[Oe List ...] A good reflection on Romney

Del Morril delhmor at wamail.net
Tue Sep 18 16:17:22 PDT 2012


thank you, thank you George!!!

 

 

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From: oe-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net
[mailto:oe-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of George Holcombe
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 1:15 PM
To: Order Ecumenical Community
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] A good reflection on Romney

 

I'm sorry that this conversation has fallen to such a level.  The mention of
Kool Aid, which references the killing of people in the Jones Town tragedy,
is saddening to me.  And the idea we came close to becoming a cult as well.
We still are an expression of movemental force.  Of course Lingo has said
there are as many versions of the Order as there are participants; take that
as you may.

 

My experience of this list serve is that of trans-establishment.  It is not
about a balance of political statements, establisment vs. dis-establishment
views or prejudicial statements, but a wrestling with the future from our
various perspectives.  This is a very different type of discussion from the
talking heads on U.S. media.  It has grown out of our experience.  We are
all not the same, but we seek respectful dialogue and we work pretty hard to
stick to the facts as best we can grasp them.  Hopefully we can resume that
level of discussion.  As a participant in a number of list serves and a
manager of one, I have found this one to be very good. Herman has brought us
a lot of good material to struggle with and I look forward to that to
continue.  

 

Most of the time I have noticed that when someone disagrees with another, we
state what we see to be the case rather than to attack the other.  Our world
is changing very rapidly, practicing respectful dialogue might be a good
practice for the future.

 

 

George Holcombe
14900 Yellowleaf Tr.
Austin, TX 78728
Mobile 512/252-2756
geowanda at earthlink.net

 

Hope appeareth, but it is not your Hope—you do not have anything to do with
it. It just appeareth. It comes as a stranger, as an alien—it just
appeareth! You do not even know why you hope. How in the world could you
hope when there is absolutely nothing to justify any hope?    ~Joseph W.
Mathews

 

 

 

On Sep 18, 2012, at 11:04 AM, HERMAN GREENE <hfgreene at mindspring.com> wrote:





I just thought it was a good refection

 

 

 

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Susan Fertig <susan at gmdtech.com> wrote:

Just for the record, not everyone on this listserv has drunk your KoolAid,
and I’m offended by your language in the message below and the one that
succeeds it.

 

Susan

 

From: oe-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net
[mailto:oe-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of Herman Greene
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 10:21 AM
To: 'Order Ecumenical Community'
Subject: [Oe List ...] A good reflection on Romney

 


 <http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/09/18/the_real_romney.html> The
Real Romney


 
<http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/09/real-romney-is-a-sneering-plutocrat.ht
ml> Jonathan Chait says the
<http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/09/17/romney_explains_obama_voters.h
tml> hidden camera video that went viral yesterday exposes Mitt Romney "as a
far more sinister character than I had imagined. Here is the sneering
plutocrat, fully in thrall to a series of pernicious myths that are at the
heart of the mania that has seized his party. He believes that market
incomes in the United States are a perfect reflection of merit. Far from
seeing his own privileged upbringing as the private-school educated son of
an auto executive-turned-governor as an obvious refutation of that belief,
Romney cites his own life, preposterously, as a confirmation of it..." 

"The revelations in this video come to me as a genuine shock. I have never
hated Romney. I presumed his ideological makeover since he set out to run
for president was largely phony, even if he was now committed to carry
through with it, and to whatever extent he'd come to believe his own lines,
he was oblivious or naïve about the damage he would inflict upon the poor,
sick, and vulnerable. It seems unavoidable now to conclude that Romney's
embrace of Paul Ryanism is born of actual contempt for the looters and
moochers, a class war on behalf of his own class."

 

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