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Dawn Collins collinsdawn747 at yahoo.com
Thu Feb 6 15:54:33 PST 2020


 Dear Marianna,
I usually take my shoes off and prop my feet on a little step stool in my study space when conversing with colleagues on social media--designating sacred space at my desk is what I choose to think.  
I have a set of Thurman's books on my 'must read' shelf. I became acquainted with him in the '60s and wondered why we didn't pay him more than a cursory glance as we studied in depth the great German theologians. Surely it was a matter of cowardice that I didn't pass my affinity for his writings on to JWM. Two take-aways from my primary read from those days are:  We must seek common ground in our theological dialogues and relationships succeed when based on complementary rather than competitive means.
With regards to Facebook: Did you know Zuckerberg had a private dinner with Trump? Bet there are many who would have wished to be a fly on the wall there across the spectrum of political leanings. I'm leaning toward making my differences of opinion with Facebook known in What's on Your Mind box. I've been redlined once, so I know they read pertinent and pointed entries. I treasure the sharing of our reflections, insights, and whimsies on a daily basis in Facebook. I decided to skip any replies to posts with the dear leader's photo as it is generally grounds for visceral apoplexy or view 'em and weep.
Needless to say, our oe emails are a valuable resource for keeping our fingers on the pulse of our beloved community and the state of the Spirit on the move...
Maybe if more of us express our dissatisfaction with Facebook''s present distasteful decision it might make a difference...So, for now, I'm in a holding pattern and remain a participant in the valuing of expressing ourselves with this present means of communication.
Kindfully yours,
dawn

We love the Final Reality because the Final Reality loved us first.- 1 John 4:19

   

    ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Marianna Bailey via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>Cc: Marianna Bailey <wmbailey at charter.net>Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2020, 06:27:21 PM MSTSubject: Re: [Oe List ...] Fmwd: [DailyMeditations] 2/4/20: Moving Beyond Evil: Wisdom from Howard Thurman
 Jack,Thanks for your response and sharing your thoughts . I  look forward to your book.Take care and give my love to Litibu.Marianna
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On Feb 4, 2020, at 5:21 PM, Seth Longacre via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:



 Jack,
What can I say? This is so powerful, so insightful and so useful. I deeply appreciate the call to be quiet and experience the experience first and also your compassionate observation of what is happening with people in the world now. Personally, I don’t feel so articulate, but I have no appetite for condemnation, fear-mongering or even despair at the political or societal level, so I tend to just keep my mouth shut. Yet, that somehow feels like it is suppressive. I think I will read your message over and over in the coming days.
Seth LongacreSethlongacre at gmail.comSent from one of my iThingies, please excuse typos and brevity

On Feb 4, 2020, at 06:13, Jack Gilles via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:



Marianna,
Greetings from Litibu! We keep Bill and your spirit alive in our midst with the great stories of beginning the Dream. Just had to get that in!
All who decide to take on this topic walk on fragiple ground. By that I mean, we are using words as if they conveyed the same meaning, understanding to all. The RS-I short course of: "First, point to a “going-on-ness” and then give it a name." serves us a reminder of how not to dialogue.
We experience actions taken “out there" and we respond from “in here”. We all have filters that inform us through our senses to somehow make sense of the going-on-ness we point to. Remember that those of us who have spent most of our lives in the West, tend to have filters that require left-brain activity; words, rationality and specifics (particulars). It shapes our speech and images of what is real. This process is especially strong, though of course not limited to, men. The Universal dynamics of masculine-feminine are in both sexes. We need more holistic, non-verbal (arts, symbolic and Myth (poetry) to communicate fully. 
I do not want to reduce this vital topic to a treatise on human behavior. But we do need to stand still, let silence speak, before we rush into sociological answers and solutions. 
Our ability, and indeed everyone’s ability to keep the social fabric within some boundaries is to grasp what is it that tells us: “Stop! you are beyond the boundary.”. We are now experiencing two things, the boundaries have shifted, and the “ties that bind” are breaking. Let me ground that.
Nations, lines on a map, names we gave that which inside the lines, were a great advance in the human journey. It gave us a new “sense" of substance, a story, identity, and a way to create myths that spoke emotionally. We forget it was/is an invention. They don’t exist. Just like we can say it’s raining and cold someplace and not in another we have no problem in seeing that weather is a continuum. it changes and we accept (or curse!) the change. But things that change very slowly, like the coming into being and the going out of being of nations is feared, resisted, fought over, mobilized against, seen as an enemy and even died for. If it kills that which I love, then it has to be Evil. 
We now are living in a time of accelerated change. Everything is changing. We “live” with the fires in Australia, the pandemics, the instant banking and global commerce, and on and on. They came so fast and we are so slow! Hell, I have a phone that I have no idea of all the things it can do. I just want to talk to someone! But we all know there is no going back. And what we experience today will do nothing but get faster and faster. It's like we are standing on a pile of rubble and there is not a bright new shiny house to move into. It's a desert, a swamp, and it is easy to say, “The hell with you, I am going to survive, so let me accumulate a safe place, build a wall, gets some guns and find a few more to keep al the doors covered”. Or maybe I should speak of the Mormon Church with its billions of dollars stashed in growth investments to get prepared for the “end times”. And if you don’t think this is feared, just go out where people are shouting USA, USA and tell them a new world is coming! Let us know the date of your funeral!
The “ties that bind” are breaking. I call these Disciplines. We may go on a diet, but unless we develop a new way of living, the habit comes right back. We have a lot of ties that are more like rubber bands. And now, when they break, there are none to replace them. To what boundary do you hook one end? To what internal capacity to you hook the other? 
I won’t go longer, but you have just entered the start of my new book (still being written). A hint: it has a lot to do with the NRM. 
Peace,
Jack



On Feb 4, 2020, at 05:31, Marianna Bailey via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Dear Colleagues,This is one meditation dealing with evil. There are others on the website. I”m concerned about this country and the evil that has been set loose. I’m also re-thinking my participation on Facebook. Do you have any thoughts on that subject? Marianna Bailey


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| Moving Beyond Evil: Wisdom from Howard Thurman

Meditation #268, February 4, 2020
Transforming Evil   


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| For two weeks or so—interrupted by several meditations on generosity—we have been meditating on Evil.  That is an important meditation for Evil is possible wherever humans gather. Evil is often in the air like a wind that brings chaos with it.
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| One person described such a movement as a cult of persons “hopelessly addicted to power.”  Yes, power was everything so it took precedence over everything else.  Truly an idolatrous goings on.  Power was god and Hitler cultists worshipped at the feet of the fuhrer who could do no wrong. |

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| We do not want to spend too much time in the room with evil.  We do not want to give it all the headlines.  Evil is itself narcissistic and wants the spotlight so we want to resist giving it all it wants.
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| Scanned: November 17, 2005 Howard Thurman Dean Thurman @ Marsh Chapel March 6, 1959 Historical. Photo originally posted to Boston University’s School of Theology, Howard Thurman Papers Project. |

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| We want to meditate on—and execute—ways out of evil.  We have done this frequently in our Meditations by sharing stories about people and movements who have demonstrated the courage and vision to bring good into the world. Among those people and movements are the mystics.   |

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| Consider Howard Thurman, for example, who was so instrumental as a visionary behind the civil right movement.  Among his profound questions is the following:
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| Precisely what does it mean to experience oneself as a human being? In the first place, it means that the individual must have a sense of kinship to life that transcends and goes beyond the immediate kinship of family or the organized kinship that binds him ethnically or racially or nationally. |

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| See Matthew Fox, “Hitler as a Religious Figure,” in Matthew Fox, Sins of the Spirit, Blessings of the Flesh: Transforming Evil in Soul and Society, pp.389-398.
See Matthew Fox, Christian Mystics: 365 Readings and Meditations, p. 210.
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Hitler’s movement is often called a cult.  Do you recognize in our world today movements that are also cult-like and made up of people “hopelessly addicted to power”?
Howard Thurman’s question is a big one and puts struggle into a larger context: What does it mean to experience oneself as a human being?  What is a human being?
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| Sins of the Spirit, Blessings of the Flesh: Transforming Evil in Soul and Society

Fox makes the point that religion has so often oversold the concept of “sin” that it has left us without language or power to combat evil. Through comparing the Eastern tradition of the 7 chakras to the Western tradition of the 7 capital sins, Fox allows us to think creatively about our capacity for personal and institutional evil and what we can do about them. 
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| Christian Mystics: 365 Readings & Meditations
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