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From: Susan Fertig via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net><br>
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<div>It can't be a void if it is filled. It is filled with the very real presence of God, tangible even now in this occasional foretaste of the hereafter.Have you not sometimes had a glimpse?</div>
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<div>Happy Easter to you as well! I was wondering how you would describe the dimension you speak of? I happen to agree with you, but I use the term Void, which is the eternal, existing along side the time/space experience. The Other World in the midst
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Thank you for the reflections and the reminiscences. I must admit I am wrestling some this week and still at Easter morn. We get netflix dvds sent to us and last night, as we paused from getting ready for the potluck we are hosting, we watched the dvd we
got in the mail. Martin Scorceses SILENCE, about Jesuit priests on mission in Japan in the 1600's. Lots of persecutions, apostasy as well.</div>
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All this for the metaphor of death and rebirth? Hmmmm. I read over the christ lecture transcribed in Bending History as well as the bits of the gospels. Deepened the wrestling. All complicated by a 10 year old grandson who has decided to be baptized today.
Have to stop here and go hide easter eggs . . .</div>
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I vividly remember Easter mornings in the OKC RH with Bill & Marianna Bailey. First of all, Bill Bailey's resonating wake-up accompanied by the gong. Barb Garrison & I played the Hallelujah Chorus on the baby grand. Breakfast included a huge slab of salmon.
Oh my goodness -- If life had caused you to need some patching up, the best prescription would be 4 years in the OKC RH with Bill & Marianna. Thank you for those experiences, Marianna!<br>
All the best,<br>
Nancy Trask<br>
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To: Frank Knutson <<a style="color:purple; text-decoration:underline" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:f.knutson@earthlink.net">f.knutson@earthlink.net</a>>, Order Ecumenical Community <<a style="color:purple; text-decoration:underline" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
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of the Easter story for us is difficult since times and world-views have<br>
changed. We find it difficult even to grasp what it meant for those who first<br>
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recognized: this is a tale of a bodily resurrection, not a “spiritual” one. The<br>
risen one takes pains to force people to touch his wounds and so dispel the<br>
notion of an ectoplasmic appearance. Whatever the implications, they are<br>
physical, this worldly. The second factor is that stories of dying and rising<br>
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<span style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:'Hobo Std',sans-serif">Both occur at the individual, natural,<br>
and corporate levels. A word about each: Lately I have “died” when the classes<br>
I have taught for 15 years were cancelled; I was “raised” when the University<br>
called on me for 3 new classes. The slow and painful death of a dear aunt was<br>
followed by a celebration honoring her life that brought back the wonder of her<br>
artistry and love. These may seem trivial examples but dramatize the dynamics<br>
in the story: Death/Resurrection happens to us all.</span></div>
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<span style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:'Hobo Std',sans-serif">In nature, “Resurrection” has<br>
long been a metaphor for the return of plant life in the Spring, at least in<br>
the Northern hemisphere. And certainly, the emergence of leaves on barren<br>
trees, of green in brown fields, and flowers from “dead” plants seem quite<br>
miraculous.</span></div>
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<span style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:'Hobo Std',sans-serif">At the corporate level, the death<br>
and dying dynamic seems much more obvious that does resurrection. Many of our<br>
hopes and dreams died with the November election. The horrors and complexity of<br>
the Middle East conflicts and the appearance of global warming both represent a<br>
death to life as we have known it. What resurrection will look like remains to<br>
be seen.<span class="aolmail_Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></div>
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<span style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:'Hobo Std',sans-serif">Numerous efforts taken for<br>
environmental protection certainly mark an awakening to the need for change,<br>
but are faint heralds of a resurrected life. Numerous conferences aimed at<br>
achieving some sort of resolution of Middle East conflicts so far remain<br>
fruitless. As the story goes, it’s God who does the raising, not us. And when<br>
it occurs, it’s far beyond our expectations. As I have said elsewhere, “Humankind has unimaginable<br>
capacities to screw things up; yet Mystery generates unaccountable wonders out<br>
of our messes.” (</span><em><b><u><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:'Hobo Std',sans-serif">Theology of Surprise</span></u></b></em><span style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:'Hobo Std',sans-serif">,<br>
</span><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:'Hobo Std',sans-serif">p. 39</span><span style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:'Hobo Std',sans-serif">) Our current situation brings to<br>
mind a sermon that we heard in the Philippines during the last days of Marcos.<br>
It was entitled “It feels like Friday, but Sunday is A-Coming!”</span></div>
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<span style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:'Hobo Std',sans-serif">Whether we’re enmeshed in the<br>
death or the resurrection part of the dynamic, both are operative. That’s what<br>
Easter celebrates.</span></div>
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