[Dialogue] Joe Mathews Dissertation on John Wesley

Tue May 14 12:04:22 PDT 2019

In my youth (1965) on the West Side, I was assigned to clean the offices on
the first floor of Admin Building.  I got in trouble because I read the
dissertation instead of vacuuming.   We were assigned minutes and had to
sit in a chair doing nothing while an adult watched up.

Paula

On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 12:45 PM W. J. via Dialogue <
dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:

> Yes, the copy Marge handed to me at the time of Betty's celebration was in
> that same gray box! Marge was VERY proud of this artifact and very watchful
> to make sure it didn't disappear (into some colleague's briefcase!).
> It was likely the only copy in the Archives, and to me it looked exactly
> like an original typescript.
> That means that our dear Betty had not sent it through a copier and left
> the copier version in the files.
> It also suggests that for some reason, Joe's dissertation is probably not
> in the JWM research collection in the basement of the library of Wesley
> Theological Seminary.
> So I would suggest that the Archives honchos might contact the Wesley
> librarian to insure that this document is available in the collection.
> Maybe some PhD student someday will write a dissertation on Mathews'
> dissertation and what happened to it at various times and places!
> After writing this I read Nancy's and Beret's comments. So maybe some
> version of the Wesley dissertation is in the basement at Wesley.
> There's been a huge faculty/staff turnover @ Wesley with retirements, etc.
> So there are very likely HUGE memory gaps, not to mention funding gaps,
> that I predict would result in ZERO archival work happening in their
> basement archives.
> At least there would be some kind of historical record of the acquisition.
> But it would be interesting to call up the research librarian and see what
> he or she says.
> Or maybe M. George Walters is up on this question.
> Marshall
>
> On Tuesday, May 14, 2019, 5:07:04 AM EDT, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>
>
> There is a memory gap in Archive Collection history between when Marshall
> saw the copy of JWM’s dissertation at Betty Pesek’s Memorial and when it
> was scanned by Mark in April and links created by Wendell. There are likely
> others who have bits and pieces of the history. And there are 150 file
> cabinets in the basement Archives room that may have more information.
>
> Although I ‘found’ the transcript in a gray box tucked away on top of the
> file cabinets after many cabinets had been moved and many files filed this
> past year, I don’t have a history to go with the finding. I am simply
> pleased that it will soon be accessible to those interested on the Archives
> Website.
>
> Peace, Karen
>
>
>
> On May 13, 2019, at 8:51 PM, W. J. via Dialogue <
> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>
> I actually saw and touched (!) the typescript copy Marge had in the
> Archives at the time of Betty Pesek's memorial service, so I can vouch for
> the fact that there were zero burn marks on it. And no hint of smoke.
> As far as I could tell, that copy was not fake either. Maybe we could dust
> it for Joe's fingerprints. Or, far more likely, Lyn's.
> And there was no indication that what we have now was just a preliminary
> draft.
> As some of us know, there WAS a fire in the Carriage House at the original
> location of the Evanston Institute of Ecumenical Studies. And some stuff in
> storage got burned. Apparently not this copy.
> But maybe the story about being lost in a fire dates back to Joe's Austin
> days. Or before that in Dallas or Rochester. I wouldn't put it past him to
> wink and say, in effect, 'That's dead history.'
> Or possibly Joe and Lyn decided NOT to submit this revised/final draft
> after his dissertation committee rejected his earlier version.
> That's SO like him to say, 'I'm not gonna jump through that hoop again!'
> and risk another rejection. He WAS stubborn that way. And very proud of his
> research and writing and masterful teaching.
> So I would say, 'Good on ya, Joe. Got more important fish to fry!'
> I'm curious about what inspired the Archives team to 'resurrect' it in
> digital form.
> Comments?
> Marshall
>
> On Monday, May 13, 2019, 8:51:56 PM EDT, Mari Crocker via Dialogue <
> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>
>
> Do we have any insight re: HRN’s rejection of JWM’s dissertation?  Were
> there any notes from his dissertation committee?  One prevailing story over
> many early years was that the text had been accidentally burned.  Could you
> share how you accessed this copy?
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Dr. Marilyn R. Crocker
>
> On May 2, 2019, at 9:10 PM, Wendell Refior via Dialogue <
> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>
> Colleagues -
> We now have a digital copy of JWM's Dissertation on Wesley.
> A Study of John Wesley, turned in and rejected by Niebuhr and never
> rewritten or approved.
> Wendell Refior
> for the ICA Global Archives
>
> Chapter 1: The Human Constitution
> https://wedgeblade.net/files/archives_assets/21219.pdf
> Chapter 2: The Life of Love
> https://wedgeblade.net/files/archives_assets/21220.pdf
> Chapter 3: The Knowledge of Faith
> https://wedgeblade.net/files/archives_assets/21221.pdf
> Conclusion: Concluding Remarks
> https://wedgeblade.net/files/archives_assets/21222.pdf
>
>
> --
> Thanks until later. "To believe what is true for you in your private heart
> is true for <everyone> -- that is genius." - Emerson in "Self-Reliance"
> Wendell
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Paula

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