[Dialogue] [Oe List ...] Breakfast News Conversations...

Frank Knutson via Dialogue dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
Tue Aug 25 10:59:51 PDT 2015


Enclosed: THE LIBERAL HERESY  \
I think it was given by John Epps or maybe Gene Marshall????


"What appears to be a breaking down of civilization 
may well be simply the breaking up of old forms by life itself." 
    ~ Joyce Carol Oates
❤ Frank       

> On Aug 25, 2015, at 8:39 AM, Rod Rippel via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> 
> Fascists and dictators (and now just about everyone) have long understood that
> deviant behavior is encouraged by the fact that the media give it coverage.
> For example it used to be, "Don't write about suicide" because the mere
> mention of suicide might inspire someone to commit suicide in the next few days.
> Now we are flooded with all kinds of deviant inspiration.  We live in a time of
> internet, Facebook, Twitter and adultery matchup-services.
> Like the phrase sometimes used in the RS-1 'Freedom Lecture,'  "All Is Known,"
> literally!  The inundation of 'information' has either swamped us with stress and
> physical reaction or prompted a new level of defensive withdrawal from engaging.
> Scriptural wisdom and "Deciding" goes by the board!
> -----Original Message----- From: steve har via OE
> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 6:06 AM
> To: oe at lists.wedgeblade.net ; Order Ecumenical ICA-USA
> Subject: [Oe List ...] Breakfast News Conversations...
> 
> Also called scripture/news conversations
> 
> You remember them right?
> random bits of recalled news and then a piece of scriptural wisdom
> what to do about it?
> 
> These days news like trying to "drink from a fire hose"
> My experience now living in the USfA now rather than Costa Rica and
> listening to USA media is curious.
> 
> Feels to me like a case of news culture ADHD where nothing is
> connected to anything except by more and more crisis news events, more
> passionate & positional thinking more economic political and cultural
> and more and more "news journalists" driving to their bank on the
> stream of news.
> 
> My friend Jack Gilles, if I quote him right, says ORID conversations
> no longer have a "D" now because it it is all interpretation, everyone
> has an opinion, everyone is a spectator stuck in the stands watching
> an unplayable game.
> 
> Now in conversations  is no "D" in ORID, no one knows how to Decide or what Do.
> "D" stands for Dumpster or "Don't decide" or "Despair" or just "Done".
> 
> Joe Mathews had a paper, I believe,  which he  called the liberal
> heresy - aybe it was the conservative heresy or the reactionary
> heresy.
> He used some fancy theological terminology like "the  immediacy of the
> eschaton" which I never did understand,exactly.
> Anyone remember this paper?
> 
> Wondering where IS the scripture part, the wisdom part of the
> breakfast news conversation?
> 
> The Christian Science Monitor says THEY are doing two things...As days
> and weeks pass, the media move on to new stories, often neglecting to
> tell the “what’s possible?” stories about how the people and
> communities affected by these tragedies are coping and what they’re
> learning. We hear these types of stories on one-year anniversaries,
> but they’re not an ongoing part of the media’s coverage the way that
> the “what happened?” stories are. A growing body of research is
> confirming what many have long suspected — that a steady diet of
> trauma and disaster triggers stress, fear and trauma in those
> consuming the stories.
> 
> What if the news media covered stories of recovery and resilience as
> much as they cover stories about devastation and despair?
> http://ivoh.org/restorativenarrative/
> 
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Steve
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