Bill, Several years ago I visited the modest home of Phillip Simmons in Charleston, SC. Mr. Simmons, now deceased, was the African American man who designed and built the gates on many of the famous Charleston gardens, as well as the gate at the entrance to the Smithsonian Institute in Washington, DC. In his bedroom he had a poster on the wall that was the best short-course on prayer that I've ever run across and it has stuck with me over the years like no other. The poster had an old black man, a lot like Mr. Simmons himself, down on his knees beside his bed. The caption beneath read, "If you think God doesn't answer prayer, then get off your knees and do something." Mr. Simmons continued to live in his little white frame home in a low income neighborhood of Charleston until he moved to a long-term care facility shortly before his death at, I've heard, over age 90. With the considerable amount of money he made from his gates he sent his children and then his grandchildren to college. And then he sent most of the neighborhood kids as well. Prayer, the action before the action, indeed! Poverty, chastity and obedience in the flesh! Best wishes, Randy No change without action, no action without thought. -Anonymous From: William Salmon <wsalmon@cox.net> To: OE@lists.wedgeblade.net Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 10:36 AM Subject: [Oe List ...] Salmon: On prayer ----- Original Message ----- From: William Salmon To: Jim Wheeler Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 10:34 AM Subject: Salmon: On prayer Colleagues-- This is my response to Barbara Wendland's newsletter article on the problem with prayer. Watcha think? Bill PS: Barbara Wendland has been around for a long time and operates as a thorn in the side of the traditional church. Consider asking for her free monthly newsletter. At one time many of us in OE already knew of her efforts. wes ----- Original Message ----- From: Barbara Wendland To: bcwendland@aol.com Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 5:48 PM Subject: 7-13 Connections - Public prayer and religious freedom The July 2013 issue of Connections is attached. If you’re uneasy about opening attachments and want to get Connections by snail mail instead, please let me know. In fact, if at any time for any reason you want to stop getting Connections by e-mail, please reply to this message and let me know, and I will remove you from my list. If you change your e-mail address and want to keep getting Connections, please let me know your new e-mail address. Otherwise I’ll have to drop you from my mailing list because I’ll no longer be able to find you. But be sure to tell me your name and/or your present e-mail address too; to find you on my list, I need one of those. I e-mail Connections to a large list, so to avoid getting it filtered out by your spam filter, you may need to enter into your address book the address from which I send it -- bcwendland@vvm.com . (That's v v m, not w m as it looks like in some fonts.) If you’re getting Connections this month for the first time, you might like to see back issues or information about Connections. If so, you can find them on my website--http://www.connectionsonline.org/Connections_issues.htm If you're new at getting Connections by e-mail, I remind you that to read this issue, you must first download the attached file to your computer, or you must click on the website link above and find the issue there. Then to open the file, you must have the Adobe Acrobat Reader software program on your computer. If you have a very old version of Adobe Acrobat Reader, you may need to uninstall it and download and install the most recent version, using the link below to the Adobe website. Getting this program is easy and free. To get it, click on this link Adobe Acrobat Reader and follow the instructions you find at the Adobe website it takes you to, for downloading the software to your computer. After you have the Adobe software, whenever you click on the name of a pdf file, the file will automatically open. Thanks for your interest in getting Connections. I’ll appreciate knowing your reaction to its contents anytime you’d like to respond, and I’ll appreciate your letting other interested people know about it. Barbara No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com/ Version: 2013.0.3345 / Virus Database: 3204/6450 - Release Date: 06/29/13 Internal Virus Database is out of date. _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net