[Oe List ...] Easter Reflections

Sun Apr 16 12:12:00 PDT 2017

Speaking of the void, the wikipedia entry on chaos is quite interesting. I looked it up yesterday, trying to write something about our present time in history.

It wasn't the literalism of the Maundy Thursday foot-washing service that caused my discomfort. I appreciated the sweetness. I could only interpret it as metaphorical since it isn't a practice in our culture. It was the piousity of the man leading the service that made me want to cross my arms over my heart in defense. Joe Pierce's words came to me from my RS-1 48.5 years ago, as he introduced the daily office. "If you get to feeling pious, try standing on one foot."

Then I had to confess to my journal later that night that it was I who was off-base to judge him and want to push away from his heart-felt words

Have a wonderful day, Brothers and Sisters. Wish we could all be at the potluck,

Love and blessings,

Jann

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It can't be a void if it is filled. It is filled with the very real presence of God, tangible even now in this occasional foretaste of the hereafter.Have you not sometimes had a glimpse?

Susan

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On Apr 16, 2017 1:52 PM, Jack Gilles <jackcgilles at gmail.com> wrote:

Susan,

Happy Easter to you as well! I was wondering how you would describe the dimension you speak of? I happen to agree with you, but I use the term Void, which is the eternal, existing along side the time/space experience. The Other World in the midst of this world.

Grace & Peace,

Jack

On Apr 16, 2017, at 12:14, Susan Fertig via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:

Isn’t your hip out of socket yet, James? All that wrestling with the Archangel…
Surrender and rejoice, friend. The Resurrection is real, not a metaphor.
Neither is it a 3-tiered universe; just another dimension altogether.

Susan

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Thank you for the reflections and the reminiscences.  I must admit I am wrestling some this week and still at Easter morn.  We get netflix dvds sent to us and last night, as we paused from getting ready for the potluck we are hosting, we watched the dvd we got in the mail.  Martin Scorceses SILENCE, about Jesuit priests on mission in Japan in the 1600's.  Lots of persecutions, apostasy as well.

All this for the metaphor of death and rebirth?  Hmmmm.  I read over the christ lecture transcribed in Bending History as well as the bits of the gospels.  Deepened the wrestling.  All complicated by a 10 year old grandson who has decided to be baptized today.  Have to stop here and go hide easter eggs . . .

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On Apr 15, 2017, at 19:52, Mary Kurian DSouza via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:

Nancy

What a lovely window of remembrance to look through

Thank you for sharing. 

Mary

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On 16-Apr-2017, at 6:36 AM, Nancy Trask via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:

I vividly remember Easter mornings in the OKC RH with Bill & Marianna Bailey.  First of all, Bill Bailey's resonating wake-up accompanied by the gong.  Barb Garrison & I played the Hallelujah Chorus on the baby grand.  Breakfast included a huge slab of salmon.  Oh my goodness -- If life had caused you to need some patching up, the best prescription would be 4 years in the OKC RH with Bill & Marianna.  Thank you for those experiences, Marianna!
All the best,
Nancy Trask

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I have been reminiscing...

Does anyone remember Easter Sunday in the Religious House? A very special day for the "wake up" ritual.

Marianna

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On Apr 15, 2017, at 4:00 PM, Frank Knutson via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:

Thank’s John, for the reminder.

“And once the storm is over you won’t remember how you made it through, how you managed to survive. You won’t even be sure, in fact, whether the storm is really over. But one thing is certain. When you come out of the storm you won’t be the same person who walked in. That’s what this storm’s all about”

~Haruki Murakami
<VIKING copy.jpeg>❤ Frank       

On Apr 15, 2017, at 10:19 AM, John Epps via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:

Coming to terms with the meaning
of the Easter story for us is difficult since times and world-views have
changed. We find it difficult even to grasp what it meant for those who first
told it, much less for us. Yet we are compelled to try by Paul’s admonition,
“If Christ is not raised, then our faith is in vain.”  (I Cor. 15:14)
One factor in the story must be
recognized: this is a tale of a bodily resurrection, not a “spiritual” one. The
risen one takes pains to force people to touch his wounds and so dispel the
notion of an ectoplasmic appearance. Whatever the implications, they are
physical, this worldly. The second factor is that stories of dying and rising
gods (or superheroes) were widespread throughout the Ancient Near East and
ancient Greece. 
So what unique implications can
we draw from the story that are important today? Another way to ask it is
“Where today do we experience death and resurrection?”
Both occur at the individual, natural,
and corporate levels. A word about each: Lately I have “died” when the classes
I have taught for 15 years were cancelled; I was “raised” when the University
called on me for 3 new classes. The slow and painful death of a dear aunt was
followed by a celebration honoring her life that brought back the wonder of her
artistry and love. These may seem trivial examples but dramatize the dynamics
in the story: Death/Resurrection happens to us all.
In nature, “Resurrection” has
long been a metaphor for the return of plant life in the Spring, at least in
the Northern hemisphere. And certainly, the emergence of leaves on barren
trees, of green in brown fields, and flowers from “dead” plants seem quite
miraculous.
At the corporate level, the death
and dying dynamic seems much more obvious that does resurrection. Many of our
hopes and dreams died with the November election. The horrors and complexity of
the Middle East conflicts and the appearance of global warming both represent a
death to life as we have known it. What resurrection will look like remains to
be seen. 
Numerous efforts taken for
environmental protection certainly mark an awakening to the need for change,
but are faint heralds of a resurrected life. Numerous conferences aimed at
achieving some sort of resolution of Middle East conflicts so far remain
fruitless. As the story goes, it’s God who does the raising, not us. And when
it occurs, it’s far beyond our expectations.  As I have said elsewhere, “Humankind has unimaginable
capacities to screw things up; yet Mystery generates unaccountable wonders out
of our messes.” (Theology of Surprise,
p. 39) Our current situation brings to
mind a sermon that we heard in the Philippines during the last days of Marcos.
It was entitled “It feels like Friday, but Sunday is A-Coming!”
Whether we’re enmeshed in the
death or the resurrection part of the dynamic, both are operative. That’s what
Easter celebrates.

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