Considering Ross Douthat;s Conservative "culture war" question about liberals: [NYTimes}] "Can Liberal Christianity Be Saved?" in which he?asserted that manifestations of liberal Christianity, like the Episcopal Church, are facing imminent death. ---and--- Randy Williams Asks a Q about survival of Christian movements and institutions The question could perhaps be taken to yet another level by asking, "Can religion be saved?" Or perhaps even more relevant, using our language and concerns from the 60s and 70s, is the question, "Can movemental Christianity survive and thrive, without the institutional church?" ---- James Wiegel's question aout what past models might be useful Perhaps, though, the question is wrong. Maybe the question is, how are we as a human species, going to generate a level of courage, wisdom, care and creativity that is more than adequate to meet the challenges of this new century? The Ecumenical Institute tried for the local congregation, the Institute of Cultural Affairs tried for the local community. Gloria Steinem and many others tried for empowered women, ---- David Fitch asserts that in national gridlock, the only place to move is in the localis and suggests local churches get over their own ideology. https://docs.google.com/document/d/14tq6zJYgj-AtqWvpK_50G2X_09thefMc2OfB5Abj... It might be the only place to move in the twilight of 2 elites http://www.democracynow.org/2012/7/17/twilight_of_the_elites_chris_hayes Where is a place to stand again, and who is going to stand there? Sounds like it is time to dust off Sarte's paper on cultural revolution in CS1. Another question: who would lead this in the next generation?