[Oe List ...] Tillich's students might join #MeToo, if any survive

John Epps jlepps39 at gmail.com
Fri Nov 17 10:39:17 PST 2017


This is good, Jann, and thanks for posting it. It reads like a re-working
of the Donatist controversy in the early church. As quick Google reminder
said, "*Donatists *argued that Christian clergy must be faultless for their
ministry to be effective and their prayers and sacraments to be valid."

This perspective was declared a heresy and died out around 411 AD, but
still appears from time to time. Clergy and theologians, like everyone else
are forgiven sinners! As we said in the Daily Office, "We are free to live,
for we are a forgiven people." That's not an excuse for manifest mis-deeds
but a mandate to "go and sin no more."

On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 10:32 AM, McCabe, Diann A via OE <
oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:

> The movie you mention, John, must have been The Last Temptation of Christ
> (Kaz).—Diann McCabe
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 17, 2017, at 11:21 AM, John C via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the article, Jann. Many heroes come to mind, e.g., John F.
> Kennedy. Surprised about Tillich in the article you sent:
>
> https://feminismandreligion.com/2017/11/17/does-the-sexual-misconduct-of-
> theologians-and-their-writings-endorse-a-theology-of-complicity-in-the-
> rendering-of-women-as-sexual-temptress-by-cynthia-garrity-bond/#more-38558
> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffeminismandreligion.com%2F2017%2F11%2F17%2Fdoes-the-sexual-misconduct-of-theologians-and-their-writings-endorse-a-theology-of-complicity-in-the-rendering-of-women-as-sexual-temptress-by-cynthia-garrity-bond%2F%23more-38558&data=01%7C01%7Cdm14%40txstate.edu%7C607a68976b754db6e52908d52ddf978b%7Cb19c134a14c94d4caf65c420f94c8cbb%7C0&sdata=nDj%2BBjKYtCyE6DrcsLiyZqzEawCjd5pqfYFTc2IrXFA%3D&reserved=0>
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> When we get down to who is without sin, I only think of Jesus, and have
> even wondered about his deep companionship with
>
> women in the New Testament—a movie I can’t recall played on this question.
> Could he have been the son of Abba if he
>
> had “made love”? Doubt if we’ll ever know, though he did wrestle mightily
> as a *human being* throughout his life.
>
>
>
> John
>
>
>
> P.S. This bit at the end about the author is interesting*:* *Cynthia
> Garrity-Bond**, feminist theologian and social ethicist, is completing
> her doctorate from Claremont Graduate University in women studies in
> religion, with a secondary focus in theology, ethics and culture. Her
> research interest includes feminist sexual theology, transnational
> feminism, animal theology/welfare, women and incarceration, historical
> theology with particular emphasis on religious movements of women, agency
> and resistance to ecclesial authority, embodiment and Mariology.*
>
>
>
> *From: *OE <oe-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net> on behalf of Jann McGuire
> via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> *Reply-To: *Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> *Date: *Friday, November 17, 2017 at 11:42 AM
> *To: *Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> *Cc: *Jann McGuire <jannmcguire at gmail.com>
> *Subject: *[Oe List ...] Tillich's students might join #MeToo, if any
> survive
>
>
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> Interested ?
>
>
>
> https://feminismandreligion.com/2017/11/17/does-the-sexual-misconduct-of-
> theologians-and-their-writings-endorse-a-theology-of-complicity-in-the-
> rendering-of-women-as-sexual-temptress-by-cynthia-garrity-bond/#more-38558
> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffeminismandreligion.com%2F2017%2F11%2F17%2Fdoes-the-sexual-misconduct-of-theologians-and-their-writings-endorse-a-theology-of-complicity-in-the-rendering-of-women-as-sexual-temptress-by-cynthia-garrity-bond%2F%23more-38558&data=01%7C01%7Cdm14%40txstate.edu%7C607a68976b754db6e52908d52ddf978b%7Cb19c134a14c94d4caf65c420f94c8cbb%7C0&sdata=nDj%2BBjKYtCyE6DrcsLiyZqzEawCjd5pqfYFTc2IrXFA%3D&reserved=0>
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