[Oe List ...] [Dialogue] death of Charles Moore

[Del Morril via OE]

Thanks for this meaningful response, Jack, for it does speak to the other
side of things, which is to truly appreciate the being and works of this
colleague. I most certainly do honor what Charles has given to the world in
the past, and what his life has meant o those who've known him.

I guess I was simply so shocked at the way he chose to do this, especially
not letting his family know of his plans. This is one of the reasons I felt
it was totally unfair of him to choose this way out life.  I appreciate his
life, but still consider his act one of a totally disillusioned man, rather
than an act of social conscience.  But, as usual, that is my opinion.

I am sure that Charles' hope included that his death would, indeed,
stimulate dialogue of one kind or another, not only by us, but by all who
saw and heard about it.

Del

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-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Gilles [mailto:jackcgilles at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 8:39 AM
To: Del Morril
Cc: Order Ecumenical
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] death of Charles Moore

Del,

For many of us we are his family, still. It is not for us to judge his act
nor its sanity. That is between he and the Mystery, which I am sure he was
deeply aware of. It sounds insane and a waste to most, I'm sure. I certainly
wouldn't have done it. But that is an opinion and we will never know the
deeps of his soul or the call he felt. Our task is to celebrate his
existence, his place in the galaxy of the Order and pray for his immediate
family that they may be comforted.  

In one sense all our deaths are absurd. We were born to be free and act in
forgiveness. I take him at his word and deed. We die our own deaths or we
allow death to decide for us. As I said, his choice is not my choice, but he
certainly understood the call to act on behalf of all. 

The last time I saw Charles was at the 2000 Order Gathering in Vail. He
spoke and it was not received well and for that I am sorry. He was a beloved
man, with so many gifts and so much anguish. May he be at home in the
ultimate Mystery. I shall miss him and am grateful for having him shape, as
so many hundreds did, my life and direction.

Grace & Peace,

Jack

On Jul 3, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Del Morril via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
wrote:

> 
> Can you imagine what this act has done to his family?!  He may think it
was
> sacrificial, but I think, like any open suicide for any reason, it is
> totally self-serving, regardless of his philosophy! An insane
demonstration,
> from my perspective, and yet, in some ways, understandable. I just don't
> think it will make a bit of difference in changing the social conscience.
> That's the truly sad part of this act.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dialogue [mailto:dialogue-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of
> George Holcombe via Dialogue
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 12:19 AM
> To: ICA/OE List Serves; ICA/OE List Serves
> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] death of Charles Moore
> 
> Our colleague Charles immolated himself June 23, see article at 
>
http://www.umc.org/news-and-media/retired-pastor-saw-destiny-in-self-immolat
> ion
> 
> Memorial service will be held  July 12 at Faith Presbyterian Church in
> Austin.
> 
> George Holcombe
> 14900 Yellowleaf Tr.
> Austin, TX 78728
> Mobile 512/252-2756
> 
> "...we have the choice: we can gratefully cultivate the relationships that
> make us part of a vast network, or we can take them for granted and allow
> them to wither and die."  Brother David Steindl-Rast, Deeper than Words
> 
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