[Oe List ...] [Dialogue] What is the right question these days?

Mon Jul 2 17:45:41 PDT 2012

this may be the moment

PLEASE REINSTATE STUART HAMPTON (shampton at hoovers.com) on to both lists.  He 
seems to have "fallen off" some time ago and I have been forwarding things.  

Enough, all ready, its too good to miss and I am not ready to edit.

Good stuff, folks!

mary hampton

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From: Ken Gillgren <kgillgren at igc.org>
To: dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net; oe at lists.wedgeblade.net
Sent: Mon, July 2, 2012 3:48:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] What is the right question these days?

Wow, this has been an incredible conversation, with echoes that reach back to my 
First Great Awakening, when three questions were posed: Who am I? What do I? How 
be I? followed by intensive, continuous bottom-dropping-out experiences that 
made what I thought was my concrete life question at the time (conscientious 
objection or ministerial vocation) seem, if not trivial, then a little beside 
the point of a deeper issue.

And somehow I ended up in the Order during that odd, in-between moment when the 
Quest for the Historical Jesus, Luke and Psalm conversations, scrubbing grave 
plots, The Way of the Pilgrim, The Journey to the East (dang, I knew I shouldn't 
have given up on playing the violin!), fasting and canonical hours (I was 
Methodist, for god's sake!), somehow made perfect sense alongside Global 
Research Assemblies (social process triangles to the ninth level) and Councils 
with people rising up to be accountable for Yellow Knife, among other far 
corners I never expected to see (but ultimately came pretty close).

And of course, the fine wind, a wedgeblade inserted into time, with preschool 
children living in the Universe and Dancing to Life (or Bending History, which 
seemed somehow logically and satisfyingly interchangeable with Dancing to Life). 
And "we are the music makers, we are the builders of dreams; we are the 
earthbuilders and movers it seems" With our own somewhat stilted mythologies 
around the Bureaucratic Cog (FIRE the one who fails), the Underground 
Revolutionary (SHOOT the one who fails), and the Trans-establishment Self 
(RECONSTRUCT THE CONTEXT around the one who fails).

And strangely, the answer that now comes to my mind in response to why I'm here, 
what I'm doing, and how I'm being is all "for the greater glory of G-O-D," and 
this from someone who long ago left behind Sunday services and any formal 
religious practice, and with full consciousness of all the political, economic, 
and cultural baggage this phrase entails. At the same time, I've witnessed how 
this language still animates and inspires profound community service in the most 
impossible situations (think: African American churches in, for example, Rainier 
Beach).

The Journey is the context, with its quest for an ever-widening consciousness 
and participation in Wholeness. The Kingdom has always arrived and is always 
coming in power (honest, this unnerves me to throw around this language willy 
nilly, but I somehow blame RS-I for the fact that it makes any sense to me at 
any level).

So whatever the question or calling that quickens the current action of my soul, 
lies a deeper affiliation with a Wholeness (beyond my imagining) that is being 
birthed and against an illusory fragmentation (around ego, tribe, or ideology) 
which may come clothed in a reasonable justification or accommodation for 
"what's possible."

More about the flow than prematurely measured outcomes, more about the dance 
than bending history.

Oops, now this is feeling more like the Earthrise witness that I've been meaning 
to offer, although still far short of what I feel I want to say.

I am so profoundly grateful to have stood at the side of a people whose very 
presence, for a moment in time (that continues to this day), interrupts 
historical forces at the most personal level and invites "no one special" to an 
unexpected calling (preschool teacher, healthcare worker, fund raiser, Town 
Meeting orchestrator, business facilitator, yes, even mayor of the city of 
Indiahoma) as a pivot point for an emerging Wholeness, already present and 
coming in power.

Ok, I kind of got wound up there; what was the question again?

Thanks to all of you for all you have been and done, for all you continue to be 
and do, until "the end of Time."

Ken Gillgren
Milwaukee Metro, Amarillo, Indiahoma, Minto, Selawik Spud, Anchorage, Medan, 
Seoul, Cheong Ju, Tokyo, Seattle.

On 7/2/2012 11:32 AM, John Cock wrote:
> I appreciate what you've said, Wayne.
> 
> My take:
> If it does not have something like "on behalf of a transformed Earth
> community" in the statement,
> it is the WRONG right question, moral issue, or vocation.
> 
> John
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:dialogue-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Nelson
> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 12:19 PM
> To: Colleague Dialogue
> Subject: [Dialogue] What is the right question these days?
> 
> 
> I am wondering what are the pivotal moral issues of our moment?
> 
> I think there are likely to be several. Of course there are many, many but
> there are probably some major ones.
> 
> To reduce it to a single one makes it too abstract and denies the obvious
> complexity.
> 
> We all have to name 'the moral issue of our time.'  There's not likely to be
> one for everyone. It's a job we all have to do.
> 
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