[Dialogue] [Oe List ...] A Path Forward conversation

Wed Mar 19 22:14:14 PDT 2025

OK, I'm not  able to fully participate right now, but take a look at the Constellation Model for Governance, a Canadian innovation that captured the imagination of the neighborhood coalition I worked for over about 15 years although we did not quite push it through. It does provide one potential framework for mobilizing diverse networks of services and organizations across diffferent levels. Maybe still worth a look:

https://socialinnovation.org/about/innovations-publications/constellation-model-of-governance/

To a certain extent, the ICA project teams played a "secretariat" role across multiple levels of networks, from stakes to city to state to nation to international. Just thinkin...

Thanks with the deepest respect and appreciation for all of you.;;

Ken Gillgren

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On 3/18/2025 12:59:54 PM, James Wiegel via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Your earlier post about the scope of the "movement of movements" is quite helpful in imaging what is going on.  I think what Bill Parker is wrestling with is how to catalyze something more across these fronts -- his intuition is to find a way to connect them across their various missions and campaigns with a.  some personal contact, b. some focus on more local geography, and c.  some experiential sense of the human suffering of folks in their communities -- particularly the awesome sense of isolation/aloneness so present in our world -- who do I talk to?

I am thinking that the "movement of movements" needs somehow to be expanded to include the movements who are fighting more to keep things as they are --  I don't really know -- my neighbor took down the trump flag he had hoisted below the US flag . . . and replaced it with a confederate flag.  Hmm

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On Sunday, March 16, 2025 at 06:53:08 AM MST, Robertson Work <warkers at msn.com> wrote:

Good to hear from you, Jim. It was wonderful being with dear colleagues some of whom I have not seen for many, many years. 

Yes, there is much to cry about these days. And also smile and laugh about. And most of all to be grateful for - the gifts of life, awareness, and love. 

How can the paradigm of a movement of movements help in mobilizing energy to create a more compassionate, ecologically sound world? 

Robertson Work
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From: James Wiegel <jfwiegel at yahoo.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2025 9:32 AM

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Cc: Robertson Work <warkers at msn.com>; Sister Judy Wiegel <juneweaver2018 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Dialogue] [Oe List ...] A Path Forward conversation

Thank you, Rob.  For an old guy you are really good!  Seems to me weeping is a good response we should do more of.  I can remember from time to time tears appearing in my Grandmother's eyes.

When we were living at the ICA centre in Brussels, Robert Gilman came to visit.  He was the founder and editor of In Context magazine which became YES! Later.  We were talking in our room of all the creative (I called them "alternative" approaches) at large on the planet and how exciting they all were and how much I appreciated In Context for the reporting it was doing of these alternatives.  

"No, no," Robert said.  "We are not interested in alternatives.  We are spelling out and highlighting the NEW MAINSTREAM."  "Like Voluntary Simplicity," I said.  "More like voluntary complexity" He replied.

In reading your work on MOM, I found myself wanting to edit out "can" and replace the verb with "is" . . .

Jim Wiegel
“We are all time travelers journeying into the future. But let us make that future a place we want to visit. “       Stephen Hawking

On Mar 15, 2025, at 8:13 PM, Robertson Work via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:

Dear Path Forward colleagues,

Here is something I wrote on the movement of movements that may be helpful:  https://robertsonwork.substack.com/p/the-movement-of-movements-mom-dancing [https://robertsonwork.substack.com/p/the-movement-of-movements-mom-dancing]

Take care,

Rob

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From: Dialogue <dialogue-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net> on behalf of Don Bushman via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2025 8:04 PM
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A Path Forward Conversation Saturday 15 March 4 pm Eastern 1 pm Pacific

This Saturday Sunny Walker will be facilitating a conversation addressing the question
"What role do shared narratives and cultural continuity play in engagement?"
 as it becomes clearer that collapse i.e. withdrawal, does not answer the call to engage in doing the necessary deed of addressing the innocent suffering in our moment.

Please join us in the zoom room found at the zoom is of 630 013 695 and the password is 352922.

Don Bushman
828-292-9696

On Sat, Feb 22, 2025 at 5:12 PM Isobel and Jim Bishop via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net [mailto:dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net]> wrote:
Dear Bill,

I’m praying for your gathering by Zoom- not sure of the time difference for me here in Australia, however thank you for your

responsible action on behalf of…

I am also unsure if my first email arrived in  your inbox- so here is this note. 

Please put me on the discussion of your insights as they are formed.

Resilience and love for humankind in a new way will shine though.

Thank you to Randy and Dharma for shining the' horrid light 'John Wesley spoke about-  the 'healing light' will come in God’s

Economy of time.

With love in Jesus the Christ,

Isobel

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> On 23 Feb 2025, at 6:53 am, Isobel and Jim via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe at lists.wedgeblade.net]> wrote:
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> Hello Bill,
> Thank you.
> I add my name to Wanda.
> I experience here in my country of origin a similar shaking of the foundations as many have described in your nation and Charlie Angus in Canada. 
> Sartre said ‘where one country is in chains we are all in chains’
> ( paraphrase).
> Please include my name in any findings:-
> JWM used to say:
> Big think,….act…. Deep resolve.
> Jim Weigel or others will remember the correct words..
> ‘These are the times, and  we are the people’.   
> Grace and peace to you Bill, and to  all,
> Hooray for Zoom 👍😊<c159f9e4-be54-4441-8145-09147177112c.png>
> Isobel Bishop
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> Isobel Bishop
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>> On 23 Feb 2025, at 4:04 am, Holcombe Wanda via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe at lists.wedgeblade.net]> wrote:
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>> Bill,
>> I can’t join you today because I’m already on a zoom call with other ICA women regarding Women’s Spirit Reflections which also gathers once or twice a year.
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>> Please keep me on your list to participate and if you have any notes to share from this group today, please let me know. Thank you for getting us. And share our thoughts on the
>> future.
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>> Grace & Peace
>> Wanda Holcombe
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>>> On Feb 22, 2025, at 9:12 AM, Bill Parker via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe at lists.wedgeblade.net]> wrote:
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>>> I’d like to invite you to a conversation about a path forward in light of what is happening in the human community today. It will be today at 3:00pm US central time on Zoom. The zoom id is 630 013 695 and the password is 352922. I have sent zoom invites but am not certain if they will reach you. Join if you can
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