grin!> I am 70, so I can now ride the bus and light rail in Houston for free, and am now starting social security as late as possible, a bet about longevity, we shall see how that works out. I shall continue to keep these lists going because they seems to (mostly) work for our aging community despite the old technology,. Let me add that if you are not sorting your incoming mail for the lists, all the discussion might be a bit overwhelming. I have configured mine so all the OE goes to an OE folder, all the dialogue goes to a dialogue folder, and so the discussion does not clog my inbox. By this means sanity is preserved. I can't help individuals do this because it's just too much, so I suggest recruiting your great grandkids to help. Or try googling "sort email gmail", replacing "gmail" with your email provider. Believe me, this is worth a few hours of your time. Tim