For those of you who did NRM research in the RHÂ Odyssey construct, you may remember this page with Dag https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xyd3jYmOpT4cSCfd_4W2l-Cqkbb_ExlmxW7_VNwW... [This page is in the new ICA-USA.org Anyone remember what the phrase "THE DIALOGUE establishing interior community" meant? I'm thinking this was a phenomenological category of meditation. Is this right? Wondering why you would do that as a "between the ears" conversation? In the Sot Zen tradition I'm currently studying with a priest named Dosho Port, he says there is "just sitting" on the cushon and then there is something like "just puzzling" often in a formal dialogue called "Dokusan" where the one who has something to say speaks and the one who has space to listens listens. There is a kind of intentional conversation sometimes around an unanswerable question like what precisely is the value of a dead cat? [4 legged kind] Anyone know how Dag's poem came to be a point of dialogue for a phenomenological inquiry? Even better: got an Odyssey experience to share? Steve