Wrong about social change??
"I've been doing social change work for more than 40 years, and I know that organizing people to hold our elected officials accountable is the only thing that actually makes change." Wenonah Hauter. True or false. Please comment Jim Wiegel Those who have the most rigorously tested answers will not drive the future of learning; those who pursue the most meaningful questions will. Mathew Abrams 401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353 Tel. 011-623-936-8671 or 011-623-363-3277 jfwiegel@yahoo.com www.partnersinparticipation.com Upcoming public course opportunities: ToP® Facilitation Methods: Sep 9-10, Nov 18-19, 2014 Click to watch video. ToP® Strategic Planning: Oct 7-8, 2014 Click to learn more. Facilitation Mastery: The Mastering the Technology of Participation program begins in Oakland on Nov 12-14, 2014 Click to watch video. For online registration go to http://www.top-training.net The AZ ToP® Community of Practice meets the 1st Friday, 1-4 pm, starting again on Sept 5th at ACYR, 648 N. 5th Avenue, Phoenix, AZ 85003 AICP Planners: 14.5 CM for all ToP® courses
False. Change rarely happens by trying to make other people do something. It's a do-it-yourself operation. "Whoever sees the need, does the deed." "D-O-O-P" was a project mantra (Do Our Own Project). Or, as we once said, "If you're waiting for the government to make the changes you want, you have a long wait ahead" or something like that. It does require organizing people, not to hold representatives responsible, but to get the work done. John At 12:17 PM 9/28/2014, James Wiegel via OE wrote:
"I've been doing social change work for more than 40 years, and I know that organizing people to hold our elected officials accountable is the only thing that actually makes change." Wenonah Hauter.
True or false. Please comment
Jim Wiegel
Those who have the most rigorously tested answers will not drive the future of learning; those who pursue the most meaningful questions will. Mathew Abrams
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Ah....is it always false? One of the problematic side effects of the development aid to Africa is that it reduces the straightforward way in which Africans can hold their elected politicians to account for the success or failure of their actions. There is a South African economist, who advocates abolishing development aid to African governments because of this. The billions spend on lobby groups in Washington and Brussels, etc, seem to have a big impact on the way society operates. So, not always. Paul Paul Schrijnen 13 Bloemfontein Avenue London W12 7BJ +44 7973 206 766 Pschrijnen@aol.com Skype: paulus.schrijnen
On 29 Sep 2014, at 03:12, "jlepps@pc.jaring.my via Dialogue" <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
False.
Change rarely happens by trying to make other people do something. It's a do-it-yourself operation. "Whoever sees the need, does the deed." "D-O-O-P" was a project mantra (Do Our Own Project). Or, as we once said, "If you're waiting for the government to make the changes you want, you have a long wait ahead" or something like that.
It does require organizing people, not to hold representatives responsible, but to get the work done.
John
At 12:17 PM 9/28/2014, James Wiegel via OE wrote:
"I've been doing social change work for more than 40 years, and I know that organizing people to hold our elected officials accountable is the only thing that actually makes change." Wenonah Hauter.
True or false. Please comment
Jim Wiegel
Those who have the most rigorously tested answers will not drive the future of learning; those who pursue the most meaningful questions will. Mathew Abrams
401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353 Tel. 011-623-936-8671 or 011-623-363-3277 jfwiegel@yahoo.com www.partnersinparticipation.com
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True via the ballot box changing who is in office can make a major difference in the story, policy and public priorities areas. False - Action and implementation is another vast arena involving 1000s of players, budgets and the will to act. / Sherwood From: OE [mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of jlepps@pc.jaring.my via OE Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 8:12 PM To: James Wiegel; Colleague Dialogue; Order Ecumenical Community Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Wrong about social change?? False. Change rarely happens by trying to make other people do something. It's a do-it-yourself operation. "Whoever sees the need, does the deed." "D-O-O-P" was a project mantra (Do Our Own Project). Or, as we once said, "If you're waiting for the government to make the changes you want, you have a long wait ahead" or something like that. It does require organizing people, not to hold representatives responsible, but to get the work done. John At 12:17 PM 9/28/2014, James Wiegel via OE wrote: "I've been doing social change work for more than 40 years, and I know that organizing people to hold our elected officials accountable is the only thing that actually makes change." Wenonah Hauter. True or false. Please comment Jim Wiegel Those who have the most rigorously tested answers will not drive the future of learning; those who pursue the most meaningful questions will. Mathew Abrams 401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353 <x-apple-data-detectors://0> Tel. 011-623-936-8671 or 011-623-363-3277 jfwiegel@yahoo.com <mailto:marilyn.oyler@gmail.com> www.partnersinparticipation.com <http://www.partnersinparticipation.com/> Upcoming public course opportunities: ToP® Facilitation Methods: Sep 9-10 <x-apple-data-detectors://3> , Nov 18-19, 2014 <x-apple-data-detectors://4> Click to watch video <http://partnersinparticipation.com/?page_id=48> . ToP® Strategic Planning: Oct 7-8, 2014 <x-apple-data-detectors://5> Click to learn more <http://partnersinparticipation.com/?page_id=50> . Facilitation Mastery: The Mastering the Technology of Participation program begins in Oakland on Nov 12-14, 2014 <x-apple-data-detectors://6> Click to watch video <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz3mniiYCdI> . For online registration go to http://www.top-training.net <http://www.top-training.net/> The AZ ToP® Community of Practice meets the 1st Friday, 1-4 pm <x-apple-data-detectors://8> , starting again on Sept 5th <x-apple-data-detectors://9> at ACYR, 648 N. 5th Avenue, Phoenix, AZ 85003 <https://www.google.com/maps/place/648+N+5th+Ave/@33.456329,-112.080545,16z/ data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x872b123a5312512d:0x93c9f71171108956?hl=> AICP Planners: 14.5 CM for all ToP® courses _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
True! Somehow the ballot box has survived all these years and is still something that the power hungry regard warily. Entrenching it further still and spreading the practice across all societies and levels can be one of our epoch's civilizational advances. Dharma On Monday, September 29, 2014 2:17 AM, James Wiegel via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
"I've been doing social change work for more than 40 years, and I know that organizing people to hold our elected officials accountable is the only thing that actually makes change." Wenonah Hauter.
True or false. Please comment
Jim Wiegel
Those who have the most rigorously tested answers will not drive the future of learning; those who pursue the most meaningful questions will. Mathew Abrams
401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353 Tel. 011-623-936-8671 or 011-623-363-3277 jfwiegel@yahoo.com www.partnersinparticipation.com
Upcoming public course opportunities: ToP® Facilitation Methods: Sep 9-10, Nov 18-19, 2014 Click to watch video. ToP® Strategic Planning: Oct 7-8, 2014 Click to learn more. Facilitation Mastery: The Mastering the Technology of Participation program begins in Oakland on Nov 12-14, 2014 Click to watch video. For online registration go to http://www.top-training.net The AZ ToP® Community of Practice meets the 1st Friday, 1-4 pm, starting again on Sept 5th at ACYR, 648 N. 5th Avenue, Phoenix, AZ 85003 AICP Planners: 14.5 CM for all ToP® courses _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
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James Wiegel via Dialogue
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jlepps＠pc.jaring.my via Dialogue
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Paul Schrijnen via Dialogue
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Sherwood Shankland via Dialogue