Wayne, This sounds rather amazing. Please tell us more. Lynda Cock, Greensboro, NC _____ From: dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net [mailto:dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Ellsworth Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 4:23 AM To: Colleague Dialogue; David Zahrt Subject: Re: [Dialogue] A P O C A L Y P S E !! David, This is a simple summary of where we are and are headed. Even President's of major companies have said it is time to redefine capitalism. Thanks for this article. It will help me in setting up 16 profound radiant peace creating centers. Are you with me? Wayne On Feb 17, 2013, at 12:39 PM, David Zahrt <4deezee@gmail.com> wrote: I still have friends in Iowa. This is what I got last week. I THINK YOU CAN SEE I'M FORWARDING THIS TO YOU. IT SEEMS TO BE WELL PUT AND ON TARGET David From: Mark Edwards Sent: 10 Feb 2013 18:30:44 GMT To: IOWA-NATIVE-PLANTS@LIST.UIOWA.EDU Subject: [IOWA-NATIVE-PLANTS] Food for Thought Rationally Speaking, We Are All <http://mail.yahoo.com/> Apocalyptic Now
From Robert Jensen Updates <http://us-mg6.mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch?.rand=eis30cjomtfqb>
http://truth-out.org/index.php?option=com_k2 <http://truth-out.org/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=14322&Itemid=228> &view=item&id=14322&Itemid=228 Rationally Speaking, We Are All Apocalyptic Now Friday, 08 February 2013 By Robert Jensen, Truthout | Op-Ed ---------- If we are rational and consider objective scientific evidence of environmental collapse including groundwater depletion, topsoil loss, chemical contamination, ocean dead zones, species extinction, bio-diversity reduction and climate disruption, we need to be apocalypticists, argues Robert Jensen, the author of We Are All Apocalyptic Now: On the Responsibilities of Teaching, Preaching, Reporting, Writing, and Speaking Out. ---------- We are all apocalyptic now, or at least we should be, if we are rational. Because "apocalyptic" is typically associated with religious fanaticism and death cults -- things that rational people tend not to take literally or seriously -- this claim requires some explanation. First, a definition: The term is most commonly used in reference to the Book of Revelation, also known as The Apocalypse of John, the final book of the Christian New Testament. The two terms are synonymous in their original meaning - "revelation" from Latin and "apocalypse" from Greek both mean a lifting of the veil, a disclosure of something that had been hidden. Second, the formulation "we are all (fill in the blank) now" has long been a way to assert that certain ideas have become the norm: "We are all Keynesians now," said Milton Friedman in 1965, for instance, or to express solidarity: "We are all New Yorkers now," said many non-New Yorkers after 9/11. Rather than claiming divine inspiration, we can come to greater clarity about the desperate state of the ecosphere and its human inhabitants through evidence and reason. It is time for a calm, measured apocalypticism that recognizes that the ecosphere sets norms, which we have ignored for too long, and that we need to develop a new sense of solidarity among humans and with the larger living world. So, speaking apocalyptically need not leave us stuck in a corner with the folks predicting lakes of fire, rivers of blood or bodies lifted up to the heavens. Instead, it can focus our attention on ecological realities and on the unjust and unsustainable human systems that have brought us to this point. This "revelation" is simple: We've built a world based on the assumption that we will have endless energy to subsidize endless economic expansion, which was supposed to magically produce justice. That world is over, both in reality and in dreams. Either we begin to build a different world, or there will be no world capable of sustaining a large-scale human presence. If that's not clear: When we take seriously what physics, chemistry and biology tell us about the health of the living world on which we depend, we all should be thinking apocalyptically. Look at any crucial measure of the ecosphere -- groundwater depletion, topsoil loss, chemical contamination, increased toxicity in our own bodies, the number and size of "dead zones" in the oceans, accelerating extinction of species and reduction of biodiversity, and the ultimate game-changer of climate disruption -- and ask a simple question: Where we are heading? Scientists these days are talking about tipping points and planetary boundaries, about how human activity is pushing the planet beyond its limits. If we look honestly at the state of the world, it is difficult not to conclude that we are in end times of sorts -- not the end of the physical world, but the end of the First-World way of living and the end of the systems on which that life is based. I know that invoking the terms "apocalypse" and "end times" triggers many people's experiences with arrogant religious people who preach about deliverance fantasies. My message is not about a rapture that can be predicted, but about ruptures in the ecological and social fabrics that are underway and accelerating. No matter how carefully I craft these statements -- no matter how often I deny a claim to special gifts of prognostication, no matter now clearly I reject supernatural explanations or solutions -- many people refuse to take this analysis seriously. Some people joke about "Mr. Doom and Gloom." Others suggest that such talk is no different than conspiracy theorists' ramblings about how international bankers, secret cells of communists, or crypto-fascists are using the United Nations to create a one-world government. Even the most measured and careful talk of the coming dramatic change in the place of humans on Earth leads to accusations that one is unnecessarily alarmist, probably paranoid and certainly irrelevant in serious discussions about social and ecological issues. In the United States, people expect talk of the future to be upbeat, based on those assumptions of endless expansion and perpetual progress, or at least maintenance of our "way of life." Even those who realize the danger of such fanciful thinking are hesitant to speak too bluntly, out of fear of seeming crazy. A calm apocalypticism is not crazy, but rather can help us confront honestly the crises of our time and strategize constructively about possible responses. We can struggle to understand -- to the best of our ability, without succumbing to magical thinking -- the state of the ecosphere and the impediments to sensible action in our societies. This struggle to understand led me to write a short polemic, We Are All Apocalyptic Now: On the Responsibilities of Teaching, Preaching, Reporting, Writing, and Speaking Out (in print athttp://www.amazon.com/gp/product/148195847X/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8 <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/148195847X/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&p sc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER> &psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER and on Kindle athttp://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BAWQO84). The book's message is simple: The big systems that structure our world, especially capitalism and the extractive economy, are incompatible with social justice and ecological sustainability. Those who have opportunities to write and speak out have a responsibility to articulate the radical analysis necessary to understand the problems and begin to identify solutions. To think apocalyptically is not to give up on ourselves, but only to give up on the arrogant stories -- religious and secular -- that we modern humans have been telling about ourselves. Our hope for a decent future -- indeed, any hope for even the idea of a future -- depends on our ability to tell stories not of how humans have ruled the world, but how we can live in the world. We are all apocalyptic now, whether we like it or not. --------------- Robert Jensen is a professor in the School of Journalism at the University of Texas at Austin and board member of the Third Coast Activist Resource Center in Austin. We Are All Apocalyptic Now: On the Responsibilities of Teaching, Preaching, Reporting, Writing, and Speaking Out is online in print athttp://www.amazon.com/gp/product/148195847X/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8 <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/148195847X/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&p sc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER> &psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER and on Kindle athttp://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BAWQO84. Jensen is also the author of Arguing for Our Lives: A User's Guide to Constructive Dialogue (City Lights, coming in April 2013); All My Bones Shake: Seeking a Progressive Path to the Prophetic Voice, (Soft Skull Press, 2009); Getting Off: Pornography and the End of Masculinity (South End Press, 2007); The Heart of Whiteness: Confronting Race, Racism and White Privilege (City Lights, 2005); Citizens of the Empire: The Struggle to Claim Our Humanity (City Lights, 2004); and Writing Dissent: Taking Radical Ideas from the Margins to the Mainstream (Peter Lang, 2002). Jensen is also co-producer of the documentary film "Abe Osheroff: One Foot in the Grave, the Other Still Dancing" (Media Education Foundation, 2009), which chronicles the life and philosophy of the longtime radical activist. An extended interview Jensen conducted with Osheroff is online athttp://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~rjensen/freelance/abeosheroffinterview.htm. Jensen can be reached at rjensen@austin.utexas.edu and his articles can be found online athttp://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~rjensen/index.html. To join an email list to receive articles by Jensen, go tohttp://www.thirdcoastactivist.org/jensenupdates-info.html. Twitter: @jensenrobertw.-- "Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circles of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty." -- Albert Einstein _____ Iowa Native Plants mailing list Iowa-Native-Plants@uiowa.edu http://atmos.cgrer.uiowa.edu/herbarium/MailingList.htm The Iowa Native Plants Mailing List provides a forum for those interested in Iowa's natural vegetation and in general conservation issues. Another objective is to promote the Iowa Native Plant Society. This list is owned and managed by Diana Horton, and sponsored by the University of Iowa Department of Biology. 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